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Muslim Call To Prayer In Your Hometown

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posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by Rook1545
The Muslim God is the same God that the Jews and Christians pray to.

That's wrong.

The Christians pray to a Trinity God. Father. Son. Holy Spirit.
Christ is God.

The Muslims and the Jews do not have a Trinity God.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

The Gods (or gods) are not the same at all.




posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 06:45 AM
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Mod Edit - content from deleted post removed, along with deliberate provocative comments.

To be honest.
I agree with Astyanax a few posts up that they should have the right to call to prayer, but not over loudspeakers for all to hear.
I don't want to be bombarded with any religious rubbish.


But i certainly don't find the Adhan to be offensive.... or any more offensive than any other religion/religious "noise" being forced on me.
Religion should be kept in places of worship and not forced on people and certainly not advertised and glorified.


Perhaps we should get loudspeakers and start spouting out Atheist messages, similar to the bus campaign a while back..?

maxdunbar.files.wordpress.com...

www.spada.co.uk...


Or perhaps playing John Lennon's Imagine over the church bells.... that would be cool.
www.atheistbus.org.uk...



Imagine there's no Heaven It's easy if you try
No hell below us Above us only sky
Imagine all the people Living for today

Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too
Imagine all the people Living life in peace





[edit on 17/6/09 by blupblup]

[edit on 17/6/09 by neformore]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup
Or perhaps playing John Lennon's Imagine over the church bells.... that would be cool.

Yes, though you'd need an amazing carillon to get the Cmaj7 chord in the second bar of the verse.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:05 AM
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Next move for them, impose an islamic school, and then a halal market, and then what?

I don't remember Christians disturbing muslims in Saudi Arabia with their churches. they simply cannot build them.

Where's the win-win situation? Muslims have hidden behind their traditions for too long, they gotta evolve and do something to fade in with the local folks, not trace a religious line between John and Ahmed... It's soooooo full of hypocrisy trhat makes me sick



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:06 AM
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I won’t say thanks but I will give you a tip; don’t make assumptions about people you don’t know.

With regards to your edit, I don’t live anywhere near any churches so I don’t hear bells at all. Thus me being used to them is not an issue, my opinion is based on empathy of others not my own personal taste (I don’t particular like church bells btw and I’m an atheist not a Christian).

You can change people’s posts all you like but it is a fact that a bell is a more neutral sound than a prayer, church bells are used for more than just religious reasons (or telling the time) and they have been accepted into the culture (call it being “used to” them if you like but it doesn’t the fact that they are accepted).

If you have a genuine rebuttal to my argument I will do my best to respond; in the future however perhaps it would be worth considering that such glib attempts at being witty and clever usually end up making one just looking like an arrogant silly person.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:09 AM
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anyway, who gives a damn? every guy with a brain understands that you can't believe in that crap. Walking on water or rising from the dead is a little far-fetched.
Every religion is stupid. No, my fellow ATSers, i don't give a damn about your sensitivity, because I am sooooo disappointed by the way religion hampers our path to the Ultimate Knowledge.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by jackflap
reply to post by Rook1545
 


Hearing church bells and hearing someone rant in another language are two different things. Try this link and listen. Imagine that noise bellowing throughout your hometown.

atheists.groups.vox.com...

You have to be kidding me.


I think it sounds great, especially when sung by an elder in a very acoustic area.

What annoys you about it? That it is in a language you don't understand? That it is something you don't understand? From a culture you don't understand?



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:10 AM
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Alright then. Let's all bury our heads in the sand and pretend that we are not being forced to accept the eventual invasion of the very same ideology that we know will be our demise. How far will we let it go? When our women are forced to wear curtains from head to toe so we don't insult our new neighbors? As we listen to the muslim call to prayer five times a day and pretend it doesn't bother us because we are held to a higher standard here.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:12 AM
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Well....how did they do in your opinion?






[edit on 17/6/09 by blupblup]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:17 AM
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Also to add....

For 83, YES 83!!!!!

This guy has an amazing voice.

I think it's quite haunting actually.



Now i wouldn't want it blasted out for all to hear, many times a day....and that's not because of the religion of the chap....it's because if i want to hear it or go to church/temple to hear it....that is my choice....just blaring it out....isn't.




[edit on 17/6/09 by blupblup]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:19 AM
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Well guys, I guess you know what this calls for... there's only one way to combat this issue. All churches in all countries - especially the muslim countries need to throw out the church bells and replace it with a 5 minute Christian country 'n western song. Then sit back, pump up the volume and just "MwuAhahaAAaaaa!"

