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What I see in the Racial/collective unconscious...

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posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 04:53 PM
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reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Thanks for sharing your opinion, but let me thank you even more for proving what I have already said!


You can't even use your own logic against me, pretty sad eh? DragonriderGal?

So as usual you talk about something else and proceed to insult me when the genuine problem is that you lack the ability to debate... because your talking about crap




posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


You also missed answering the following:


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Thanks.


Nope, didn't miss it. It is just more of your manipulative and trolling behavior. You really think you're so clever, don't you. *rolls syes* You don't even see what an idiot such assumtive behavior makes you appear.

But thanks for sharing your opinion.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 04:54 PM
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Thank you for sharing your opinon now can you please answer:


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Cheers.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Thanks for sharing your opinion, but let me thank you even more for proving what I have already said!


You can't even use your own logic against me, pretty sad eh? DragonriderGal?

So as usual you talk about something else and proceed to insult me when the genuine problem is that you lack the ability to debate... because your talking about crap


Whatever. I think you are just doing your job. I don't take it personally, eh?
Thanks for sharing your opinion, yet again.

OH and thanks for helping me get my points out of the red. Every time you post on my thread, I get five points, I am told. So, thanks!!
(not sure what good ATS points are, but hey, it is always nice to be in the black).



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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Once again your avoiding the issue, why are you being so defensive lv if your so sure your right?

Please, again, answer me the question:


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Cheers,



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Thank you for sharing your opinon now can you please answer:


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Cheers.

Thanks for sharing your idiotic manipulative interrogation type question, yet again. It is trolling pure and simple. *shrug*

I realize you have a job to do here, but I don't have to or even want to play it with you, eh?

So please, troll away as you wish. I don't take it personally.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Thank you for sharing your opinon now can you please answer:


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Cheers.

Thanks for sharing your idiotic manipulative interrogation type question, yet again. It is trolling pure and simple. *shrug*

I realize you have a job to do here, but I don't have to or even want to play it with you, eh?

So please, troll away as you wish. I don't take it personally.


Haha, now your being exposed as the idiot you are!!!

Sorry but could you answer the questions I asked please?

I'll name them again in case you didn't see them *lol*


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Thanks.



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Thank you for sharing your opinon now can you please answer:


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Cheers.

Thanks for sharing your idiotic manipulative interrogation type question, yet again. It is trolling pure and simple. *shrug*

I realize you have a job to do here, but I don't have to or even want to play it with you, eh?

So please, troll away as you wish. I don't take it personally.


Haha, now your being exposed as the idiot you are!!!

Sorry but could you answer the questions I asked please?

I'll name them again in case you didn't see them *lol*


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Thanks.

oh yah, there is an idiot being exposed alright. *shakes head sadly* Go ahead and do your job. I know they probably check your work to make sure you aren't sluffing off.

But I have to head out. Hope you have a great nite, eh?

[edit on 8-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Thank you for sharing your opinon now can you please answer:


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Cheers.

Thanks for sharing your idiotic manipulative interrogation type question, yet again. It is trolling pure and simple. *shrug*

I realize you have a job to do here, but I don't have to or even want to play it with you, eh?

So please, troll away as you wish. I don't take it personally.


Haha, now your being exposed as the idiot you are!!!

Sorry but could you answer the questions I asked please?

I'll name them again in case you didn't see them *lol*


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Thanks.

oh yah, there is an idiot being exposed alright. *shakes head sadly* Go ahead and do your job. I know they probably check your work to make sure you aren't sluffing off.

But I have to head out. Hope you have a great nite, eh?

[edit on 8-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]


Missed your answers?

Strange, I thought someone that connected to the racial/spiritual unconcious would be able to provide them?

Obviously not.

I'll have a fantastic night darling thank you very much and it will all be the better knowing you have been exposed.

For a chance to redeem yourself for you and your followers, could you answer this for me:


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Cheers,



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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This seems to be an interesting topic although I must admit I haven't read every post here.

