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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 04:58 PM by lpowell0627
reply to post by octotom


I've read about 14 books or so on the subject and the dates range from Jul 7 th - July 12th 2009.

The most common date I saw noted was July 9, 2009. That is supposed to be exactly 1260 days (the reign of the Anti-christ as being the catalyst) prior to 12-21-2012.

At least that's what I read. There are different dates all over the place because there are some scientists/researchers that differ on when the Mayan Calendar actually ends. Then, of course, which prophet you choose to believe also determines the dates.

**But I've said this all along: We are all saying the same thing and different dates only months or days apart mean nothing when they all have the same outcome!!


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:13 PM by blujay
Originally posted by eniac
reply to post by Evasius


I read your post on Flight 447 and Timewaves, and it's gibberish.

Total pseudoscience.

I suspect the whole thing's a joke-- nobody capable of doing the research could possibly take it seriously.

You're grabbing broad, vague concepts from all over science and history, pushing them into the theory willy-nilly wherever they will fit. And correlating the deaths of aviators from a couple hundred years ago with the recent Air France crash is utterly baseless.

Humbug.


Unfortunately our new vibration will not support these types of thought forms to exist. There are other places which will be more adaptive to your attitude.



reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:22 PM by eniac
Originally posted by blujay
Originally posted by eniac
reply to post by Evasius


I read your post on Flight 447 and Timewaves, and it's gibberish.

Total pseudoscience.

I suspect the whole thing's a joke-- nobody capable of doing the research could possibly take it seriously.

You're grabbing broad, vague concepts from all over science and history, pushing them into the theory willy-nilly wherever they will fit. And correlating the deaths of aviators from a couple hundred years ago with the recent Air France crash is utterly baseless.

Humbug.


Unfortunately our new vibration will not support these types of thought forms to exist. There are other places which will be more adaptive to your attitude.


i've eaten now so the blood-sugar is up and i am in more clement mood.

but i still say the whole thing's hokey.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:23 PM by caitlinfae
reply to post by eniac


I'm sure you're aware that Evasius has put a massive amout of time and effort into all his threads, as you will have read them all....right? To dismiss his work as horse manure is really immature, and downright rude actually. Dismiss it if you like....I'm not saying that you have to agree with anything....but at least be respectful to someone who has worked so hard on this.

Perhaps you would like to quote your sources, and put forward more of your own theory of how it all *doesn't* fit? One example isn't really enough.

This is all an investigation. No-one is preaching this subject as gospel, least of all Evasius.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:23 PM by lpowell0627
reply to post by eniac


Haven't you ever heard the saying:

"History repeats itself."

That saying exists for a reason (because it's true). This just makes it into a graph.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:07 PM by eniac
Originally posted by caitlinfae
reply to post by eniac


I'm sure you're aware that Evasius has put a massive amout of time and effort into all his threads, as you will have read them all....right? To dismiss his work as horse manure is really immature, and downright rude actually. Dismiss it if you like....I'm not saying that you have to agree with anything....but at least be respectful to someone who has worked so hard on this.

Perhaps you would like to quote your sources, and put forward more of your own theory of how it all *doesn't* fit? One example isn't really enough.

This is all an investigation. No-one is preaching this subject as gospel, least of all Evasius.


the theory, as presented, is plainly ridiculous, and I frankly find it worrying that a certain number of people will swallow it. it's important that humbug theories are called out as such, particularly when they're allied with subtlety. And this is subtle: a load of impressive-looking graphs and solid-seeming 'research', plenty of dates, facts and figures, which can snow-blind the unwary.

It's downright dangerous to have people running around believing these stupid theories. Worrying about the 'end of the world' in 2012: God knows what some lunatics will do as 'The Date' draws near. Remember Heavens' Gate around the turn of the millenium??

Moreover, the failed, drink-soaked shyster who first dreams up these theories (not the OP-- I don't doubt his/her bona fides, though I believe them profoundly misguided) laughs all the way to the bank. Which I find offensive.



reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:07 PM by DangerDeath
reply to post by Spirit Warrior




The interesting thing in the book is the correlations in the timewave from a few points in our past. Like the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor directly coinciding with the surprise attack on 911.


Are you sure the "surprise attack" on Pearl Harbor was really a "surprise attack"?

There are sources that confirm Roosevelt knew it was pending, even to date, only the commander of Pearl Harbor was not informed about it. It suited R agenda of entering WW II. It was a calculated sacrifice. It made Americans "angry" and "berserk".


