Homosexual behaviour widespread in animals according to new study

its al to do with hormone's .. due too the rise of birthcontrol use mainly the birthcontrol pil there is a rising of the female hormone in the water around the world.
The western world many females are using the pil and when on this pill they are using the toilets use like normal and by peeing out the residu of this birthcontrol pil there is a rise of hormone's in the eco system because even if water is treated like its done now the hormones wil not be filtert out by these process its getting into the natural eco systems as the sewer water after cleaning is let out into rivers and oceans ect and it is reused .. this will lead to a growing and rising amount of these hormones in the eco system turning men more female like even homosexual and is causing females to grow breast at and earlier and earlier age.
10 to 15 years ago the breast size of minor like some one of 13 years old would be size A or less nowadays it is around cup size B almost C and also to growth of other things which would happen at a more early age like hair growth ect.
even if this is not looked at we have to filter this hormones out of the system because its not good for our survival..
Let me say it like this..
People and animals drinking treated clean water turning homosexual due too hormones is the least of the problem..
the female body uses only small amount of the stuff in a birth control pil and if those residus and left overs which the body doesnt absorb is getting in the eco system .. people who are not using it will get it in there body's in small doses but small doses over a long time will lead to the same effect people cannot get pregnant again .. It would lead to impotence and the loss of the ability to propagate.

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That is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my entire life!!! You friend get a star for that one!

Lets think about a few things before we defend or bash homosexuality. (which by the way the person you just bashed did not bash homosexuality just stated that he believes that it is not a behavior that should be promoted.).

In most places on this planet you would be sentenced to death for being homosexual no questions asked. In many of these places you are stoned to death. Many places torture you before they kill you.

Not too long ago in the United States you would be publicly humiliated if not killed for being homosexual.

In fact it was not till recently that you could call yourself gay publicly and not face social if not mortal repercussions.

Yes we have come a long way. I say gays shouldn't complain about their rights. They have as many rights as I do plus you can call yourself gay and have relations with the same sex without mortal consequences which is leaps and bounds imo.

Gays should not pretend they are the majority and should not be treated as such. Sure they should get their way every now and again but no more than any one else. We have more important things to worry about than if you are gay. Instead of fighting for gay rights (which gays already have a massive abundance of) maybe you should be trying to save the rain forest or stop toxic dumping? Perhaps get yourself in an activity that would be beneficial to the human race as a whole? Heck we will even let you be gay while you do it!

There are gay animals sure. There are also a vast majority of straight animals that work to reproduce the species. Putting one right next to the other is not right and saying that it is not genetically defective is plain wrong. The natural outcome for all species is to reproduce (or make more of themselves) being homosexual goes against the survival of the species therefore is unnatural imo. Bash all you want and see if I give a

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Hetrosexuality is normal, the procreation of the species, better than people who wouldnt.
Procreation is more natuaral than denying it. So you want the human race to die? Coz it will with homosexuality.

Is that normal? No!

Quite honestly it might be a good thing if the human race died out reading some posts. Homosexuality is normal regardless of how you have been brainwashed. It also means that homosexuals are much stronger mentally as you heteros seem to believe anything you are told....lol
Why would the race die out anyway? Little lesson...there's male homosexuals...there's female homosexuals....and there's turkey basters...perfect.

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They wouldnt make it past my AR-15 assault rifle.

Originally posted by Techsnow
If you do claim that gay sex is ok because animals do it then you must also say that is ok to do everything else that animals do.



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Well, we do don't we, because WE ARE ANIMALS TOO! So is it o.k. to do everything else that Homo sapiens sapiens does or just to pick and choose what is right for you?

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Black widow spiders kill their mate, monkeys eat their own feces...why dont you go do that and use the defense "animals do it" Not saying that people will lol.

[edit on 5-10-2009 by THE_PROFESSIONAL]

Biology 101 and a Half

XY sex-determination system

The XY sex-determination system is the sex-determination system found in humans, most other mammals, some insects (Drosophila) and some plants (Ginkgo). In this system, females have two of the same kind of sex chromosome (XX), and are called the homogametic sex. Males have two distinct sex chromosomes (XY), and are called the heterogametic sex.

The XY sex determination system was first described independently by Nettie Stevens and Edmund Beecher Wilson in 1905.

