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America Has Fallen, and Nobody Even Noticed

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posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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reply to post by ahimsa
 
I know what you're saying here ahisma, and I can see the real dedication in your posts, but to get others to go along with people like you and myself will be hard to do, and that was my point. I never intended to sound sarcastic towards you at all, for I see you have went through some of the same things I have when trying to organize! Sad isn't it?

People would rather sit back and watch their country go down the tubes instead of standing up for what they believe in!




posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 02:33 PM
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reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 
"China, Russia, Brazil bucking the New World Order?
They are so under the thumb and control of the New World Order it's not even funny!"

Ya think so? I suggest you read this, and then come back and tell me that again, okay? The above 3 nations are trying to run the nwo, which is why we are not in camps yet. This article speaks volumes for it'self.

Chinese Secret Society
Challenges Illuminati
By Henry Makow PhD
6-30-7
www.rense.com...



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 02:41 PM
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reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 
I am well aware of the freemasons involvement, and that america is not a nation, it's a british corporation. Most people won't have that though, and remain always in denial. But ya gotta dig deeper than rome to get at the cutting edge of the real truths surrounding the nwo.

Lineage is the key here, and always will be. If you're not a merovingian or a rosecrucian, or another one of the bluebloods, you're nothing! The rabbit hole goes so deep here that even that alice in wonderland rabbit would get nervous when it entered.

I can post things all day long on how we got here. The Rothschilds, the Popes, treaties of the past, trade agreements, military doctrines, etc, but the question is, what do we do now? The world, for the most part, patterns it'self after the american people, and when we lay down and do nothing, we can expect more of the same from our foreign neighbors!



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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"so what part of America is fallen? "

Does the word "infrastructure" mean anything to you? That's what has fallen, and more is coming when the final collapse happens! You think america is running great? We still have people displaced since hurricane andrew, and don't even get me started on katrina!

California is broke, like about 25 or 30 other states, and the american gov't can't even bail them out like they done the banks? The real numbers on the unemployed is not 8 or 9 percent like the news is saying, it's hovering around 24% as I am typing this right now! And that figure came out of the washington post about 2 months ago.

Obama was on chris matthews a few days ago and flat out said that america was out of "money"! You say that you are well off financially? How well off will you be when the currency changes? Think it can't or won't happen? It's already happening in georgia, and some towns in the north eastern states have issued their own curencies in the last 6 months.

Here's how stable america is right now, in case you weren't aware:

US Gives China Eminent
Domain Over US Property
Beyond High Treason
A. True Ott, PhD, ND
rense.com...



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 03:22 PM
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reply to post by getreadyalready
 
"Things are getting bad, but they are bad enough yet!
I am one of the ones still waiting. I would love to get it over with, but my current lifestyle is still pretty good. I don't want to subject my wife and kids to any undue hardship until it becomes inevitable. "


How bad do things have to get before you stand up and do something? Do you wait til they start dragging you and your family off to a camp somewhere, or do you wait til they get rid of the internet so we don't have any way of communicating?

Things aren't bad enough yet for ya? You mean that obama wanting fema camps "legalized" isn't a bad thing? Allowing the gov't to tell me and you what to eat when it comes to our gardens doesn't worry you? The 4th ammendment and habeous corpus both are gone, and yet you say things aren't bad enough yet?

According to the patriot acts 1&2, we can be jailed as "domestic" terrorists simply by protesting the gov't! Also, Congressman Ron Paul is already on a right-winged extremist list, and you still think things are all hunky dory?

You say things are pretty good at your home and you don't wanna subject your wife and kids to undo harm and other things? As plausible as that sounds, what about somebody who doesn't have a home? They lost it during the housing crash and lost their job because it got shipped overseas due to nafta and gatt. Does your fellow man or woman matter to you at all?

When I was a soldier in the US Army, I knew the dangers of what could lie ahead for me, but I had a wife and two girls to take care of and protect. And it felt danged good to know that I was protecting them, and many other families by me sacrificing my own life so they could live theirs!