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:10 PM by Jim Scott
It's a great topic, and the posts covering this are many. Your post here www.abovetopsecret.com... while interesting and all, is relatively the same subject and graphs. It's not my place to make a recommendation, but I would suggest it be covered in depth on it's own website, with particularly interesting noteworthy references made here on ATS, rather than reposting and reposting what is essentially the same TWZ info.

That being said, I also have a question. I noticed on the DOS screen that there is an apparent input for the zero point. If I am correct in this assumption, the zero point is flexible, and could be set at any date other than 2012. Does the graph determine the 2012 end zero date, or is it an input from the computer operator?

(I was wondering if Blossom Goodchild and her hoary band of soothsayers were privy to this new foretelling of worldwide change?:lol

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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:11 PM by DangerDeath
reply to post by ActuallyActuary




I was wondering too, why is this nonsense so attractive to so many people. My answer is: boredom. We all need something fresh and exciting to happen to us periodically. Even if only in imagination...I was wondering too, why is this nonsense so attractive to so many people. My answer is: boredom. We all need something fresh and exciting to happen to us periodically. Even if only in imagination...


No man, what people need is an "interpretation" of events...

Understanding history is the point here. That's what this is about.

Understanding.

Knowledge.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:22 PM by misfitoy
reply to post by Evasius


Well holy cow... you just started this thing and it's already well into the 5th page!

This is an interesting topic and I look forward to keeping up with it to see how things pan out ~ as well as learning things along the way.

Thank you Evasius for all your 'time' and efforts.



reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:38 PM by eniac
Originally posted by caitlinfae
Originally posted by eniac


Moreover, the failed, drink-soaked shyster who first dreams up these theories (not the OP-- I don't doubt his/her bona fides, though I believe them profoundly misguided) laughs all the way to the bank. Which I find offensive.



You do know that Terrence McKenna is dead, don't you? What do you know about him that persuades you to label him with this description? Again....pass on your sources and we can discuss.


I had no idea... how could I? Why would I know who he is?? Why would I waste energy on this stuff?? Why would anyone, is what I can't figure out.

What sources do you want?? An academic paper, perhaps, refuting a theory which selectively takes events of (Western) historical significance, then searches a specific timespan for anything which remotely resembles it. You don't need a paper to refute that- common sense will suffice.

The theory affirms itself. If you want to find 'evidence' for correlation between wars, you won't find many periods of given time in human history where there haven't been wars. Same with plague. Same with innovation. Same with all general 'events'.


And besides, what is an 'event'? Is the Space Age an event? The Nuclear Age? When was the defining moment for the latter-- perhaps the date that Radium was isolated, or the date that some German chemist first crunched the numbers to figure out the potential for nuclear energy. Or maybe it was the day that the first prototype exploded in Los Alamos, or the day that the Little Boy went down.

I'll tell you the defining moment that a proponent of this theory would cite: whichever coincided best with whatever remote event they wanted to correlate it with. And we're spanning the thick end of a century there.


In any case, it's up to the proponents to win around the skeptics by citing successful predictions/correlations, not the other way around. Otherwise we'd just swallow anything. Which some people around here seem to do anyway. Asking me for 'sources' to refute the theory is getting the whole thing backasswards.

Sorry-- it's a Fail. Big time Fail.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:52 PM by caitlinfae
reply to post by eniac


I guess if you didn't know that Terrence McKenna is dead, then it's fair to say that you haven't really investigated this subject too deeply, as this is usually one of the first facts to surface about him and his work, and it's really very sad that he's no longer around.

I didn't expect academic anything from you, or anyone else....I thought maybe you would be willing to be a little more precise in your criticisms, and work on some of the actual alignments talked about here. It's ok if you don't want to, but I think that we have bickered back and forth enough to spoil the thread and should leave it here. Again, this thread is all about investigation, not gospel, and my belief is that the sceptic also has a responsibility to investigate. Relying on the believer for proof will never work from your mindset, and is just lazy.

Why not start another thread about debunking this, and we can leave Evasius alone here for something more constructive?


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:57 PM by Perseus Apex
reply to post by Evasius


The graqhs seem to explain the progress of the End of the NWO.

Look for a lil 'bump' from the 'people' to upset this agenda.

This bump will ultimately become of a shove and then all hell breaks loose. After the storm, the people will start anew with a new respect for one another. They 'realized' they were all in the same fishbowl of ignorance being fed by 'another'.

Who would have thought?

Makes one wonder how humans, as a whole, ever earned the term homo-sapien. It's seems quite absent though I see a swell just ahead and the coast is receding. Any idea what's next? If you don't see it by now, you do feel it? Of course you do. We all have a Choice.

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