timewave zero / 2012 : the falacy , page 1

ok - as " time wave zero " seems to be the latest ` big stir ` in the 2012 cult - it is prudent to have a closer look at just how 2012 and TWZ became intertwined

the answer ?

its a arbitrary " correlation " decided on a whim by the creators of the ` program ` -

read the creators own admission here

the time wave is zero at only one point , when x=0 . for x> 0 the value of the wave is positive , the zero point is the point in time CHOSEN to correspond to the value zero for x , the usual point used is 6 am on December 21st 2012 ( known as the zero date ) thus the time wave has a positive value for all points prior to the zero date , is zero only at the zero point and is undefined after the zero point

rather than being the ` end point ` 2012 is actually the START of the TWZ process

so its utter dishonesty to set a capricious start date - for a sequence that infact works back wards

then turn around and claim that it actually " runs " forwards - and that there is some significance to the 2012 ` end point `

the math of TWZ is actually quite revealing once you peer past the hype –

the simple summary is that you start with a series of numbers – and run them through a repetitive equation

that’s it – all there is to it

the resultant graph looks pretty and has recurring patterns – but they mean nothing , because its simply a recursive sequence – its INTENDED TO BE THAT WAY – USING THE SAME NUMBERS AND SAME EQUATRION – YOU CANNOT GET ANYTHING ELSE

even the ` starting data ` is arbitrary – you could use ANY set of numbers – and you would get a similar graph – from the same equations and yes it would have recurring patterns too and if you set the y axis of the graph to an arbitrary calendar – it produces ` resonances ` if you cherry pick events

and all ` correlations ` of events are simply forced fit patter finding – any even that ` matches ` a date is used – however vague or tenuous the ` connection `

and anything that doesn’t match is ignored

the entire ` science ` of it is UTTER TWADDLE – they started off with a conclusion , and manufactured the data to ` prove ` the claim true .

and now there is thread after thread on ATS

reply to post by ignorant_ape

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Just wait until Evasius gets here...

He will set you straight

*I think he knows more about the timewave program than anyone else on ATS.

It is based on the King Wen sequence of the i-ching - From China.

Edit: Who cares what McKenna's timewave or the ancient Chinese say...

We all know who is coming back on 2012:





[edit on 17-6-2009 by Exuberant1]

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Well, that settles it then. If Jesus is coming back in 2012 I guess I don't have to worry about anything!

Guess we can shut this thread now, we know what's going to happen, no sense in wasting time debating around the issue.



[edit on 17-6-2009 by Mindmelding]

reply to post by ignorant_ape

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In addition to the arbitrary end date selected, I've wondered how this correlates to Earth.

Specifically, if the same math works anywhere in our universe (or even the Milky way), does that mean that all places in the Universe or our galaxy follow the graphs of Timewave Zero?

People try to map Earth events to the changes in the graphs, but what about planetary, solar systems, and galaxies?

delius

reply to post by Exuberant1

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ok - first off " we do not all know who is coming back in 2012 " i am an atheist

do YOU " know " that jesus will return in 2012 - if so please explain how , and also attempt to resolve how this alledged knolwledge directly contradicts biblical teaching that ` none shall know the date or time `

second - why are you even here - threatening that ` evasius will set me straight ` do you not have any opinion of your own on the matter ??

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reply to post by stereovoyaged

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sigh , 2 more " waiting for evasius " to tell them what to think

dont either of you have the ability to think for yourselves ???????????

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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reply to post by stereovoyaged

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sigh , 2 more " waiting for evasius " to tell them what to think

dont either of you have the ability to think for yourselves ???????????

Hey settle down, it's not that we cant think for ourselves, it's because we know that Evasius is going to be all over this, it should be an interesting show. I think you're thinking enough for all of us anyway, afterall, you've already assumed we cant think for ourselves.

If I remember correctly, and I may be wrong, the reason that date was selected was partly because of the Mayan Calendar and also because when that date eas selected, the timewave fitted into place, in other words - it peaked where it should have peaked and dipped where it should have dipped almost perfectly.

Do you have any more nasty things to say about us or Evasius, oh englightened one ?

reply to post by Novise

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You clearly dont fully understand the program, it's not about choosing where to put zero's, it's program designed to calculate and decipher the novelty theory, obviously it's much more complex than that but the algorithms do the plotting, the only zero was added as a reference date for the program was the mayan calendar end date. And Terence saw it fitting to use that date among other reasons as I stated previously.

reply to post by ignorant_ape

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My thoughts on time wave zero are open it might be genuine, it might be a fluke.

So going back to your OP

you could use ANY set of numbers – and you would get a similar graph – from the same equations and yes it would have recurring patterns too and if you set the y axis of the graph to an arbitrary calendar – it produces ` resonances ` if you cherry pick events

1. Why don't you pick some random numbers, you could even get people on this thread to pick numbers for you.
2. Create the graph, there are Java versions of it, so it wouldn't be too difficult to change.
3. Pick an end date
4. Match the graph to events.

This way you will able to prove something.

To get you started I choose the number 31.

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