I do belive in the sort of collective unconsciousness (call it what you will) that the OP is talking about...the Hindus have a similar concept with the "akashic library" and reincarnation, an idea shared by Jains and Buddhists, among others. (Many Greeks and Romans also believed in reincarnation, as did Manicheans and even some early Christian Gnostics...). Or perhaps its on a scientific level you could look at it as our DNA talking to us somehow...there are inborn aspects of the brain; all babies are born knowing the difference between a human face and other objects automatically, for example. There really is so much we don't understand about what we "already know."

What's always been a matter of contention is to what extent a person maintains a solid "self" that is passed down...Even within Hinduism and Buddhism there are varying answers on this. My reading of the ancient core Mahayana Heart Sutra is that what passes on is not so much an individual self as a series of "constituents" (or more technically, skandha) that make up the self or other selves. I see these as kind of "mixing and re-mixing" with each other endlessly through time on a spiritual level, which perhaps manifests on a scientific, physical level as the endless swirl of DNA...our human "family tree" actually resembles a kind of "net" more than a tree from a purely genetic perspective...

Others might think this view too radical and say there is a "core self" that passes down. I am not going to out-and-out deny the possibility but I will say there seems to be less evidence in support of this, at least from my perspective. I sometimes think people can't bear to let go of the idea of an intrinsic core self, but somehow I burned that idea out of myself (probably through several decades of Buddhist textual study) to some extent at least so the idea doesn't really bother me. Is it just a kind of misguided attachment or is there really a core self that passes down? Well that's the adamantine question, isn't it? Over ten thousand years mankind has puzzled over that one, with zealots on both ends of the spectrum.

"Who really knows?"
-Rig Veda, c. 1700–1100 BC

[edit on 10/8/09 by silent thunder]



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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@ Death Kron, you sure like to troll....or maybe you have a crush on Dragon Girl? It's either one or the other, but whatever your reason may be, it's kind of disgusting. Eww.


@ Dragon. Great posts, as always. Love to see you posting, and love to see YOU. Your posts are always filled with some of THE most valid spiritual information I've ever seen on the net. And coming from me, that's something worth making a plaque out of! Keep up the good work, gal.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by VergeofObscene
@ Death Kron, you sure like to troll....or maybe you have a crush on Dragon Girl? It's either one or the other, but whatever your reason may be, it's kind of disgusting. Eww.


@ Dragon. Great posts, as always. Love to see you posting, and love to see YOU. Your posts are always filled with some of THE most valid spiritual information I've ever seen on the net. And coming from me, that's something worth making a plaque out of! Keep up the good work, gal.


Coming out with comments like that it looks like your the one with the crush mate!

Talk about being up someones backside...



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron
Missed your answers?

Strange, I thought someone that connected to the racial/spiritual unconcious would be able to provide them?

Obviously not.

I'll have a fantastic night darling thank you very much and it will all be the better knowing you have been exposed.

For a chance to redeem yourself for you and your followers, could you answer this for me:


So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?


Cheers,


Thanks for more trolling, DK. I have to say you definitely are good at it.

So do they pay you for this or do you do it for the good of the cause? Just curious.
And as always, thanks for sharing your opinion, hunny bunny.



[edit on 9-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 06:35 AM
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Once again you haven't answered, however I didn't expect you too...

I wonder why that is? Maybe you realise how ridiculous some of the things you have said actually sound?



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by silent thunder
This seems to be an interesting topic although I must admit I haven't read every post here.


That's ok, st. Some of the last couple pages hasn't really been worth reading.



I do belive in the sort of collective unconsciousness (call it what you will) that the OP is talking about...the Hindus have a similar concept with the "akashic library" and reincarnation, an idea shared by Jains and Buddhists, among others. (Many Greeks and Romans also believed in reincarnation, as did Manicheans and even some early Christian Gnostics...). Or perhaps its on a scientific level you could look at it as our DNA talking to us somehow...there are inborn aspects of the brain; all babies are born knowing the difference between a human face and other objects automatically, for example. There really is so much we don't understand about what we "already know."



Yes, that is what it is I am accessing, the akashic library/records aka racial/collective unconscious. I never know how to spell that though! Unfortunately things like word spellings don't come thru my link very well, considering it is pretty much right brain. And there are many other names for it as well, which varies from culture to culture. The fellow there at the portal appears to me as a native american only because that is the venue I accessed the portal from.