I never knew what was going to happen to me day to day, and at the end of the day, it never mattered! But to think I was protecting people like you, who care about nobody but themselves was okay also, for the other several million who appreciated what I and many other troops done for them, will forever outweigh your selfishness!

While you were at relatives for christmas, me and many other fellow troops were pulling guard duty! While you were at the beach, me and others were training on how to kill the enemy so you would remain safe!

While you went vacationing, me and others like me were TDY in a foreign country somewhere gathering intelligence so america could remain one step ahead of her enemies and allies!

There were people like me, ready to die for people like you, and you probably never even cared! But that's okay, just keep enjoying your life, and your wealth, for there are still many people out there who do care for their fellow man and woman. I myself don't need the military to care about my neighbor!

I don't even know you but I can honestly say with a straight face that I do care what happens to you and your family, and once again, I am ready to lay my life on the line for you and many like you. If I can make a difference for my neighbors and my children, then my life given was well worth the cause, for I would rather die trying to preserve and bring back freedom than to get older, and die of old age as a slave!



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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it is so simple, it is on the americans nose. it is called greed. this greed is not just in america it is all over the world. the war needs to be waged on the greedy. so all you greedy people out there who think you dont have enough money or power. look out, we the lowely, we are next to you waiting to strike. so lock your doors and windows and reset your alarms so we caint come in. call the police when you hear noises downstairs or in your closet. we are the lowely, we are "we the people", who always pay the bill. you who take till there is nothing left for others, you be beware, for we are the lowely ready to strike you down. there is not enough room here for me to name all the greedy people on this earth. so, you the lowely do your part and do all you can to punish the greedy. lets wage war.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:23 PM
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Gee, yes I do know what the infrastructure is, it is still in place and will remain so. I have stated many times the greed of the relative few have brought about this dilemma.....I didn't make any of those decisions, but I did not leave my future in the hands of politicians either. I can raise my own food, drink my own water and generate my own electricity. You act like all this sneaked up on you and took you by surprise.....Eight years of Bush, war on two fronts and the rich lined up at the trought like the pigs they are......How could you not know what was happening and make preparations for it? Grow up and take responsibility for your own life and hold those who misused the public trust responsible for their actions. The power still resides with those with the best technology and the most advanced weapons.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:23 PM
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I can post things all day long on how we got here. The Rothschilds, the Popes, treaties of the past, trade agreements, military doctrines, etc, but the question is, what do we do now?


Wait until all the frogs feel jumpy and move there lilly pads around while they are mid air.

Yes, I know it's cruel but hey they are going to have to learn to adapt to the age of acquarius sooner or later.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by thewind
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 
"China, Russia, Brazil bucking the New World Order?
They are so under the thumb and control of the New World Order it's not even funny!"

Ya think so? I suggest you read this, and then come back and tell me that again, okay? The above 3 nations are trying to run the nwo, which is why we are not in camps yet. This article speaks volumes for it'self.

Chinese Secret Society
Challenges Illuminati
By Henry Makow PhD
6-30-7
www.rense.com...


I truly don't believe at the end of the day any of the Chinese are that clever or rutheless to one up this crowd.

Makes for a nice story. There are some other real answers why they haven't been able to open up the camp system yet.

It sure has nothing to do with the Chinese.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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reply to post by debris765nju
 
"Grow up and take responsibility for your own life and hold those who misused the public trust responsible for their actions."

Wow, you grow your own food? Big woop there eh? I've been growing my own food since I was 4 years old, except the time I was in the military. Like Hank Jr said, " a country boy can survive"!

I've been taking care of myself since I was 15, and I even knew about the nwo when I was about 12 or so. So save your condescendence for somebody who deserves it please.

NOw, how do you expect anybody to hold those responsible for the mess we're in? One citizen tried to arrest cheney, and that person got arrested themself. Same thing for ole dubya!