Mechanisms

Some species (including most mammals) have a gene or genes on the Y chromosome that determine maleness. In the case of humans, a single gene (SRY) on the Y chromosome acts as a signal to set the developmental pathway towards maleness.[1] Other mammals use several genes on the Y chromosome for that same purpose. Not all male-specific genes are located on the Y chromosome.

Other species (including most Drosophila species) use the presence of two X chromosomes to determine femaleness. One X chromosome gives putative maleness. The presence of Y chromosome genes is required for normal male development.

Humans, as well as some other organisms, can have a chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex, that is, XX males or XY females. See, for example, XX male syndrome and Androgen insensitivity syndrome.

In birds, females are the heterogametic sex, as females have one Z and one W chromosome (ZW) and can therefore produce two types of gametes (Z or W oocytes). By contrast, males are ZZ and can produce only one type of gamete (homogametic)—the Z-bearing sperm.

en.wikipedia.org...

So it all depends on the combination of genes... but it is natural selection... even if nature seems to be mixed up

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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Black widow spiders kill their mate, monkeys eat their own feces...why dont you go do that and use the defense "animals do it"

There are quite a few examples of the Human animal killing their mate, and of them eating faeces (coprophiles). While I do not condone or understand this personally, I can accept that humans do do these things. We are animals and we share many traits with many other animal forms.
Aftershave? Pheremones...because we've stuffed our nose and aren't, generally aware of our surroundings.

Just because someone says we aren't animals doesn't mean we aren't.
(and vice versa, yes I'm aware of that, but I believe we are animals and am backed up by good, quality Science in this regard).

My only problem with homosexuals are the ones that make 'being gay' their whole life. The ones where every part of their life, every conversation is about being gay.

To me that's a waste, fair enough, be homosexual, and be proud of it, but i don't want it shoved in my face 24/7, i'd rather to get know a person as a human being, their character, their interests, dislikes etc. Not be constantly told of what sexuality they are.

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Do you call corporophial a natural/normal behaviour or a psychiatric condition? The only reason homosexuality was removed from the DSM was because the head guy was gay.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by aorAki

 

Do you call corporophial a natural/normal behaviour or a psychiatric condition? The only reason homosexuality was removed from the DSM was because the head guy was gay.

But what CAN'T be defined as a mental disability really? We are mentally disabled if you think about it properly.

Homosexuality, in my opinion, is a problem in the brain, a chemical inbalance, but just as much as someone being great at maths, or someone with an amazing memory.

Noone has a 'perfect' brain, we are all different.

Animals do it so it's natural and ok.
I never heard so much tosh!
My dog eats cow #. Maybe I should try it...
So what if a person is born with psychotic or murderous tendencies. It's OK COS YOU WERE BORNE LIKE THAT.
Look here's the deal. I accept your were born with a skewed genetic tendency. And yes it is skewed, sorry.
I accept you have a right to love, to live your life as you see fit, so long as it doesn't harm others.
I accept that you should not be discriminated against.
But you can keep your ridiculous GAY PRIDE marches. Plus I reserve the right to feel that sex between men is wrong without being accused of homophobia.
And I am not in the least religious. I just feel that freedom of thought swings two ways.

Originally posted by unicorn1
Animals do it so it's natural and ok.
I never heard so much tosh!
My dog eats cow #. Maybe I should try it...
So what if a person is born with psychotic or murderous tendencies. It's OK COS YOU WERE BORNE LIKE THAT.
Look here's the deal. I accept your were born with a skewed genetic tendency. And yes it is skewed, sorry.
I accept you have a right to love, to live your life as you see fit, so long as it doesn't harm others.
I accept that you should not be discriminated against.
But you can keep your ridiculous GAY PRIDE marches. Plus I reserve the right to feel that sex between men is wrong without being accused of homophobia.
And I am not in the least religious. I just feel that freedom of thought swings two ways.

I'm not homosexual, I'm just saying that it is normal behaviour (that we have probably been biased against due to religious enforcement) and that we are animals so it isn't surprising that we share traits with animals. It's more normal than you will ever accept, by the sounds of it!

What's wrong with gay pride marches? Everyone else has a platform and puts their opinions/rights in your face, so why can't Homosexuals celebrate publically?

