reply to post by aliengenius
The thing to remember here though is that even in the most random events on our planet, simple mathematical equations still apply. I talked about
this in the other timewave thread a little bit more. Everything from crickets creeking at night to city traffic adhere to very basic mathematic
equations. Here is some reference material to consider. I posted some of this in the other Timewave thread
Small World Phenomenon
Six Degrees of Separation
The small world experiment comprised several experiments conducted by Stanley Milgram examining the average path length for social networks of
people in the United States. The research was groundbreaking in that it suggested that human society is a small world type network characterized by
short path lengths. The experiments are often associated with the phrase "six degrees of separation", although Milgram did not use this term
For a great example of this in practice, check out The Oracle of Bacon
The object of the game is to start with any actor or actress who has been in a movie and connect them to Kevin Bacon in the smallest number of
links possible. Two people are linked if they've been in a movie together. We do not consider links through television shows, made-for-tv movies,
writers, producers, directors, etc. For example, you might wonder how Alfred Hitchcock can be connected to Kevin Bacon. One answer is that:
Alfred Hitchcock was in Show Business at War (1943) with Orson Welles, and Orson Welles was in A Safe Place (1971) with Jack Nicholson, and
Jack Nicholson was in A Few Good Men (1992) with Kevin Bacon!
Then we can count how many links were necessary and assign the actor or actress a Bacon number. Bacon numbers higher than 4 are very rare. In the
example above, Alfred Hitchcock has a Bacon number of 3. The Oracle uses the data from the Internet Movie Database and can give you the shortest path
from every actor and actress that can be connected to Kevin Bacon.
I checked it out because I thought that it couldn't be possible that a bacon number of 4 would be rare. Actually this is correct. I thought of
every actor I could at the time and all of them were below 4. Much less than the 6 degrees of separation concept previously linked to. But this very
basic concept shows how mathematics still apply to the most random things you can think of.
The reason this is important with relation to the Timewave is this. If everything we consider random in the natural world still follow precise
mathematic equations, then it isn't so far-fetched to consider the possibility for time to also follow very precise, underlying mathematic equations.
When you think about it, this would actually make sense.
Noone knows how McKenna's equation might REALLY apply to the natural world. He might be wrong, he might be close, he might be exactly right. But
the correllations with world events throughout history and the timewave are pretty difficult to just outrightly dismiss. His theory is difficult to
prove from a scientific standpoint, this is true. But this is time we're talking about. Time is difficult to study and scientifically quantify
anyway. So are things like gravity and dark matter. But people seem very eager to apply math to these things to explain or otherwise test their
existence in a mathematic setting.
For example, mainstream science is pretty confident that things like black holes and white dwarfs exist out in space somewhere because we can observe
them indirectly and do the math to prove the possibility is there for such things to exist. But we have never directly observed either. Yet, we
think we have a good enough level of scientific understanding about these things to be confident enough to say they exist when we actually don't even
know that yet. McKenna has been chastized and disregarded as a crackpot over the years. But what he did was no less than what mainstream science
does to explain black holes and white dwarfs when we can't directly observe them. We can apply mathematics, we can theorize about how the underlying
phenomenon would probably operate. We can't really do anything more to prove the existence of something if we can't directly observe it.
McKenna's ideas of how to explain time were very unconventional and, let's face it, different. Certain attributes of novelty theory are obviously a
little "out there", even I will say that. But he really gave us some perspective on how unconventional thinking can at least start to explain
things we just don't understand yet. Especially when mainstream science has such a hard time trying to figure these things out. And sometimes even
when science doesn't even make the effort in the first place.
We don't really know how accurate McKenna's zero date prediction is until that date comes and goes. Some people claim he was off by years. Some
people think he's off by days or months. Of coarse, these people also claim that their math is correct and McKenna's is wrong when we have no real
way of knowing who is right and who is wrong. Thus, they are no more correct than he was.. But even being able to pinpoint zero date is difficult
because we don't know how accurate McKenna's math was. Thus, herein lies the dilemma..
This is why "Novelty Theory" is still just a theory. But when you consider the ability for everything in the universe to be explained
mathematically, it isn't such a stretch to understand why McKenna would attempt applying a static mathematic equation to how time operates as a
static, ever-present aspect of our reality. It might sound like far-fetched "hippy cr4P". But the reason I think McKenna's ideas were important
is because it really shows how very "out-of-the-box" style thinking can really give us some perspective on natural phenomenon we don't fully
I even think we're starting to discover things scientifically that in some ways give credence to some of his ideas. Things like non-locality, the
zero point field, supersymmetry, etc.. And particle accelerators like the Large Hadron Collider might give us a little more perspective on whether or
not he was right. We might even discover different dimensions underlying our own.
But here is another aspect of novelty theory I've always wondered about..
After McKenna's theory was disseminated around the world, would the zero date then be different than the one he predicted just by our knowing about
it? I think this is a very interesting question. Maybe his predicted December 2012 zero date was correct before his theory became widespread
knowledge but has since changed. If we start really understanding time better and better from a scientific standpoint, would it not change the entire
equation? Like Evasius has said before, the timewave is not exactly set in stone.
And if novelty is supposed to represent a static, non-changing state of the universe as a whole, why would it seem to correllate so closely to events
in human history in particular? This is one reason I made my last post. It could be that we are the ones biologically projecting our own existence
as a group subconscious. And, just like I said before, when you think about it this would help explain everything from psychic abilities to SRV to