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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:27 PM by jokei
reply to post by grapesofraft



Of course we do, agreed, but first and foremost it should be that of adult consent... redefining age limits for adults isn't relavant to this discussion.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:27 PM by grapesofraft
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Let me repeat. Consenting........Adults......Consenting...Adults.....CONSENTING.....ADULTS Does that help?


See you miss the point. To you it is about consenting adults. Right now it is about 1 man and 1 woman. So if we can redefine marriage on the whims of society then it could later to be changed to go beyond consenting adults. Then you will be offended because it will violate your personal limits on what marriage should be.



reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:45 PM by grapesofraft
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I am not saying that pedophillia and homosexuality go hand in hand. I am saying that making marriage redifinable for one group opens up the possiblity of redifining it for any other group of people.

Nobody said that gay people cooked their kids. I am sure the amounts of abuse are close to equal in both straight and gay couples. There are just way fewer gay couples with kids.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:47 PM by grapesofraft
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It also does not mean that God condones all of the choices people make with their free will.

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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:54 PM by The_Seeker
Originally posted by grapesofraft
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It also does not mean that God condones all of the choices people make with their free will.

[edit on 17-6-2009 by grapesofraft]


True



reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:59 PM by iulslion
Originally posted by grapesofraft
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I do not think gay people should have a right to adopt. Kids need a mother and a father because they each contribute different things to the childs life experience.


Exactly right. And from a psycological point of view, any kid who grows up having to deal with the fact that he/she has homosexual parents, is going to be a mess.

I can say this because I KNOW.

This may stimulate a laugh or two, and allot of my friends think its cool
My MUM is a LESBIAN.

So how has this affected me??

My life was fine, until my parents divorced, on the count of my Mum swinging the other way. Lucky, I was old enough to understand (16) what this even meant.

My younger brothers are messed up as a result. The eldest has severe authority issues, and gets kicked out of school on a regular basis. The younger is scared of life in every way possible, he is a girl trapped in a scared boy's body.

I strongly believe both of these issues are due to the fact that they lacked a strong male influence, and a connection with their family.

Brought up by two same sex parents, is an imbalance as bad as or probably worse than a single parent.

Homosexual behavior is fine when it just affects you. But in most cases, its not just about you. It affects other people too. In that way it is wrong, and you should put your thoughts on hold and put your family's happiness before yours.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 07:03 PM by grapesofraft
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LOL, I bet they are studying them all right. After 10 years that is like a common law marriage.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 07:05 PM by grapesofraft
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Thanks for sharing your life experience. Sorry to hear about your brothers struggles. Children get a part of their identity and their sexual role from their parents. That is why they need a man and a woman raising them...IMO.

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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 07:07 PM by grapesofraft
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Not to put words in OKC's mouth but he has made other posts to say that pedophilia is an abomination and so I think he is just using it as a comparison.

Also, I think he is trying to make a point that in other parts of the world what we consider pedophillia is legal.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 07:07 PM by The_Seeker
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I am sorry you experienced that as well. But not all experience it the way you do!
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