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reply to post by stereologist
Thanks for reinforcing my claim that you are nothing more than a book burner.
I'm a few other things. I'm an excellent cook, and a Philip K. Dick fan!
Did somebody burn your book? Did you even write one?
I have a pretty good understanding of the basic principles involved, and that's good enough for me
I find people like you, who come into threads they clearly have no interest in, only to distract and insult, truly repugnant. Why don't you start your own tread, challenging the scientific basis of TWZ, or denying the claims of TWZ? I'm sure you'd find takers, and what's more, you'd be squarely on topic!
The McKenna brothers arrived at the 2012 end date by using fractals. Starting from a table of differences between one hexagram and the next, they developed a Mandelbrot fractal in which each level is 64 times greater then the one below it. They then laid this fractal pattern on top of a time scale. The peaks and troughs of the pattern relate to the level of connectedness or novelty in any span of time, whether it covers a day, millennia or even since the beginning of time. By matching the levels of the pattern with key periods in history, they determined it would fit best if the end of the time scale was December 22, 2012.
The final 80 or so pages of their Invisible Landscape (1993) describe the complicated mathematics and methodology they employed. A base period of roughly 67 years was discovered (all calculations are rough, but not inaccurate). 2012 minus 67 years = 1945, a year of great change 2012 minus 4,300 years (67x64) = 2300 BC, the beginning of historical time 2012 minus 275,000 years (4300 x 64) = the emergence of Homo sapiens 2012 minus 18 million years (275,000 x 64) = the height of the age of mammals 2012 minus 1.3 billion years = the beginning of life on our planet
I believe this may be what you're pretending to be asking about.
I do not, by the way, support censorship. I just think you are quite obviously a troll.
To equate having a problem with a troll, with book burning greatly overstates your importance, contribution to society, and my action of suggesting that you leave, and I have to ask, again, did you write a book?
So now you want to invoke a straw man argument in an attempt to pretend that you demanded censorship. Sorry, but you are an unrepentent book burner.
I suggest that you start with McKenna's work, study that, point out any flaws you find in his math...bring them up for discussion in a civil manner, etc.
I'm asking a trivial question. What is the fractal dimension of the plot?
People are repeating without thinking that the plot is fractal. I am asking the fractal dimension.
Do you know what this means? Do you understand the implications of the question?
No, your contention that my suggestion that you leave a thread you have no real interest in and merely hope to be disruptive and combative in is not at all like book burning. It inflates your importance, overstates my action, and really isn't even similar. /quote]
That's not a very good cover up for your "book burning" intent. You demanded censorship. You can't handle the fact that TWZ is a hoax. You don't want a discussion about the hoax. You don't have to participate.
The timewave is definitely real...
Originally posted by Zagari
Let's ignore him.
not that immature. I'd call it common sense. Take a peek at the profile of stereolosist. Nearly every single post is in the 2012 forum, debunking this that or the other. There is barely any other contribution. I've been ignoring his/her posts for ages because of this. Who has this much time in real life, to be such a prominant "debunker" unless you're being paid to do so as a job? Suspicious? You're damn right he/she is. Way too much debunking in 1 subject, to prove everyone as wrong as he/she possibly can, and not enough contribution to a community as a whole.
Originally posted by JohnySeagull
Originally posted by Zagari
Let's ignore him.
seems very immature* zagari.
(replace * with any of the following: abusive, childish, rude, vengeful, admitting defeat, bullying)
'this is my club and i will decide who gets to participate' - wrong response methinks
edit on 9-6-2011 by JohnySeagull because: (no reason given)