Citizens' arrests are a joke, and we both know it. Anybody who opposes the nwo elite are either dead or in jail. Here's a short list. Imprisoned: Jim Trafficant and 2 others I'd have to go back and look up their names.
The deceased are: Paul Wellstone, Ron Brown, James K. Hatfield, Cliff Baxter, Vince Fostor, and Daniel Pearl.

So, enlighten us all as to how to deal with these vipers?



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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"The power still resides with those with the best technology and the most advanced weapons. "


And yet the usa can't defeat a bunch of cave-dwelling taliban who use walkie talkies that cost about $50.00 bucks led by osama bin laden? I feel another geico commercial coming on!



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 10:23 PM
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The deeper question is "was there ever an America"? The "America" most of us tend to believe in is itself nothing but marketing propaganda. It was used to create a false patriotism need to buy into war and sells cars and homes. But, misdirection as always there. For example unions where established because immigrants didn't have a clue about the political power they had with the vote. To subvert that, they where misdirected into unions. The NWO carpetbaggers did the same pilfering in the 1800s that is wide spread today.

The average person just wants a nice simple life and is willing to toil to try and have it. The dream of having a decent life and home is not American, it's universal. The dream of basic religious freedom and freedom of though is natural to the spirit. I don't think there ever was a unified and properly cultivated "American Dream" of the people. Only marketing that shifts to facilitate the manipulation. I think the death of the American Dream is the death of the marketing along those directions. People are being pushed to more and more ravaging behavior and away from a solid natural foundation in order to kill nationalism marketing for global marketing.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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And what exactly is an "American" any more? I look around me as I do business out and about town and I very rarely see a person I could identify as an "American".

It is all immigrants from 3rd world countries.If not them their children. One of the things that those who want to change this country realized is that multi-generational citizens would resist.

They needed to bring in mass new residents from country's without democracy. These new residents would be so happy to just be here that they would except anything.

Expedite the citizenship process,give them amnesty if needed and suddenly you have new "Americans". Ones more agreeable to socialist agendas.

Notice they never say "American" citizens they just say "Americans". An "American" can be whom ever they want it to be.

They NEVER check your citizenship eligibility when you register to vote.

This ship of state is floundering on the rocks.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 11:45 PM
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As bad as it hurts me to say this, america never was a legal nation! It has been a mere industrial facade and experiment that has been used up! Most people don't know that the british troops occupied the 13 colonies until 1799 before returning to merry old england!

They allowed us to make our own laws, but they applied to only us and nobody else, and the british troops made sure before leaving that our leaders had their english orders understood and down pat! The biggest illusion of all times has been that one of american freedom, and now that one is being reeled in as we speak here today.

Big brother, global money laundering, civil liberties eroding, and many other sorts of moral decay have consumed this once great nation! What once was the beacon to the world has now become a flickering candle in the wind, waiting to be blown out at any given time!



posted on Jun, 18 2009 @ 12:00 AM
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Here's another article on how america has fallen. Hot off the wires as they say in the land of journalism. This makes me wonder just how long now before hyperinflation hits and locks in on us now in america?


The American Empire Is Bankruptwww.truthdig.com... week marks the end of the dollar’s reign as the world’s reserve currency. It marks the start of a terrible period of economic and political decline in the United States.



posted on Jun, 18 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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You seem to pick and choose what you want to respond to and you concept of American history is flawed. 50 dollar walkie-talkies have never defeated anyone and I don't remember the US declaring war on the taliban. In America we don't kill those we disagree with, we don't have a state religion and we get to decide what is right or wrong for us on a personal level. Try any of that in the taliban.



posted on Jun, 18 2009 @ 01:12 AM
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America is not fallen. They just want it to appear that way to the mass of sheep that populate America.

You see, the NWO can't stage a forced takeover, even with all of the armies in the world they'd be outnumbered 100/1. The only way the NWO can be introduced is if people have either no other alternative or if they WANT it. And the only way they can want the NWO to take over is if they believe that the USA is finished.

'America is finished. But don't worry. The New World Order will restore it to it's previous glory!'