OBVIOUSLY I'm just kidding so hold off the beheadings and crucifixtions :p



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:27 AM
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Wow this is all still going on.

Being nice and trying to approach things equitably just doesn't seem to work - so let's try this.

I'll keep my mouth shut about mosques doing calls to prayer in my neighborhood when I have the right to vacation in Saudi Arabia, walking down the street, half naked, carrying a gallon of vodka, in a shirt that says "Jesus was a porn star", while paying local women singles as they disrobe publically for my amusement and their financial gain.

If they can bring Islam to Daytona Beach then we can bring Spring Break to Riyadh. Right?



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:42 AM
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This is the 21st century. There is no need for this call to prayer to be broadcast (or for Church bells to alert christians). Buy a watch.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:42 AM
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You would think so but that isn't how it works over there. They are not held to a higher standard as we are. You see we are being told that we should be sensitive to others beliefs and accept their invasive cultures and ideology. Put a big smile on and buy a blanket to cover your women. You can make eye holes for them and be sure to not shave anymore. Wouldn't want to upset our friends. Oh and be sure to enjoy the audio that we will be forced to listen to as we keep our smiles wide and pretend that we are setting high standards for the world. We are so smart aren't we?



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by Rook1545

Originally posted by mapsurfer_
Agreed. That is the equivalent of christian church bells ringing in a Muslim city somewhere in the world. While I am all for religious freedoms, there is certain respect that religions need to adhere to, in order to avoid provoking civil strife.


Which they arlready do. There are plenty of Christian churches in Muslim countries and they ring their bells. No one has a problem with it.

It is manufactured civil strife. People fear and hate what they don't understand. This is really no different than some churches playing 2-3 minute long songs on thier bells, or towns with clock towers playing songs every hour (I have one of these in my town).


Ask Israelis if they like being woke up at 6am to a blasting screaming Arab every morning. If they did this in my town I would remove that loud speaker just so it didn't wake me up every morning. Its noise pollution and cities have noise ordnances.

Church bells are soothing but a screaming Arab not so. We cant have signs of Christianity in any government places during Christmas yet they get to blast their prayer over a loud speaker everyday through out the whole city.

If this is allowed then everyone in the town needs to wake up at 5:45 am and open their windows and turn on their car stereos and home stereos to Metalica and blast it as loud as they can and go back to bed.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 07:59 AM
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Hey you gotta admit though, Muslims are the perfect sandpaper to be used all around the world to cause division. The sad thing is that the poor souls dont even know how much they're being used for that exact purpose.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:07 AM
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I personally don't see what the issue is.

I have absolutely no problem with hearing the Muslim call to prayer any more than I do church bells... or any other calling to prayer and worship.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:47 AM
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I had a big long post about how reading a few pages of this thread was like beating your head against a really stupid, ignorant and terrified brick wall...

...but this thread and the topic being discussed both show the most basic issue here: People are incredibly ignorant concerning the things which they are so obviously terrified of.

Stop hiding behind the collective result of religion/ignorance and maybe you will stop being nervous about anothers tradition and start to know the 'different' people.

I would have thought that people would be happy to live where unfamiliar tradition can be as close as down the road.

I guess that only counts if their space-baby wrote the same book yours did.




posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:51 AM
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edit: Nevermind. I was frustrated.

Let me just change this to read: A large number of posts on this thread make me very sad.

[edit on 6/17/0909 by spines]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 09:46 AM
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Personally I'm agnostic in 2 ways (i.e: the concept of god needs to be defined first and we don't really have the methods to verify his or her or it's existence)

Having said that, here are my views:

1.: Church bells vs Call to Prayer isn't the same.
The church bells basically ring every hour (and most afaik even do at quarter / half past an hour)

If I were to play a note on my guitar, that does not equal someone using vocals, because vocals carry meaning, the guitar, just carries a sound.

A muslim chanting stuff about his believes is not the same as a random priest or w/e you want to call him ringing a bell.

2.: It is funny how people say "Oh you shouldn't care because all those gods are the same".

I have a very simply question for you that think that way:

If their Gods are the same anyway, why have a call to prayer? Why not just let the muslims conform to Christianity or ''switch'' to become a Jew if they're all following the same god anyway?
I mean the church bells are already there, so it would be less of a hassle to just go follow the church bells instead of promoting some guy to loud-speaker to ''call people to pray''.




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