You do sound like a homophobe though, just in denial

I'm not homosexual, I'm just saying that it is normal behaviour (that we have probably been biased against due to religious enforcement) and that we are animals so it isn't surprising that we share traits with animals. It's more normal than you will ever accept, by the sounds of it!

What's wrong with gay pride marches? Everyone else has a platform and puts their opinions/rights in your face, so why can't Homosexuals celebrate publically?

You do sound like a homophobe though, just in denial

To me they are the same as the 'Black Music Awards'. If there was 'White Music Awards' there would be uproar.

There are no 'Straight' marches, and if there were i could bet it would be called 'homophobic marches' by some.

I have no problem with people being gay, like i said, but it annoys me if homosexuals use GAY as the main part of their character, 24/7.

IMO, Homosexuality isn't natural per se.

Natural is (naughty words coming up kids, don't giggle!) Penis into Vagina + Ejaculation = Baby, in very basic terms. That's what happens, that's what the sexual organs are primarily and naturally for.

What people actually do with them though is a different matter, and totally up them, i have no problem with that.

Originally posted by 0010110011101


They found that on the Hawaiian island of Oahu, almost a third of the Laysan albatross population is raised by pairs of two females because of the shortage of males. Through these 'lesbian' unions, Laysan albatross are flourishing. Their existence had been dwindling before the adaptation was noticed.

You've never heard of that Beavis and Butthead song...



[edit on 5-10-2009 by TheFaiThfulSkepTic]

Originally posted by MarkLuitzen
its al to do with hormone's .. due too the rise of birthcontrol use mainly the birthcontrol pil there is a rising of the female hormone in the water around the world.
The western world many females are using the pil and when on this pill they are using the toilets use like normal and by peeing out the residu of this birthcontrol pil there is a rise of hormone's in the eco system because even if water is treated like its done now the hormones wil not be filtert out by these process

10 to 15 years ago the breast size of minor like some one of 13 years old would be size A or less nowadays it is around cup size B almost C and also to growth of other things which would happen at a more early age like hair growth ect.

People and animals drinking treated clean water turning homosexual due too hormones is the least of the problem..
the female body uses only small amount of the stuff in a birth control pil and if those residus and left overs which the body doesnt absorb is getting in the eco system .. people who are not using it will get it in there body's in small doses but small doses over a long time will lead to the same effect people cannot get pregnant again .. It would lead to impotence and the loss of the ability to propagate.

Atleast this will decrease the population with the increase of homosexual relationships with no offspring

Dont mean to be rude, but this is not new. I recall watching a doco on this a good 15 years ago. Life reflects nature hey The comment earlier about it being natural and we have been brainwashed to think otherwise is so nail on the head. Today we are more concerned with others actions and judging them based on what society wants us to think and believe, we need to move away from that. Who cares if they love someone of the same sex, what is its doing to harm YOU..... also, it was the church that outlawed it and its the Church that is the biggest hypocrite when it comes to homosexuality....Put that in your pipe and smoke it

Originally posted by spellbound
I am tired of gays being targetted, criticised and ostracised, not to mention condemned to hell.

And it would be good if ATS was of the same mind. A while back I linked to an animated gif of two women kissing for use as my avatar (I am bisexual). There was nothing wrong with that image. Just a simple peck on the mouth. It wasn't pornographic or immodest in any way, but it didn't matter. I was told to remove it by the ATS staff.

ATS says they want to end expressions of bigotry and bias here. Deny ignorance they say, yet when they had the chance they could not muster the strength to deny the ignorance of those holier-than-thou's who took issue with my avatar.

Hey guys, i know this is off topic, but i want to applogise for some of my comments on this thread. I havent been asked to by the mods or anything. however after reading them you can probably tell i was a bit drunk lol, coz they made loads of sense!!

I know that is no excuse, so im sorry. I recieved some very bad news yesterday whch prompted a session with jd.

so note to self, no drinking whilst ATSing, and find a better way to cope with huge news.

Sorry guys

I have two hamsters in the cage behind me. The little guy is chugging on
the big guy. Do hamsters "do it" the same way as dogs? They could just
be playing... After all, animals have proper male/female role instincts
built into them at birth don't they?