Do you see the idea?



posted on Jun, 18 2009 @ 10:28 AM
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There were people like me, ready to die for people like you, and you probably never even cared! But that's okay, just keep enjoying your life, and your wealth, for there are still many people out there who do care for their fellow man and woman. I myself don't need the military to care about my neighbor!


You went a little kookoo there, but I understand. I certainly appreciate all the troops do, and I too am willing to lay my life on the line for my family, friends, and neighbors. You may have gotten the wrong impression from my statements.

There are 3-key elements to change, and they are natural laws, not mans. When I said things aren't bad enough yet, I think that is fairly obvious. We don't have riots in Detroit or Toledo or DC. We should have, but we don't....yet!

We are at the tipping point, and if there were a clear leader, or a clear mission, or a clear goal, I think the American people (including myself) would jump on the opportunity to change things drastically.

Absent that clear picture of the future, we have to have a pretty miserable status quo before taking drastic measures.

I commend you for your services, but since I haven't heard of you being arrested as a terrorist, or starting a revolution in your corner of the country, then I can assume things aren't quite bad enough for you yet either?!?!?


Go out to the bars one night, or the parks, or restaurants, or Disneyland, or the beach, American's still have a pretty good standard of living. So without a clear agenda, they aren't going to throw that away just yet.

We are with you though Wind, don't count us out. Just biding our time!



posted on Jun, 18 2009 @ 10:30 PM
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"You seem to pick and choose what you want to respond to and you concept of American history is flawed. 50 dollar walkie-talkies have never defeated anyone and I don't remember the US declaring war on the taliban."

Umm, no I don't pick and choose what I want to reply to. I don't have the time to reply to all posts, but I do reply to the ones I feel are the most necessary and need to be further addressed. Also, you say we never declared war on the taliban?

Apparently you have forgotten about 9-11?? You know, when dubya declared war against al-qaeda and the taliban??? Those are GW Bush's words, not mine! Now for the $50.00 dollar walkie talkies. Russia fought the taliban for 10 years and packed up and went home, or did you forget about that too?

Now you see why I reply to some posts, and some I don't. For had I not replied to you, you'd still be in the dark about the taliban now wouldn't you?



posted on Jun, 18 2009 @ 10:44 PM
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"I commend you for your services, but since I haven't heard of you being arrested as a terrorist, or starting a revolution in your corner of the country, then I can assume things aren't quite bad enough for you yet either?!?!? "

The reason you haven't heard of me being arrested as a terrorist is because you don't live here in virginia where I do. No, I have not been arrested as of yet, but I have been heavily verbally reveered by the local authorities to cease my being disruptiveness or face jail time!

If you truly feel the way you say you do about what's happening and would actually stand up for yourself and your neighbors, then I will humbly apologise to you for my previous rant! But if you go back yourself and re-read your first post, you did sound like you cared for nobody else but you and your family. Like I said, I do apoligise and hope that you accept it.

But I have the same trouble here where I live with people that care about nobody else but themselves! I have talked to local town council members, county authorities, local law enforcement, and even the mayors of the neighboring towns, and while all are in agreement with what's going on, they halt when the discussion gets to doing something about it.

People wanna do something, but they are scared, and with good reason I know, but where would we be had Paul Revere not made his ride? Where would we be had not the colonists taken their stand? This is what I try to get people to acknowledge, and still they balk!

That's what I mean about that most americans have lost their spines, and then there are people like me who will, I gurantee you be the first, if not one of the first to either be killed or imprisoned by the NWO when the dookie hits the fan!

My wife and I have discussed this extensively, and she knows that one day, if I live long enough, I will be killed or taken off to a camp, and while she doesn't like it, she also knows that somebody has got to start the process of standing up against the tyranny! I have schooled her to what's happening and when people at work see things on the news that's happening, she tells them that I knew about it long before it happened, and this totally freaks out the people she works with!

Stay strong, stay aware, and always remain faithful, and above all else, Godspeed to you and yours!




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