Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition, page 61

reply to post by Mikeraphone

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The Timewave measures the big picture. That's from all perspectives and experience. So that's the present, the past, and the future. That means it measures novelty that's not only experienced (and known about concurrently), but novelty that affects the future and subsequently realized in hindsight. Decisions made in some secret room or in some lab can contribute to the collective 'emergence of new connectivity' just as much as a pandemic, news of war, the internet gaining more ground, etc. So what is not considered 'collective' now could in the future be considered nothing but collective. (Example - October 7 last year didn't really have huge meaning while experiencing it, but taking into consideration the year that followed, it was most certainly a collective shift given more and more people have become affected by those events since).

McKenna once said, 'we travel into the future using only our rear-view mirrors.' We can't know everything occurring in the present instantly, and we certainly can't know much of anything about the future BUT this is where we are headed - that is, knowing everything NOW. As the wave tightens, that's the infinite connectivity we approach via technology, consciousness, and god only knows what else.

He also called zero date 'The Great Attractor' meaning that it's not that the universe began from a singularity (Big Bang) and is approaching a state of disarray, the universe is approaching a similar kind of singularity where infinite complexity is achieved. That point in 2012 pulls us along towards it, therefore the connection between now and then has always existed.

Picture this, we're a mountain climber stuck in a precarious position on a cliff-face, and someone at the top is holding our rope and is pulling us up. The rope (the timewave) rests on the cliff and takes the shape of cliff's side and grabs tightly at each jagged edge - the rope experiences all edges at once, but we don't until we reach each one on our way up. And it all gets put into perspective once we finally look down and realize that, holy crap, the rope nearly snapped on that edge, and that edge, etc.

Zero date could either be the moment where we meet the force pulling us along, or the moment where the rope finally snaps.

So the rope and the cliff are givens, they're unchanging. The only things that change are our experience of both and whether or not we have hope or fear on our way up.

What I'm saying is that Timewave shifts are indeed shifts, no matter how obvious or intangible the shifts are. And I don't feel that the phrase 'hindsight is 20/20' really takes away from Novelty Theory. After all, the whole point of the Timewave is to show that there's more to our experience of time than science has so far been able to explain, and that time follows cycles and our experience of it is approaching a crucial moment. To see this we have to scrutinize the present and the past while comparing it with the wave.

To be honest, I had to explain the October 7, 2008 'tipping point' for months after it occurred because no catastrophic event happened on that day. But as time progressed I didn't really have to say anything further because it became quite clear what happened. I think that's what already happening now with this shift.

Originally posted by Evasius
reply to post by Mikeraphone

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Decisions made in some secret room or in some lab can contribute to the collective 'emergence of new connectivity' just as much as a pandemic, news of war, the internet gaining more ground, etc. So what is not considered 'collective' now could in the future be considered nothing but collective. what happened.

So what is to stop the 'powers that be' from taking their decisions on days that do not show large shifts in novelty ? e.g lets say they checked the timewave last year and saw the date in october as a big dip and then avoided any decisions on or near that date. If you want to keep the population confused then you are not going to go along with their expectations.

If you know that a large group of people are following a predictive program then you have the tools to totally change their perception by doing the opposite of what they expect.

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

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The answer to this is based on my faith in the supremacy of the TAO.Like an outside worker,you may have alternates but you can only put 'the plan' in motion when you know for sure what the weather is and the further you forecast the sketchier it gets.

We seem to also influence the process as well with united intentionality,a co-creation,which seems to place us in some central role.

The trick is to not have a mass delusion based on the PTB's agendas (TV spectacle belief for instance) but our own,like survival.To me it is no mystery,if I want to know what to do I throw the I CHING to get a view far more precise and instructive than TWZ,but that is like a small private thing and TWZ is the big picture in template form.

Originally posted by trueforger
reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

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The trick is to not have a mass delusion based on the PTB's agendas (TV spectacle belief for instance) but our own,like survival.To me it is no mystery,if I want to know what to do I throw the I CHING to get a view far more precise and instructive than TWZ,but that is like a small private thing and TWZ is the big picture in template form.

To be introspective by throwing the Iching and gather knowledge on one's self can be microcosmic. Your self can reflect the Universe in the metaphysical. I use Alfred Huangs version for reference, and sometimes you pick up keywords and themes which relate not only to your self - but to your closest friends and when you look hard enough, to the world as well.

