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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:01 PM by grapesofraft
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The visual picture of two birds having lesbian relations is hilarious. Is it even physically possible?

Also, if my two aunts lived together to control costs and raised my cousin... does that make them lesbians?



reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:07 PM by jokei
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It could lead to other things, you are correct, but those will have to be addressed as and when they transpire. When you speak of other forms of marriage though, I guess you're talking about man/beast/child/woman or some combination thereof, HOWEVER, again the point is that of consent...

So there really is no problem with gay marriage so long as it is between consenting adults.

As an aside, I've heard of an american who married his pet horse and I'm sure I saw something ages ago about one that married his car.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:10 PM by grapesofraft
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Ok well since we can change laws regarding the legality of homosexuality and homosexual marriage then could we not redifine marriage in a way that is:
1. Not limited to just 2 people
2. Does not require consent from property. Which an animal is property.
3. Make laws changing the age of consent so that it is much lower than today, or just allow the parents consent regardless of the age of the child.
4. Allow for incestual marriage between two related consenting adults.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:10 PM by Kevin_X1
reply to post by die_another_day



whose to say it isnt? there is an infinite amount of things we dont know about our own species. living patterns in nature are not fully understood and very peculiar.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:11 PM by grapesofraft
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Ok I said I am fine with Civil Unions that allow shared benefits, exchange of property at death, etc... What is wrong with that?


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:12 PM by Kevin_X1
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im not voting for those laws! and i dont know very many who would, well... mabey some


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:15 PM by Kevin_X1
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have you seen that episode of southpark (yeah my favorite source!) where the governor of california comes up with a new form of marriage for gays called "but buddies" so he doesnt have to decide either way? people are offended at the idea that they are being put in a different category, like they arent a valid part of marital sanction. many gays im sure are christian and want a christian wedding instead of a government partnership. You cant throw a random, new form of marriage at them. it wouldn't make any sense.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:15 PM by Kevin_X1
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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:15 PM by grapesofraft
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Well if you are for gay marriage you should at least be for some of them. Do they deserve less rights than you do? Can you say they were not born loving the way they do? Do you have any right to tell them who they can love?

Because those are the same questions you are giving to try to justify gay marriage.

Why shouldnt a man be allowed to marry 8 wives, or 2 men and 3 wives, etc?

Why shouldnt someone be allowed to marry an animal?

Why shouldnt a grown man be able to consenually marry his father?

Why shouldnt a 50 year old man be able to marry a 15 year old girl?


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:19 PM by Kevin_X1
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the simple reason iv been trying to say. because nobody cares for that junk. nobody in the here and now is voting for that. there needs to be majority in a democracy, and id like to think that the majority of americans and canadians would support, or at least not reject, true same sex marriage.

and yeah in the future in the past laws laws laws. well.... if they change, so be it.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:19 PM by grapesofraft
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It makes way more sense for a gay couple to have a civil union then a Christian marriage. How could gay people even want to be Christian or Jewish or Islamic? None of those religions even condone it, in fact they say the complete opposite. They are for harming and killing homosexuals. Not that I condone that, but just pointing out the obvious.

If I were gay I sure as heck would not want to be in any of those faiths or get married under them. That is like a black couple going to a KKK rally to get married.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:19 PM by qonone
grapesofraft, well said on too many of your posts to quote, i agree on your take.

Being straight does not mean we hate homosexual people and neither do we judge them. We won't make a duck when in company with them as all the gay people i have met are truly intelligent and great conservationists. I do not argue the point if they are born gay or if it was their choice later in their life but i do believe both issues play a role.

Comparing any human to an animal is just too PETA for me. It is sad seeing people going "Ohh..Ahh, that is so cute!" when reading such a BS story that is old news. I am not fighting for the right of one sexual orientation but the rights of the heterosexual, bisexual, homosexual or people who don't believe in sex, all of us who walk up straight, the human specie. People read stories like these (which is general knowledge) and they start comparing animals to humans when in truth majority of these animals do not actually perform the act of a sexual relationship other than to stay together for survival alone.

How can we start making life on this troubled earth better when comparing animals to ourselves, it is demeaning. I DO NOT agree with animal abuse or the senseless slaughter of animals, i really don't & PETA and animal rights activists can jump on my head i am really good with ignoring them. I will never choose the life or right of any animal over a human life because that is truly inhuman.

When we have respect for ourselves as men then we will show respect to all that is on mother earth, every single thing which makes it spin. The sexual issue of man cannot be compared to that of animals.

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