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What I see in the Racial/collective unconscious...

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posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Geladinhu
Okay, so I have questions.

Who is trying to avoid change? I mean THE one that makes others follow him. If there is such thing. How did slavery begin on planet Earth? Why does it exist till today? Is this peculiar to this planet? I feel that the condition we are in is "overdue", seems like someone doesn't want something to happen. Could you elaborate on this idea?


The NWO bunch aka Illuminati aka Jue-sah (originally aliens brought here by the greys to get us wild and rowdy humans under control) are the ones who are trying to keep humanity from making enlightenment so they can enslave us (like they haven't been trying for the last 300,000 or so years). *rolls eyes*

Slavery is not just an earth problem, but it was the Jue-sah who brought that concept here because the greys gave us to them as part of the payment for them coming here to rescue the greys from us. We were getting into stuff, ruining experiments, destroying their work spaces, you know.. the kind of things humans are good at!
The greys were the 'gods' that walked among us in Genesis.

We are on the fast track for making enlightenment which will not only be mental and spiritual, but it will be physcial too. We will be able to shift into light/spirit bodies as we choose once we figure out how to do it. The earth energy is rising and is becoming sufficently risen to allow us to make this transformation. I don't think it was really possible before now though. But you better believe the NWO bunch is doing everything they can to stop it from happening, so perhaps that is what you are feeling?




posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by xds777
Is there a practised technique at any time in human history, forgotten or alive, that allowed you to gain a stronger awareness temporarily or permanent, prefferably to the degree of being able to nearly totally differentiate that experience of awareness from the previous state?
I would like to expand on the awareness variable and add intuition, precognition, telekinesis, past-life remembering, one-ness awareness is a good one. etc.

[edit on 2-8-2009 by xds777]


Hum.. well, meditation is one way to access that level of awareness, and part of it too, is realizing that a lot of what you may be ascribing to an over active imagination may in fact be that you are accessing the spirit realm where there are a lot of things going on all the time. I see the racial/collective unconscious of every alien species like a building and the spaces in between them is the spirit realm. We can access that level too. In fact, I think it is easier to access the spirit realm than the racial unconscious.

And all the things you are wanting to reconnect with are things that (for various reasons) the greys blocked in us out of self protection or worry about other alien species contaminating their own racial unconscious with 'outsider' information.

So it is harder than it should be to connect to that stuff, even when trying. The rest of the 'inability' is the way we humans have been manipulated and controlled by the NWO in to discounting any validity to that level of awareness; calling anyone who did either completely crazy or 'of the devil' etc. So a big part of all this is learning to trust yourself and allowing yourself to 'hear' or 'see' at a level that you currently may consider just your imagination.


[edit on 13-8-2009 by DragonriderGal]



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by afoolbyanyothername
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How did slavery begin on planet Earth? Why does it exist till today? Is this peculiar to this planet?


Is slavery peculiar to this planet ??? What a strange question, indeed !
I wasn't aware of any other planets with intelligent life ... which planets and species are you referring to ?


There are lots of aliens, actually. There are the greys of course. The tall skinny blue people (I think they are what people are calling the Pleiadians), demons and their ilk, and the jue-sah of course, plus all of the elder races, like the elves (actually the name is E-l*th which we can't pronounce so we call them elves), unicorns, fairies, gnomes, etc.
As for planets, the elves have at least 12 they've laid claim to. The greys are pretty much only here now. Their home world is long behind them. I think the Jue-sah also are pretty much 'where ever they lay their hats is their home' kind of people too. The blues, well obviously in the Pleiades somewhere, eh?

And several of the alien species do have slaves, although really it is more like indentured servants.

[edit on 13-8-2009 by DragonriderGal]



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by xds777
What happened to this thread?

I went on vacation.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 04:40 PM
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Hey dragon, nice posts! Always a pleasure (and a breath of fresh air, too!) to read what you have to say on here.
Would you mind telling me about the tall skinny blue people? They interest me and I had a dream about them. Do you know what their goals are, etc?

Also, what is the fate of the greys, and why are they abducting people? And are they in cahoots with the NWO bunch?

It's weird. I always feel like I'm talking avout a science fiction novel when I venture into these topics, but it's probably reality.

Cheers.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by VergeofObscene
Hey dragon, nice posts! Always a pleasure (and a breath of fresh air, too!) to read what you have to say on here.
Would you mind telling me about the tall skinny blue people? They interest me and I had a dream about them. Do you know what their goals are, etc?

