Fibonacci numbers in nature-Evidence of Intelligent Design

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The Fibonacci numbers are Nature's numbering system. They appear everywhere in Nature, from the leaf arrangement in plants, to the pattern of the florets of a flower, the bracts of a pine cone, or the scales of a pineapple. The Fibonacci numbers are therefore applicable to the growth of every living thing, including a single cell, a grain of wheat, a hive of bees, and even all of mankind.

Is math like this in nature pure chance?

Fibonacci sequences appear in biological settings, in two consecutive Fibonacci numbers, such as branching in trees, arrangement of leaves on a stem, the fruitlets of a pineapple, the flowering of artichoke, an uncurling fern and the arrangement of a pine cone. In addition, numerous poorly substantiated claims of Fibonacci numbers or golden sections in nature are found in popular sources, e.g. relating to the breeding of rabbits, the spirals of shells, and the curve of waves[citation needed]. The Fibonacci numbers are also found in the family tree of honeybees. Przemysław Prusinkiewicz advanced the idea that real instances can be in part understood as the expression of certain algebraic constraints on free groups, specifically as certain Lindenmayer grammars. A model for the pattern of florets in the head of a sunflower

Consider the sunflower

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The florets within the sunflower's cluster are arranged in a spiral pattern. Typically each floret is oriented toward the next by approximately the golden angle, 137.5°, producing a pattern of interconnecting spirals where the number of left spirals and the number of right spirals are successive Fibonacci numbers. Typically, there are 34 spirals in one direction and 55 in the other; on a very large sunflower there could be 89 in one direction and 144 in the other. This pattern produces the most efficient packing of seeds within the flower head.

Most of us have jobs, let me ask you this, does any efficient system ever just happen, or is it planned and implemented by somebody?

Fibonacci numbers in nature couldn't have just happened, a perfect math system can't evolve. Think about it.

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I rather see Fibonacci as signature of efficiency, 100% efficiency all the time! It's actually unlike any efficient system I've seen in use today, it's not just about space, it's also about energy and it could encompass everything. We've barely scratched its potential in reality.

Like if we realize the true meaning of efficiency, our best energy scientists will be rendered fools.

Look at the very basic form of matter, atoms, and anything smaller, and waves (sound, em, etc)

It is from these that consciousness evolved, and eventually the existence of living matter. This primordial consciousness could be God. He may not have actually designed life in a science lab, he may have simply thought it out by faith and love


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The mind of our loving creator is AWESOME! it blows my mind.


There are a lot of YouTube videos on this subject.

here is one


Great thread Blue Jay!

Another great video explaining this, proof of an intelligent creator leaving his fingerprint on his design big and small.

Fibonacci Sequence: Numbers of Life, Matrix of the Universe

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A creator implies a beginning, math has no beginning because it is a concept. It's kind of like saying "when did red start?", it's a rhetorical question because red never had a beginning, it always has been. Can there be an end to the color red? No, because once a concept is it just is and always will be. If there is no end then there can be no beginning, that includes math and the Fibonacci Sequence. Just because it exists doesn't always mean something created it.

Maybe this is what Jesus was talking about when he spoke his parable about the birds, flowers, and faith. Jesus was referring to how the systemic plan for nature is taken care of by an intelligent design as we can see by Fibonacci sequences just lke you have mentioned, but since God loves humans more than the birds and flowers, we should not worry about what we would eat or wear because if God will take care of the animals and plants, He will do the same and more for us.

Einstein would have said the same, imo. He said something around the lines of we can see the workings of an Intelligent Being and design through the forces of nature.

That video isn't working anymore so I am re-posting it.