What's always been a matter of contention is to what extent a person maintains a solid "self" that is passed down...Even within Hinduism and Buddhism there are varying answers on this. My reading of the ancient core Mahayana Heart Sutra is that what passes on is not so much an individual self as a series of "constituents" (or more technically, skandha) that make up the self or other selves. I see these as kind of "mixing and re-mixing" with each other endlessly through time on a spiritual level, which perhaps manifests on a scientific, physical level as the endless swirl of DNA...our human "family tree" actually resembles a kind of "net" more than a tree from a purely genetic perspective...



Perhaps there is a genetic component to this. But I do know that I don't reincarnate in the same family line all the time, so clearly there has to be some higher level, which to me is the racial/collective unconscious, where the memories of who 'I' am are stored.

I see it sort of like a giant spirit 'internet' where everyone, everything, and every event has it's own 'webpage'. We humans have a connection to that 'page' from day one, and we get a lot of info that seems 'instinctive' like the human face recognition stuff from that link. But as we grow older, and get shamed and bullied and ignored for accessing that level (scares adults, and for sure the NWO bunch so don't want us to access that), we lose touch with it. Plus day to day life tends to dull the obvious connection unless it is nurtured and valued, it appears.


Others might think this view too radical and say there is a "core self" that passes down. I am not going to out-and-out deny the possibility but I will say there seems to be less evidence in support of this, at least from my perspective. I sometimes think people can't bear to let go of the idea of an intrinsic core self, but somehow I burned that idea out of myself (probably through several decades of Buddhist textual study) to some extent at least so the idea doesn't really bother me. Is it just a kind of misguided attachment or is there really a core self that passes down? Well that's the adamantine question, isn't it? Over ten thousand years mankind has puzzled over that one, with zealots on both ends of the spectrum.

"Who really knows?"
-Rig Veda, c. 1700–1100 BC

[edit on 10/8/09 by silent thunder]


From what I am seeing. every life you live adds more to the 'core self' that is stored out there, and sometimes changes it, if the life was significant enough. But there is a basic "you" out there, from my own experience of remembering past lives and from what I see in the racial/collective unconscious as well.

I find it very comforting to finally be able to 'know'.


[edit on 9-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by VergeofObscene
@ Death Kron, you sure like to troll....or maybe you have a crush on Dragon Girl? It's either one or the other, but whatever your reason may be, it's kind of disgusting. Eww.


@ Dragon. Great posts, as always. Love to see you posting, and love to see YOU. Your posts are always filled with some of THE most valid spiritual information I've ever seen on the net. And coming from me, that's something worth making a plaque out of! Keep up the good work, gal.


Thanks, VoO! I appreciate your feedback and support very much.


And thanks for reaffirming your belief and understanding of what i am seeing. I do realize that you don't put up with nonsense very well, and that tells me that you don't consider my information nonsense.


But yeah, DK. I think he may be one of those disinfo/chaos creating troll types. For sure he is persistant enough to follow me over here to my thread. But you are right. Either it is kinda disgusting or he is getting paid to do so. *lol*

[edit on 9-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron
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Once again you haven't answered, however I didn't expect you too...

I wonder why that is? Maybe you realise how ridiculous some of the things you have said actually sound?

Wow. Do you sit around waiting for me to show up or what?? That is kinda creepy.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Originally posted by Death_Kron
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Once again you haven't answered, however I didn't expect you too...

I wonder why that is? Maybe you realise how ridiculous some of the things you have said actually sound?

Wow. Do you sit around waiting for me to show up or what?? That is kinda creepy.


I wouldn't be flattered, I'm just on ATS quite a lot



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 08:50 AM
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Just thought I would add what another member has mentioned in a different thread:


I think it's funny that people think others are paid to say things just because it differs from their own opinion, a sure sign of a losing argument.



posted on Oct, 9 2009 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal
 


Once again you haven't answered, however I didn't expect you too...

I wonder why that is? Maybe you realise how ridiculous some of the things you have said actually sound?

Wow. Do you sit around waiting for me to show up or what?? That is kinda creepy.


I wouldn't be flattered, I'm just on ATS quite a lot


Oh that's right. It's your paycheck. Sorry, I forgot.



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