Also, what is the fate of the greys, and why are they abducting people? And are they in cahoots with the NWO bunch?

It's weird. I always feel like I'm talking avout a science fiction novel when I venture into these topics, but it's probably reality.

Cheers.


Hi VergeofObscene!

The tall skinny blue people are what I think are getting called the pleiadians.
When they die and end up human, they tend to reincarnate as members of the Arab nations. That mindset fits them pretty well. Theirs is a very harsh code, like the desert tribes. Mercy is seen as a fatal flaw, and kindness is perceived to be a weakness used only by women and children as a way to manipulate the strong around them to get their way; A battle death is the ultimate glory and a honor to die for that which one believes. Kinda Klingon-like but not as nice as klingons.
Roddenberry used the actual aliens as models for his 'aliens' btw. The elves of course are the Vulcans. The ferengi are the Jue-sah. He was poking fun at the more hard core traditionalists in his own people with that one.

The blues are playing kindly benefactors to us currently, so they can use us against the NWO bunch who are their mortal enemies. If they ever actually look at you and smile, you will see their eyes have a kind of greenish glow and their teeth are sharp and pointed, rather like one of the big cats, like a tiger or leopard. In this case, the enemy of my enemy is SO not our friend. They just hate the Jue-sah far more than they hate us. But push come to shove, don't expect them to really want to help us humans.

Obama is one of theirs. With his NWO bloodline on his mother's side, the NWO thought that they could use/control him, since he is also a 32nd level prince hall mason. But the main reason they let Obama (you will NEVER find a more bigoted, prejudiced bunch than the NWO people) be elected was so that they can assassinate him which would start the blacks rioting and looting like the LA riots only on a nation wide scale. They would then use that as a reason to declare martial law and take away our guns, and essentially in the process, take over America.

I am manifesting every day that Obama survives any such attempts and would recommend anyone else do as well, even if you don't like him or what he is doing personally. Remember, although he isn't really working for us either; he is loyal to the blues and their agenda of destroying the NWO bunch, his death would do so much more bad than his living, from what I can see.

The greys are still alive; they are greatly weakened though by the loss of so many members into human bodies. They are now being attacked by the NWO bunch, although they, at the beginning, were the ones who brought the Jue-sah here to control us humans after they found they couldn't. They were aligned with the NWO because of the need to protect themselves from us, but the Jue-sah's vicious methods and cruel treatment of us didn't sit well with the greys and they distanced themselves from the whole NWO bunch quite a while ago.

The greys are only one of the alien groups that do abductions. Some of it is done to try to get the spirit back out of a human body and back into it's original alien form. I don't think it works very well though, but they keep trying.

The NWO bunch is behind some as well. Of course you can guess that those are for the whole 'terrifying humanity about aliens' effect, so those abductions tend to be quite brutal. But they pretend to be greys so we will blame the wrong beings for the abuse, and be afraid of the greys, and more likely try to kill them if they try contacting us independently of the NWO bunch.

Also, since the greys did create us as sentient beings, they do checkups on us every now and again. It isn't 'experiments' as much as investigations as to what the human genome is up to now. They know we are going to make enlightenment, and the physical enlightenment part is of great fascination to them. They want to see how things change as we get closer to making that shift.

And yes, it does seem kinda weird to think of this stuff as real, but then if we didn't, the NWO propaganda wouldn't be working, eh?


[edit on 18-8-2009 by DragonriderGal]



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 06:59 PM
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Hi just seen this thread. I need to go to page one and read it but it is something you have posted about before and it interested me very much when I read your posts on it. Looking forward to your take on this. Thanks .



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Green
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Hi just seen this thread. I need to go to page one and read it but it is something you have posted about before and it interested me very much when I read your posts on it. Looking forward to your take on this. Thanks .


Hey MG!
I am looking forward to your question.
Thanks for swinging in!



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Hey MG!
I am looking forward to your question.
Thanks for swinging in!


The trouble is I dont know where to start! Your thread covers a wide and vast range of things and thats only in two pages!!

I believe we all came from one, especially recently this is an thought I have become even more connected to. what is your take on this DragonGal?

Plus this collective unconscious, should it not be known as the collective consciouse? To say unconsciouse does that not sway to the unaware thoughts?? Is it like a vast record of written information or is it unwritten?



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Green

Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Hey MG!
I am looking forward to your question.
Thanks for swinging in!


The trouble is I dont know where to start! Your thread covers a wide and vast range of things and thats only in two pages!!

I believe we all came from one, especially recently this is an thought I have become even more connected to. what is your take on this DragonGal?

