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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 10:35 PM by neil a
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How about illegally starting a war based on lies, or torture is that legal?thats just the stuff we know about, he's a very smart man and I'm sure he can do much more illegal activity without leaving proof.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 10:40 PM by grapesofraft
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Hmmm well what lies are those exactly that he told to start the war THAT THE CONGRESS APPROVED?

If it was torture why did the Justice Dept approve it and why didnt the Congress people including Pelosi take it before the people or before the court when they were briefed on it?


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 10:55 PM by neil a
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The lies were the weapons of mass destruction that were never found and isn't torture against the Geneva convention, dont we shake our fingers at other countries that have poor human rights practices.



reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 10:58 PM by grapesofraft
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Like I said if it was torture then why did the Justice Dept say it wasnt? I believe it is called Enhanced Interrogation.

Also, if the CIA told him their were weapons of mass destruction is it his fault that their werent. Did you expect him to fly over and verify what the CIA presented to him?


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 11:05 PM by neil a
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enhanced interrogation!lol! lets try it on you and will see if it torture or not. and if you buy that they really believed there were Wmd's then you'll believe whatever fox shoves down your throat.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 11:12 PM by grapesofraft
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I did not say whether I believed there were WMD's or not, I said that Bush/Cheney just gave the information that they had been given by the CIA.


reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 11:14 PM by neil a
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Can you prove the CIA gave them the information and it wasn't just cooked up in cheney/bushes head?


reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 12:09 AM by grapesofraft
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Yeah they admitted that they gave him the information in a Congressional hearing.


reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 01:19 AM by neil a
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Just following orders. The CIA worked for cheney/bush they would say whatever they wanted them to say.


reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 05:58 AM by Seth Bullock
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Are you kidding me? Does anyone in this country research or read anymore?

I mean beside obviously trumped up articles by the likes of Madson...

Do you rally want to know what Busch/Cheney knew about WMD and why we went to war? Read Hide and Seek: The Search for truth in Iraq by Charles Duelfer.

Do you want to see the consequences of the leftist media reaction to claims of torture and American atrocities? Read Lone Survivor by Marcus Luttrell.

And by the way people, if you are gonna talk about something, say it right. It's WMD not WMDs. They are Weapons of Mass Destruction not Weapons of Mass Destruction's.


reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 09:17 AM by miasria
Originally posted by grapesofraft
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Maybe for 2 reasons.

2. Obama is trying to say that everything Cheney/Bush did was some heinous crime and they were a disease against humanity.


he was... and i voted for him twice. i don't blame bush.. i do blame cheney.


reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 09:19 AM by miasria
Originally posted by Blaine91555
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Obama drew first blood releasing damning documents and then refusing to release the other documents that would prove who was right about Waterboarding.


actually, obama shoulda / coulda had him prosecuted. why hasn't he? was cheney pardoned via some sort of "classified" means?

i don't doubt anything. the guy is a menance to society and should be tried. preferably for war crimes.


reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 09:26 AM by miasria
Originally posted by grapesofraft
Originally posted by neil a
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I hope you dont think Cheney has Americas best interest in mind. He is only out for himself, making himself richer and destroying anyone or anything in his way!


Show me some proof of anything Cheney has done to destroy anyone or anything in his way or really has done anything that is against the law?


the list is long. i'll start with presidential powers... he was a strong proponant of skirting the constitution to give the president more powers. read up on this.

911... i do believe he was in part behind this one. i wouldn't have believed it a few years ago, but the evidence is mounting.

how much is he aware of the black op programs? in particular those involving illegal torture, rape, etc. of innocent victims? how much is he aware and / or has seen this as well as the illegal genetic testing and creations of hideous creatures that are part human? did he do anything about it? just my own thoughts.....

this last one is a big one... especially for a man who was in his position. was he aware? has he seen? was he a part of? did he do anything?



reply posted on 18-6-2009 @ 10:05 AM by miasria
cheney's own words:
An overview of the vice president's views on presidential power and covert action that shows a remarkable consistency from the 1980s to today.
www.pbs.org...

The Hidden Power
The legal mind behind the White House’s war on terror.
www.newyorker.com...

just a bit of research will show what an outright, deceptive and dangerous man this really is. it doesn't take much to find more. where there is smoke, there is fire. a immoral, corrupt man does not leave his baggage at the door. especially when in tough times.


unfortunately for american's many bought into his words and upfront "good character" he's not the only one.
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