$25 MILLION Reward for Obama's Real Birth Certificate, page 1
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:17 AM by operation mindcrime
reply to post by TrueAmerican



Am i not understanding this correctly???

They will pay (whatever the amount gets to) to President Obama??

If i prove his birthcertificate is false or if i produce the real one then i expect to be rewarded this amount!! Otherwise were is my motivation??

I really don't care if he was born in America or Antartica but for $25.000.000 might start to care.....

Peace



reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:18 AM by TrueAmerican
Originally posted by GondelleX
And be honest, money buys anything these days, so why not Obama's soul!


They don't want or need his soul, just his real, long form birth certificate. They could offer $25 TRILLION- safely, imo- cause there ain't no way he can produce it.

Edit to add:

Originally posted by operation mindcrime
reply to
post by TrueAmerican



If i prove his birthcertificate is false or if i produce the real one then i expect to be rewarded this amount!! Otherwise were is my motivation??


Well, considering all the high powered guns that have been at this a while, I'd say that's near impossible.

The point is to keep increasing the amount until it becomes such a no brainer that the American public will HAVE to see he is hiding something. And oh, here's a related thread on the mystery of his credentials:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Some clever, sharp people over there at letsrollforums.com who just like here, are always on the lookout!

[edit on Tue Jun 16th 2009 by TrueAmerican]


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:28 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by TrueAmerican





They could offer $25 TRILLION- safely, imo- cause there ain't no way he can produce it.


Which is why this is a pretty pointless gesture. They are offering money that they can't pay for an item that they know they won't get. This seems like something you would hear at a Junior High playground.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:32 AM by TrueAmerican
reply to post by Karlhungis



Hmm, you seem pretty sure they can't pay. And what makes you think they can't? Why would they take out a domain for the cause? Just for publicity? Show me why they can't pay what they are claiming, and maybe then I will accept your point!


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:44 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by TrueAmerican





Just for publicity? Show me why they can't pay what they are claiming, and maybe then I will accept your point!


I am not here to gain your acceptance. I am merely stating my opinion. You can believe whatever you want.

As to why I believe what I do... well, like I said, it feels pretty juvenile to me. They claim
We will continue to increase the amount of the reward until it is so huge....
Come on now... You honestly believe that this group of people can pay ANY sum, no matter how high it is? They can only make these claims because they know that this is a fantasy to gain attention.

This whole topic has already been drug through the media and the courts, so they know exactly what will happen. If the supreme court has already dismissed other requests for his birth certificate, there is no way that it is going to get presented under these circumstances. It simply IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Because of that, they can promise whatever they want, because it isn't going to happen.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:45 AM by JPhish
reply to post by TrueAmerican



that's not karls point. His point is, regardless of the amount, they KNOW that no one can produce the certificate. So it's really just a game they are playing.



reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:49 AM by TrueAmerican
reply to post by Karlhungis



Hey, YOU'RE the one stating you don't believe they can pay. I just asked you to provide some backup information on why you believe that. Not conjecture derived from other conjecture. I now see you can't!

So touche!


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:52 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by TrueAmerican



Give me a break. YOU started the thread. YOU believe that they can pay any sum no matter how high. It seems to me that onus should be on YOU to prove that they CAN pay it.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:58 AM by TrueAmerican
reply to post by Karlhungis



Hey now wait a minute. I never said that. They say they will continue to increase the amount. The initial amount is $25 Million. And really we have already agreed on your point. I already stated that I believe it could go as high as $25 Trillion- safely- because he can't produce the real long form validating his citizenship. The difference here is that you are stating it because they can't pay. So prove it. Don't turn it back on me.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:08 AM by Karlhungis
reply to post by TrueAmerican





The difference here is that you are stating it because they can't pay


I am stating that it doesn't matter whether they can pay or not. Like we have agreed to earlier, they won't have to pay because it isn't going to happen.

Unless they are the federal reserve, they do not have unlimited funding. So, their claim to be able to keep raising the sum means that they have no qualms about raising it beyond what they are capable of paying. If they are willing to cross that moral boundary once, then what makes you believe that they haven't already crossed it?

They already state that the point of raising it so high is to raise awareness and make people ask questions. Again, that is what this is about. It isn't about the money, it is about getting attention.

So, I don't care if they have the money or not. I don't think that they have it but it doesn't matter. You can think whatever you want. If these guys pay out $25,000,000.00 or more, I will show you proof that Santa Claus is real. (btw, I am making the Santa Claus statement because I know full well that I will never have to produce any actual proof)


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:33 AM by TrueAmerican
reply to post by 5thElement



I sent an email to that address, asking for some kind of verification that they can pay it, asked for links to funding sources and told them we would check on them.



Yeah right, like I really expect a response! If this is a hoax (could be), I'll be the first one to u2u a mod!

And btw, I did a whois at network solutions. They paid for private registration, and so note bottom paragraph:

Registrant:
AMERICAN BUSINESS EXCH
ATTN: REWARDFOROBAMASBIRTHCERTIFICATE.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA20172-0447

Domain Name: REWARDFOROBAMASBIRTHCERTIFICATE.COM

Administrative Contact :
AMERICAN BUSINESS EXCH
hp7bg5uq8jt@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: REWARDFOROBAMASBIRTHCERTIFICATE.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

Technical Contact :
AMERICAN BUSINESS EXCH
hp7bg5uq8jt@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: REWARDFOROBAMASBIRTHCERTIFICATE.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

Record expires on 09-Mar-2010
Record created on 09-Mar-2009
Database last updated on 17-Mar-2009

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS

TOTO.IPULSE.NET 66.115.129.32
CHEETAH.IPULSE.NET

This listing is a Network Solutions Private Registration. Mail correspondence to this address must be sent via USPS Express Mail™ or USPS Certified Mail®; all other mail will not be processed. Be sure to include the registrant's domain name in the address.


[edit on Tue Jun 16th 2009 by TrueAmerican]


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 09:25 AM by Berens
reply to post by Karlhungis



Obama seems to believe that the taxpayers can pay any sum, no matter how high, which he and the Dems in Congress decide to spend, so there is a certain parallelism going on. LOL.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 03:24 PM by TrueAmerican
reply to post by 5thElement



I already said I wasn't expecting a reply. But just so you know, that email has not come back with an error message... Someone got it.
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