Plus this collective unconscious, should it not be known as the collective consciouse? To say unconsciouse does that not sway to the unaware thoughts?? Is it like a vast record of written information or is it unwritten?


Yah, it does cover a lot of stuff, for sure!


I do see that the big bang was the 'beginning' of this whole experience here. So, yes, in that I do see that we all came from 'one', but unlike others, I don't believe we are all meant to return to 'one'; otherwise why all the effort to be not 'one'? I think it was part of what the NWO bunch planted in the eastern religions because of their lack of 'selves'; being one (aka hive minds) feels far more natural to them than the idea of self differentiation. What I see as actually necessary though, is to be a solid self that can connect to the whole of the universal energy. So more of a balancing act, really. And surely not as easy as it sounds.

And I kinda get the sense that when we make enlightenment, we will become the creators of the next 'big bang' to create other universes. So this all may be the cumulative and intricate process of procreation at the universal level. That part isn't very clear, but the whole idea keeps rolling around in my head and 'feels' right.

As for calling it the racial/collective unconscious, I run with that because it is usually only thru our own unconscious that we access it, but it could be called the collective consciousness, sure.
There are a lot of names for it, over the centuries, probably the best known would be the askaric records/library. But it isn't a written record. My impression is that it is more like a warehouse of 'memories'. The information is stored in those memories of the people who were involved in the event. Consequently, if someone didn't see it, then the information isn't usually there.

But luckily, all the aliens now in human bodies have their memories in our racial unconscious too, and there were always aliens around when something happened prior to the mass exodus when their rescue ships arrived, so most everything in truly ancient history is in there somewhere.

But because of this, our racial/collective unconscious is very unique. Unlike some on here seem to think, aliens don't consider it is proper or in good taste (most actually find it rather disgusting) to reincarnate as a different kind of alien, and most of the various species have blocks in their DNA to prevent any other kind of alien spirit from reincarnating as one of them.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by DragonriderGal]



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 06:55 PM
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Hmmmm, this topic is really interesting, just curios DragonriderGal what do you see will happen here on Earth in 2012?



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by King_John
Hmmmm, this topic is really interesting, just curios DragonriderGal what do you see will happen here on Earth in 2012?


Maybe we will create the happenings of 2012?? I believe we have been given the power of creation through thoughts, thoughts are very powerful they are able to move and manifest form. This is maybe done when enough like minded thoughts collect, so what ever we think will happen in 2012 will if enough people think it. Thats why I think ascension to a being of Universal Unconditional Love is a very important part of 2012. Become love and that is how our world will react in form.



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by King_John
Hmmmm, this topic is really interesting, just curios DragonriderGal what do you see will happen here on Earth in 2012?


Thanks for taking time to read, KJ.


There are a couple things I see happening. 1) the contract our overarching sentince has with the NWO bunch comes to an end. 2) We start learning to make physical enlightenment as a species, and that will change every thing. 3) The E-l*th, in force, will be coming back to help evict the NWO.

It will be the end of things as we 'know' them in part because we will be able to see thru all the crap and lies the NWO has been foisted off on us over the last 300,000 years and we will no longer have to put up with their lying, thieving, cheating, murdering ways.
Big hurray for that one!

I see that they may try to trigger that earth shift thing on their way out as a way to punish us, but I think by then, enough of us will be able to shift into light/spirit bodies plus with the Elves still here, I think we will be able to stop it or minimize the damage it will do.


Despite all the fear mongering they are busy doing all over the net and on this site too, the clearest future I see has us doing much better than they want us to believe. But remember, they always are going to try to scare us into submission. Fear is one of their favorite manipulative tools.



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Green

Originally posted by King_John
Hmmmm, this topic is really interesting, just curios DragonriderGal what do you see will happen here on Earth in 2012?


Maybe we will create the happenings of 2012?? I believe we have been given the power of creation through thoughts, thoughts are very powerful they are able to move and manifest form. This is maybe done when enough like minded thoughts collect, so what ever we think will happen in 2012 will if enough people think it. Thats why I think ascension to a being of Universal Unconditional Love is a very important part of 2012. Become love and that is how our world will react in form.


Part of the events are very much influenced by our beliefs and thoughts, for sure! If none of us make any effort to grow and change and be ready to make the shift into our spirit/light body, we can mess it up, for sure. That is one of the futures I see out there; humanity enslaved and so not happy, but it is such a weak one, I don't believe it is anything to worry about.

