Father bans school from fingerprinting daughter

Father bans school from fingerprinting daughter

www.oxfordmail.co.uk

A father has refused permission for his daughter's Oxford school to take her fingerprints - fearing it is step towards a 'Big Brother' state.

He said: "Once the infrastructure is in place those guidelines could be abolished. That's my concern."

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This thread surely shows the direction the government is heading in regards to data basing as many of us as possible including our children. I am not one who panics over every little thing that is leading us all to a "Big Bother" way of life. But I do find it concerning as the parrent in this story shares how it desensitises our children, how when they're grown up they will be applying for everything from a passport, for jobs, a driver licence and won't even bat an eyelid about having fingerprints taken or a laser being shined in their eyes. As a young parent myself, I would find it insulting "If" my child looked upon me as an old minded parent just being paranoid instead of a parent whom believes in free will and the right of privacy. I would love to hear all posts of view on this topic.



www.oxfordmail.co.uk
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This guy is a hero.

The state has no authority other than that which we give them.

And this man gives me hope. He decided to not give them authority.

Now, if only everyone else would get on board, we can change this system for the better.

Is this really new news? I remember being fingerprinted back in elementary and that was back in the early to mid 90's.

But, it still doesn't make it right at all.

[edit on 6/16/2009 by Uniceft17]

when I was in elementary school our local police implemented a policy of fingerprinting children for the purposes of finding lost children.

I, a self-thinking 7 year old without an ounce of foresight, thought that it would be fun to have my fingerprints taken and went ahead and had them taken, no permission slip, nothing. My parents lost their minds! They complained to my principal, the school board and the police. Ultimately the records were returned to my parents and destroyed and I've never heard of child fingerprinting in my area since.

there is no, repeat, no reason to fingerprint a child. Ever.

reply to post by muzzleflash


Great point and well taken. It is awesome to see parents standing up against intrusions forced upon our lives especially our children.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
This guy is a hero.

This guy isn't a hero, he's a normal father who is actually thinking. Kudos to him for that. Maybe more normal fathers, mothers, and just people will start thinking.

reply to post by Uniceft17


I'm a bit older and never had to have my fingerprints taken in school, my two boy's have never had theirs taken yet while at school but as you said it isn't right

ty for posting

reply to post by Tamale_214


You nailed the point in your last line in your post! No reason! ty for sharing your experience

Well what can you say that hasn't already been said. There are hundreds of threads about finger printing & DNA databases on ATS. You'll probably find that most people will agree with your own stance on the subject, but when it comes to our government, they don't care what you or anyone else thinks. They have an agenda and they are going to carry it out regardless.

I believe we are all entitled to privacy and I also believe in innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately our government treats us all like potential criminals or terrorists, which is the main reason for finger printing children and collecting everyones DNA. It will be a cold day in hell before I hand over a sample of my own DNA or allow myself to be finger printed when I have committed no crime.

What I find insulting is all these people who are all for it and come out with the same idiotic slogan over and over again. "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear." These people are completely devoid of any intelligence and common sense. Even more so if they trust New Labour, a government that is completely without any morals & ethics and who has done nothing but lie and deceive us since the day they came to power.

Taking chidren's finger prints isn't new. It's been happening for quite a while now for various reasons. It's being used in school library's & checking in & out of school. Give fascists an inch and they will gladly take a mile.

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reply to post by kindred


I understand your point of view, no doubt it's been a topic for quite some time now but I just thought it was a great thread to share since this parent stood up so honorably as more of us should do... Your comments are well noted and appreciated "honestly"

I know of a business using fingerprint recognition software in relation to a bundyclock to register what time it's employees clock on/off for work.

I wonder if they would still employ if they refused fingerprints to be taken.

They are not a security related business, only a local social club/pub.

Now I can understand their point of view in relation to stopping workmates clocking fellow employees on/off work, but this is just too much.

What is next, laser eye scans to get your loaf of bread, in big-brothers socialist food lines.

[edit on 16-6-2009 by acrux]

Good for him!

Why do they need to take the fingerprints of children anyway?

Oh, right, because of some tenuous reason we can't possibly understand.

Yeah....

I can smell something.

I agree with this guy. In today's society, none of us seem to mind if we are asked to provide crucial and private information to people we have never even met before. I believe that the world has come to the point where technology is being utilized in every facet of our society.

New Labour, a government that is completely without any morals & ethics and who has done nothing but lie and deceive us since the day they came to power.

I can understand your hatred of this "new labour", but even when another party comes to power, regardless off whether left/right or middle of the road, sadly they will continue with same blatant disregard of its citizens.

Their attitude if put in a letter form might go something like this


Dear Insignifigant Little #,

We are ordering you to give us more money, if not we will steal it off you anyway. We know of your feelings in relation to privacy matters, but tough titties, we don't care. Be informed that your Glorious Leader's newly instigated secret police or SS for short, will soon be paying you a visit to ensure that you understand/follow the newly imposed rules. We know you will not feel disgruntled about the newly installed way of life, graciously imposed upon the pathetic multitudes such as yourself, by the generous New World Order. If you see any problems or have any concerns whatsoever, please do not hesitate to raise these matters with your friendly SS officer, who will only be too happy to deal with you in his newly special equipped mobile public problem dealing office.

Regards
Your New Overlord.

[edit on 16-6-2009 by acrux]

reply to post by Rams59lb


GOOD F'N JOB!

My mom was onto everything thats happening today 20 years ago, they did the same thing for us wanted all of our finger prints for if we ever went "missing", my mom said hell no. Same with vaccines, mom said helllll no. And me and my siblings have had great health our whole life, unlike people I remember from school who seemed constantly sick with something.

Good job by this guy, it we only had every parent in the country saying no to poisonous vaccines, then we would be stylin.

reply to post by Uniceft17


I had mine done too when I was in Elem. school. My mom knew about it. I remember being told it was for "incase I got lost." I thought it was fun then, now I wouldnt want my kids being fingerprinted.

reply to post by acrux


Exactly... Eye scan or RFID for groceries... great post ty

reply to post by AngelInterceptor


Can you Smell "Goverment Cooking Up Crap" lol... ty for sharing

reply to post by desertdreamer


Good points made in your post... Lets keep our ears to the ground as they try to impliment these things... ty for sharing