If everyone on this thread threw the Iching and stated their position, perhaps we could see trends and pattens.

Originally posted by JRSB

Originally posted by trueforger
reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

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The trick is to not have a mass delusion based on the PTB's agendas (TV spectacle belief for instance) but our own,like survival.To me it is no mystery,if I want to know what to do I throw the I CHING to get a view far more precise and instructive than TWZ,but that is like a small private thing and TWZ is the big picture in template form.

To be introspective by throwing the Iching and gather knowledge on one's self can be microcosmic. Your self can reflect the Universe in the metaphysical. I use Alfred Huangs version for reference, and sometimes you pick up keywords and themes which relate not only to your self - but to your closest friends and when you look hard enough, to the world as well.

If everyone on this thread threw the Iching and stated their position, perhaps we could see trends and pattens.

Interesting points.

So, does the TWZ graph represent a cumulative prediction of novelty based on a kinda average 'as if' everyone had thrown their own i ching. ie. a big dip in novelty on the TWZ is equivalent to most people, on average, also experiencing a prediction of novelty in their personal readings ?

I like the idea of us all throwing the dice/yarrow sticks for a particular day and comparing that with the TWZ predictions. Looking back at this thread we obviously need to 'get our heads around' what it actually represents rather than all the guess work that has been going on.

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

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One could ask I CHING straight up,"Is TWZ valid?"This is one thing I have never personally felt like asking.I'm kind of a screw up,not following advice and such.

When I CHING gives an answer,you are obligated to act and are judged by how well you do.I have been called the fool on more than one occasion by I CHING for not getting it.Born under a bad sign,I prefer to muddle along.Someone else with more of whatever it takes ought to do this.

PS Also you're not supposed to believe anything I say just on my authority or Evasius' for that matter even Terrence said that repeatedly.(About the one thing he said in each lecture was not to trust him,p-head and all.)It has to resonate within to be true for you,here,now.And that's what the I CHING does as well.Despite it's all knowing aspect,it still REQUIRES a person to consult to speak.

[edit on 8-11-2009 by trueforger]

Originally posted by trueforger
reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

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When I CHING gives an answer,you are obligated to act and are judged by how well you do.I have been called the fool on more than one occasion by I CHING for not getting it.Born under a bad sign,I prefer to muddle along.Someone else with more of whatever it takes ought to do this.

PS Also you're not supposed to believe anything I say just on my authority or Evasius' for that .............
[edit on 8-11-2009 by trueforger]

I'm not sure what you mean by 'obligated to act', would you also say we are obligated to TMZ (in a concious way as opposed to a pre-determined way). And the judging part, is that more like karmic judgement or personal judgement ?

Dont worry, i only believe personal experience and TWZ has'nt proved anything at all to me so far, my comments are a little on the sarcastic side when they relate to TWZ. On the other hand, my experience with i ching, coincidence and syncronicity incline me to put some value on those systems. It's just a matter of keeping an open mind, asking questions and having confidence when to trust and not to trust my perceptions.

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

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Personal self-judgment and than confirmed in the external world by synchronicity or success.

Like my 'Trash Muse' if I ignore,the good stuff stops calling to me.

Originally posted by trueforger
reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

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if I ignore,the good stuff stops calling to me.

I can relate to that, it's as if what you focus on acts as a trigger. E.g. when i think about coincidences/give them more than a passing nod, they happen more.

I'm commenting more on this thread post prediction when nothing seems to have happened because that weekend was full of syncronicity for me, as was the few years following reading 'Cosmic Trogger' by Robert Anton Wilson and his introduction to me of the No. 23.

So i'm thinking more along the lines of the time wave can be made fit when you focus enough on it to make it a trigger.

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

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YES!! This is the curious part.We are somehow part of the running of the show now.Wasn't always this way,like when there were no humans.Or personal computers and internet.We have/been elevated (ourselves?)to some sort of priveleged position as a co-creator.And we here on sites like ATS are at the cutting edge.IF we act in accord and with the TAO we will be able to overcome TPTB who are obviously anti life.

I CHING is ALWAYS pro life in answer to ALL my inquiries.So must be the TAO.

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