And right now is a hugely powerful time for manifesting with the earth/local space energy rising in frequency. That is why now is the time we will be making enlightenment, from what I see. And that is why we had the NWO bunch here, kicking us in the hinny, so that we would be ready to make the shift, versus just sitting around being all comfortable and unmotivated.


And my take is that it is not just being 'love', It is fully loving all aspects of yourself that is the key to all of this. The 'being love' fits too well into all the NWO hype that I have heard talked about all the time by the typical new agers. That leads me to believe it is part of the NWO's mis-information tactics that are meant to keep us from really doing what we need to do to successfully making the shift. Sure it sounds all nice and lovey-dovy, but it is the message of ALL the religions of the world, which I see very clearly having been created by the NWO bunch to control us humans and interfere with our spiritual progress.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by DragonriderGal]



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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What exactly are the crop circles and what significance do they have in relation to our history?



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by DragonriderGal
It is fully loving all aspects of yourself that is the key to all of this.


I could not agree more.
To fully love all aspects of everything and everything of and around the soul unconditionally.
When we are able to FULLY love then there is NO space left for fear, hate and negativity. It however takes a lot of faith to love FULLY without question or regard for any fear. I have achieved it only a handful of times in meditation and I will admit to you now it was so over whelming it brought me to tears. They were tears of joy but a most overwhelming emotional joy I found hard to understand. It was also a very humbling experience.



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by DragonriderGal

Originally posted by King_John
Hmmmm, this topic is really interesting, just curios DragonriderGal what do you see will happen here on Earth in 2012?


Thanks for taking time to read, KJ.


There are a couple things I see happening. 1) the contract our overarching sentince has with the NWO bunch comes to an end. 2) We start learning to make physical enlightenment as a species, and that will change every thing. 3) The E-l*th, in force, will be coming back to help evict the NWO.

It will be the end of things as we 'know' them in part because we will be able to see thru all the crap and lies the NWO has been foisted off on us over the last 300,000 years and we will no longer have to put up with their lying, thieving, cheating, murdering ways.
Big hurray for that one!

I see that they may try to trigger that earth shift thing on their way out as a way to punish us, but I think by then, enough of us will be able to shift into light/spirit bodies plus with the Elves still here, I think we will be able to stop it or minimize the damage it will do.


Despite all the fear mongering they are busy doing all over the net and on this site too, the clearest future I see has us doing much better than they want us to believe. But remember, they always are going to try to scare us into submission. Fear is one of their favorite manipulative tools.


What exactly is physical enlightenment?



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by King_John
What exactly is physical enlightenment?


Im not sure what dragonriderGal will say but for me physical enlightenment could be the total awarness and experience of the source and its connective consciousness whilst still in a physical body. This of course is a rare occurance that most do not experience whilst in a physical body. It is however not impossible, physical enlightenment is just as obtainable as spiritual enlightenment, the two are interconnected Im sure.

What do you see physical enlightenment as King_John?



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 06:31 PM
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Welcome back DRG! You've been missed. Well, I've missed ya at least......lol!

I absolutely cannot shake the feeling of impending doom / global catastrophe; in the natural disaster sense. I've had it my entire life, my earliest memories are attributed to this. I do inherently know that there is a great wisdom attached to everything that is going to happen (at least for some of us anyway!).

I just find it hard to believe that so many refuse to see the SHTF before all of the rewards become available for reaping. It's NOT all going to be love and light. At least not immediately. I think people need to start getting rational and a tad bit smarter, IMHO.

As we've discussed, the NA movement is definitely yet another NWO ploy. Those people are making the most fantastic puppets. We see it every day; even here in ATS threads. It's foolish and unrealistic. When has anything worth having ever come without tribulation?! pffffffffft

The division is becoming abundantly clear. Sadly there are too few really viewing the whole spectrum. Oh well.......more for us? lol! (I'm sure you know what I mean though)



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by jackieps1975
I absolutely cannot shake the feeling of impending doom / global catastrophe; in the natural disaster sense. I've had it my entire life, my earliest memories are attributed to this. I do inherently know that there is a great wisdom attached to everything that is going to happen (at least for some of us anyway!).


Im sorry you feel this way. I know deep within my soul that this is not the case.


It's NOT all going to be love and light


I have to respectively disagree. We are given the choice to fully surrrender to love and light and if we choose then yes it can.

Why do you feel you have been unable to shake this impending feeling of doom all your life? I imagine that is a very difficult place to be.

EDIT POST due to not being relevant to the Racial/collective unconscious.

[edit on 21-8-2009 by Mr Green]



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