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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:05 PM by whatukno

reply to post by centurion1211

So in summation to your post I believe your view can be expressed like this:

No government run health care it's bad.

Keep health care private, if your rich and can afford insurance then get all the treatment you need.

If your too poor to afford insurance, please do the rest of us a favor, climb into a dumpster before you die.

Gotcha! I think I completely understand your opposition to health care in this country.

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:05 PM by BlackOps719

State sanctioned, government controlled media broadcasting????

Are you kidding me? This sounds like something straight from the playbook of Kim Jong Il. Is this not the last and final straw America? How much will you overlook? How much more will you "let slide"? Can there be any doubt now that this government is out of control and mad with power?

Maybe these propagandists can hire Baghdad Bob of Gulf War fame to come and anchor the broadcast, I doubt he is busy right about now

Shameful

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:06 PM by ag2000

reply to post by whatukno

A president makes a speech on prime time tv and so to republicans it's obviously a coup and an obvious takeover.

Since this was the only sentence you wrote that was on topic, I will ignore the rest of your rant....

This isn't about a "prime time" speech. LEARN TO READ. They will be broadcasting all day from the white house pushing the President's Healthcare plan. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE PRESS IS FOR! They SHOULD not be a mouthpiece for the administration to push their ideas and beliefs on the public. They should be presenting the President's plan and then presenting other view points. The fact the you don't get it, speaks volumes about you.

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:10 PM by whatukno

reply to post by ag2000

This is different from Fox news how?

Please, enlighten me how Fox news is not a mouthpiece (as you put it) for the Republican party.

As I have said before and you obviously haven't gotten to yet. The media is very slanted. There are right wing stations that are just as much in the pockets of the republican party as there are in liberal media.

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:12 PM by sad_eyed_lady

reply to post by whatukno

The issue is government programming of a major network with no rebuttal allowed.

His healthcare plan might be wonderful, but why not let the citizens hear the opposing point-of-view?

[edit on 6/16/2009 by sad_eyed_lady]

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:12 PM by BlackOps719

reply to post by dgtempe

This isnt about right or left.

It is about a snake oil saleman (thats right SALESMAN) taking over an entire television network to use as a platform to sell his propaganda pitch to the gullible sheep of this country.

It may as well be an infomercial featuring Tony Robbins, only instead of selling some get rich quick scheme he will be selling us our own demise into socialism.

And in order for anyone to buy into what he is selling they must already be willing to be SOLD.

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:22 PM by ag2000

reply to post by whatukno

First, I don't watch FOX News...But, show me one instance when fox news set up their news desks and broadcast all day from the white house to push a president's plan with hand picked "citizens" to sit in on a town hall meeting and basically give the president a whole day of free airtime to present an issue to the American people? No, Can't do it. That's because it hasn't happened. This isn't the typical address to the American people that all the networks carry. This is one station being picked to present the Healthcare reform bill that Obama wants to pass. I am sure they will be neutral in the whole presentation. Do you hear that? Thats me laughing because you probably really do believe they will be neutral on the issue. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE NEUTRAL!!. Believe me, they won't be. Do you think Obama would give them this deal if their weren't strings attached? That's me laughing again. They have already denied the Republican's a chance to present their side of the debate. (p.s.- I am not a republican)

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:24 PM by bismarcksea

Originally posted by Harlequin
The USA - the land where you don`t have health insurance - you die in the gutter

and obama wants to do something about that , and all you rabid-dog neo cons can do is troll?

maybe , just maybe he wants to do some good.

Buhahahahaha! If you think ANY of these fools in washington actually have YOUR best interests in mind.....then I have some wonderful beachfront property in Detriot to sell you!

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:24 PM by Darthorious

Originally posted by Sky watcher
People who have money would be taxed big time to pay for illegals health care. Hospitals are already over ran with them now. I know, My fiancées a nurse at a major hospital. The Mexicans are flooding the place, especially with new born baby's.

I know that I don't want to be paying for them.

I was thinking about this the other night and talked to a coworker about it. The good majority of them use tax payer money for a lot of different things and do not pay taxes. What if this is also a way to find and deport them?

From my past of working for the govt. if they do control health care there is a really good chance that these people who come in will be deported because the govt., I worked for anyways, did not pay for things it wasn't responsible for due to budget concerns.

Now instead of asking to see proof of insurance they'll ask to see proof of citizenship to make sure they are getting their money at the hospital. Right now the majority of hospitals have a rule of thumb not to turn anyone away because of the possibility of losing licenses (maybe one or two sympathetic souls). But if the govt. go's into the health care business this could possibly change because technically if you are a US citizen then you should have coverage if not through an employer then through the govt.

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:33 PM by centurion1211

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by centurion1211

So in summation to your post I believe your view can be expressed like this:

No government run health care it's bad.

Keep health care private, if your rich and can afford insurance then get all the treatment you need.

If your too poor to afford insurance, please do the rest of us a favor, climb into a dumpster before you die.

Gotcha! I think I completely understand your opposition to health care in this country.

