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Originally posted by Cecilofs
reply to post by xweaponx
Yep I get what you are saying - basically that it seems like things are more novel now because news is so commonly available that its easy to see a flood on the other side of the world. 100 years ago you couldn't do that because of communication delays.
Well 100 years ago there were a lot of things you couldn't do, like turn on a TV, or email someone on the other side of the world. That's because novel things have constantly been invented. The rate at which technology is progressing is exponential - that means it is speeding up - which is what Timewave is about.
So by your very argument you admit that novelty exists. On a large scale it is very easy to see. On a small scale when we are living through it, its harder.
There are things happening though that ARE novel - Wikileaks for example (and again regardless of whether its legit or not). Yeah there's been whistle blowers before. but there's never been whistle blowers using the internet to disseminate mass information on a number of powerful governments on a mass scale. And its never caused a revolution before. And there's never been a "cyber war" with mass hackers attacking credit card sites because of a whistle blowing website before.
Just like, there's never been a public demonstration of cold fusion before.
Just like there's never been mass scale reports of mass animal deaths before which get into the psyche of a huge proportion of the world.
And again we must look at the global consciousness - we have come from an age of innocence in a way (say 6000 years ago) where we were just starting to get a hold of things. Farming had been invented as well as writing and communication - sure its hard work setting all this up but afterwards we'll be able to live in peace and harmony forever, with all the food we need.
Now the global consciousness is thinking "Well, we're boned, we've screwed up this planet and now there's a very real chance that our entire species and everything on our planet could die". That's quite a profound change. The thing is though, it hasn't taken 8000 years to manifest - say 20-30 years ago people were starting to talk about global warming but it wasn't a big deal. Only in the last few years has this idea that maybe we won't survive this been prominent (its been brewing for a while, but its only becoming common recently).
So again, I don't think its accurate to dismiss these things as not novel. Natural disasters I am willing to bend on because ok we have seen big floods before and the nuances come down to the severity, location and time. With things like new technologies though, I can't see how you can refute that these are novel things.
Originally posted by AshleyD
In the below image, there apparently was a drop off around October/November of 2010. Does anyone know what that now relates to?
I do agree with that your saying because more technology more easier news is spread. But you can't link every event to "novelty" the only events I link are mass deaths. Anything where thousands of people die then if timewave zero had a pin point placed on that day then I support it's theory. But TWZ wasn't based on death, more based on novelty which yes happens every day it seems more frequent but it's not since news is easily shared.
Now Wikileaks, I don't know if it was planned or actually real. Because I'm my opinion wikileaks WAS bound to happen and get caught. Has the government known about wikileaks for years? Yes just like they know about illegal child porn websites in the united states. But the real question is why did they move in and shut it down on X day. What was it hiding? Because more people saw it or because the "News Media" got ahold of it. And once the new's go ahold of it, more people knew about it, then government got scared.
Mass animals deaths, there has actually been reports of mass animal deaths back in 1970. It was about the same large scale as what is happening today. But people didn't know about it like today because the news didn't report on it for a week straight and more people knew about it, more people questioned it. Now with our magnetic field reversing has been linked many many times to these mass animal deaths seem to only be effecting birds and fish and cattle. Now will it effect humans since everything in this earth does have a tie to the magnetic field.