I KNOW!!!!!!!!! they were way more sophisticated that us....we are more like that show idiocracy compared to them!

Well, they did live in caves. If you are referring to the connotation that they were awful-looking and smelly (enough to make a giraffe puke Indian food into a the used diaper of a baby skunk), then you are correct. Smart, ugly, and smelly is possible. Interesting thread. I will change my thinking. Ugly and smelly people can be smart too.

Originally posted by pluckynoonez
Ugly and smelly people can be smart too.

Thankyou, you've made my day!

Interesting thread, some nice links, a bit of information to work through.

"It's so easy a caveman can do it!"

Sorry couldn't resist. But I do agree with you, I have always looked past the cavemen stereo type because I was never convinced that for millions of years man just wandered the earth and was too stupid to do anything. The real missing link is actually the gap in time that needs to be explained. But invasions happen, wars happen, records get destroyed, dust settles, natural disasters, it's just hard to tell. This goes along with assuming the native americans were "savages" because they were thought to be stupid, and inhuman, or like cavemen. I do believe that man existed similar to how the Native Americans had lived, but obviously it was like this all over the world.

Our history would make us believe that man was just a nomadic hunter gatherer that just slept wherever he stopped. I'm sure for some it was like that, but not all. What happens to a tribe anywhere in the world untouched by modern civilization that has wisdom of the stars, nature and everything else get's "educated" by modern civlization? They get erased. I'm sure it still happens in this day in age, but I can only imagine the damage done by religious missionaries in the past that found such people, and if they didn't convert to their ways they were wiped out, or were "educated" but they labeled their past as "cavemen" or dumb savages.

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These folks maybe "knew" this. Or they were exposed to the knowledge. Were they genius enough to figure it out on their own? Maybe. Maybe not. Were they intelligent enough to put it all down in rock paintings and rock sculptures. Perhaps. I .ike to imagine that the ancient peoples knew some sh*t we don't know now.

Oh, well, it all goes along with my belief that other beings have taken us along a path of understanding, based on their assement of how we will nll react AND change, based on our development as humans.

Nuff said. We have not developed enough to be brought into the "fold"

Ignore my misspellings. That was caused by the aliens.

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Originally posted by 2theC


It feels like we ( i mean we as a collective of" civilization") can't accept that "pre-civilizatio", or hunter gatherers were extremely aware of their surroundings including that of the greater universe.

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I have never thought that people still thought they were "slow".
At least not me. There were huge steps taken during that period in term of cultural and social evolution.

Saw the same documentry on Sunday on SBS & I found it extremely interesting.

Reasonable amount of evidence to support the theory, but personally I found it just a little inconclusive from what other scientists from the fields of astronomy & arceology were saying in relation to these different studies clashing, (Of course they could be just protecing their own bacon though).

All in all if her theory turns out to be true it is an amazing discovery about man from 15,000 years ago.

I have to say I give her full credit for her efforts, because she was very passionate about her work & definately has worked very hard to solve this mystery.

Despite feeling it was just a little inconclusive, i would have to admit it is one of the more well thought out, & plausible explainations I have ever heard.

To Chantel Jegues-Wolkiewiez, great work & I hope you can pull this one through.

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Makes me think of a saying I used to hear alot as a kid, you will never be able to look to the furure till you understand the past.

There is so much of the past we either do not understand or just plain misunterpret. It is good to see this type of investigation going to shed more light on the past.

S&F!

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to be honest alot of the earth's history seems like a lie really - we're apparently advancing and are more advanced but yet everyone is sitting round watching tv, going to work, consuming crap ... how can we really be more advanced. We should be able to walk around nature of pick out everything like walking down a high street and recognising the difference between a bank and a sweet shop but we don't, infact i imagine there arent many people you know who could tell a birch tree from beech tree. With our understanding of the past, these people would have to be alot more clever than we are, they didnt have the police to call if they were in trouble or the insurance company to help them because there legs are broken they had to do things for themselves and learn.

You can see why they knew the stars because thats all they had at night, that was there television of sorts, the artists of the days, engineers generally they just put all there efforts into what they were doing unlike us because we have so much to do and everything is sped up as if its on some sort of ellicit drug.
And what for exactly? what are we achieving by working, some money from the people your going to have to give it back to anyway because money is useless unless you use it so you have to continuously gain it and give it back or it won't work and then when you do buy something its only an object it will last forever in most cases. Sure its a good back up for the fact we don't know anything especially about being able to live without society i mean what happens if it all went away, yes thats right we'd probably all die and guess what people from 3000 thousand years ago ...wouldn't. I think generally one of the main problems is that nobody blames themselves anymore so they have nothing to launch them into a different way of living because you just blame someone or something else so a little of the anger is vented out and then you continue on with what you were doing before. There's a famous quote from an actual intelligent human that goes something like "to repeat the same thing over and over and expect a different result is insanity" and thats exactly what we all do.

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S&F

Thank you, that sort of old preconception about paleolithic/neolithic man being nothing more then a barely functional brute has finally begun to be washed away by evidence such as what you present. It's a wonderful thing that people are finally able to start appreciating the achievements of their distant forerunners.

And poloticians talk about civiilized nations. I wonder where they are? Past or present.

I think it would be silly to assume that they all lived in caves, there are only so many caves to go around. Think about the fighting that would have gone on if they all lived in caves.

I am sure hunting and gathering was a big part of their lives but we have to remember that they were capable of learning or else man kind would not have developed into what it is today. I think one thing that is for sure is that those would have been interesting times to live in.