In summation to your post, you obviously think government can do a better job of running healthcare, or possibly everything.

Now do us all a big favor and name just one thing government does a good job of running. Just one thing ...

But you believe that magically healthcare would be the first and only thing government figures out how to do right.

With this ABC News show, you're also about to find out what a "good" job government (obama) does with running the news.

[edit on 6/16/2009 by centurion1211]

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:35 PM by shortest man walking

and as American died,

the crowds of sheep yelled,

long live obama.

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:38 PM by glimmerman

Am I the only one not surprised here? The MSM has had a love affair with now President Obama for more than a year...seems only right that he moves them into the White House... The only difference here? Clinton had Lewinski... Obama has MSM... Clinton was getting screwed on our dime, now we are getting screwed on...our dime...

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:38 PM by prd1

Feel the CHANGE people ! You're gettin it right up the butt!
I was always tought to be careful of what you ask for , you may get it in ABUNDENCE !

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:39 PM by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
I wish them luck in selling this plan to the people.

'The People' were sold enough on Obama's hype to elect him.
I'm thinking 'The People' have turned into zombie idiots.
They'll believe just about anything.

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:40 PM by Hastobemoretolife

Dare I say it, do I dare say something to polarize people even more?

Yes, I will, I remember just before Bush got out of office the Liberals were screaming how The White House was giving Talking Points to Fox News.

Oh yea, now we have the Freaking President of the United States Taking over a Whole news channel.

Let me repeat that again. THE POTUS IS TAKING OVER THE NEWS CHANNEL FOR AN ENTIRE DAY.

Freaking hypocrites.

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:43 PM by earlywatcher

Originally posted by Maxmars
At the risk of missing the point....

I understand the passionate fun many folks have debating health 'care' but I thought the OP was about how the US Federal Government can co-opt a commercial (privately owned) media broadcast to proselytize a 'plan' proposed by a single party to overhauls an American institution and have it 'sponsored' but NOT have a dissenting opinion represented in the presentation.

As if Americans were all 'customers' of the Federal Government and this is a 'product' they are 'marketing.'

This is my objection too. Since when is a major network used to promote a government sponsored plan? or should i say a democrat sponsored plan. this eliminates debate because it pretends that other views are not worth bothering with because they are wrong.

I expect ABC is doing this because of NBC's special treat of the tour of the white house a couple of weeks ago. Can't wait to see what the not yet named media czar comes up with.

we should have expected this since these networks were shameless in their unadulterated praise of obama during the "campaign". i guess they figure they don't need to pretend any more.

just call us argentina.

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:43 PM by Maxmars

Originally posted by Loke.
Wow you US citizen should really watch out, else it will just end up like here in Denmark with free Hospital and healthcare, its pretty scaring that it got no cost. Im sure that our governtmen are in bed with Chavez also...

.Irony intended.

Best regards.

Loke.:.

[edit on 16-6-2009 by Loke.]

Well, at least for me, the fact that this is about health care isn't the issue. It's about the 'public' airwaves (irony inserted) being used to blatantly spew propaganda by government fiat.

Sort of like the devaluation of the dollar.

If it were about health care I would simply state that ANY so-called 'solution' to the 'crisis' in America will involve protecting the revenue stream of the medical and insurance industries..., any overtures about the health and well-being of the population are purely incidental to the money..., who gets it.., and when.

We will ALL still pay for it... just not up front. The cost will be mingled with other taxes, equally pointing to the protection of revenue streams for politically expedient corporate citizens.

Not everyone is blind to reality. (irony rejected)

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:46 PM by centurion1211

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by ag2000

This is different from Fox news how?

In every way.

Fox News never broadcast from the White House as Bush's official mouthpiece like ABC is doing for obama. Fox also may have done positive reporting on Bush's policies, but they said or acted like they were in love with Bush as ABC, NBC CBS, CNN, NPR has for obama.

Figuring out the difference yet?

Please, enlighten me how Fox news is not a mouthpiece (as you put it) for the Republican party.

As I have said before and you obviously haven't gotten to yet. The media is very slanted. There are right wing stations that are just as much in the pockets of the republican party as there are in liberal media.

Oh, we heard you, just don't happen to agree. Fox News is ONE network compared to all those I listed above. If you want to throw in Rush's EIB radio "network", now we're up to 2 conservative media outlets - again compared to the many I mentioned above. Want me to throw in all the liberally slanted "newspapers" like the NY and LA Times and Washington Post?

Want me to also throw in all the other "entertainment" types like Oprah and the rest of Hollywood?

Come on, anyone completing grade school should be able to do the math on this ...

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 01:00 PM by ZindoDoone

If you have not figured out why they are doing this in just this manner, all you have to do is think how the Dems new 'Fairness Doctrine' was ignored by many and out right dead on arrival in Congress. So now the PTB are taking full advantage of this fact and deciding to use the media to their advantage and not worry one whit that this is patently wrong. They have NO HONOR!! Makes me wonder if this wasn't planned for just this use!

Zindo

reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 01:02 PM by FlyersFan