British Men: Have You Been Castrated?, page 4
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:19 PM by dsm1664
reply to post by Sonya610





And yes I have a passport. I have visited Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Britian, Mexico, Canada, and Iran.



If have visited other countries, then I would assume you would taken sometime to understand the culture and the way that country ticks. Your comments make you seem as if you are just going by what you have seen on TV or read in papers.


BTW countries don't mean much if you are in Western Europe and count surrounding countries, you can cross countries the way we cross states.


Not sure what you mean?

States are areas of the same country, no?

The Oxford English Dictionary reads:

a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.


Different cultures, different faiths, different ways of life. Yes I can see how you see that as being the same as States in America.

I have been lucky enough to have visited more than 30 countries, on 5 continents. Embracing the culture and the people on each one.

Yes Great Britain has it's issues, but so does every country. And I don't feel that making judgements about any one country without having the facts is fair.

If you had lived here for say 3 months and see our country through our eye's you would not have made comments like you did.

Deny ignorance.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:23 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by mr-lizard




Great post! I feel like I understand your point better now. If I could applaud, I would!

Keep in mind, the same goes for the U.S. Empty streets don't make good T.V. Put 15 people throwing beer bottles after a basketball game in Philly, and broadcast that to the world. That is the way to get ratings, but it is in no way a reflection of the society, and most normal people walk right by the commotion without taking much notice!


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:26 PM by blupblup
Originally posted by Sonya610
I brought up the "white lads" part because so often the Brits are soooo careful to describe chavs as white/asian/black etc...



No, you brought race into it because that's what you do... you involve yourself in threads and inject your subtle racism into them.
Seen it time and time again




I consider the word "chav" to be like our word "thug"


en.wiktionary.org...


You mean OUR word thug....which we also stole.
We also use the word thug over here too....and a chav is not the same as a thug.....You have no idea what you're talking about





And if I am wrong then don't single ME out for being wrong if that term is commonly used in YOUR country that way.



It's really not..... you've just got the wrong end of the stick.







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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:26 PM by Sonya610
reply to post by dsm1664



Well I have known and liked plenty of individual Brits, but I must say I did not enjoy my brief time in London. The people were often remarkably rude. Cashiers do not say thank you, cab drivers laugh in your face if you ask them to take you to a destination that they do not deem "far enough". Generally quite rude.

I have no desire to visit all the continents of the world. I am pretty darn particular about the cultures that I choose to visit or embrace. Crime rates and courtesy factor into those decisions heavily.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:30 PM by mr-lizard
Originally posted by Sonya610
reply to
post by dsm1664



Well I have known and liked plenty of individual Brits, but I must say I did not enjoy my brief time in London. The people were often remarkably rude. Cashiers do not say thank you, cab drivers laugh in your face if you ask them to take you to a destination that they do not deem "far enough". Generally quite rude.


That's because London is quite possibly the rudest place in the UK. Come to my home town and people would be remarkably polite, even to me as a resident, i still get suprised by the generosity of the English race.

And my town is an ex-industrial town, supposedly one of those places that southerners love to hate.

Same with Liverpool, people knock the place, but ultimately it's one of the nicest, polite places in the UK.

Don't rely on your one of experience of the Uk to decide for you. Don't like London.... don't go to London.

Oh and for those who think that a person will get mugged walking through any inner city environment, that's bollocks. I've walked around Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, London at the daftest hours of the morning and i'm still here scar free.

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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:49 PM by CRB86
Originally posted by Sonya610
reply to
post by dsm1664



The people were often remarkably rude. Cashiers do not say thank you, cab drivers laugh in your face if you ask them to take you to a destination that they do not deem "far enough". Generally quite rude.


Sounds about right.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 01:38 PM by CRB86
reply to post by getreadyalready




You say they wont attack people if they think someone might be packing a weapon, but if there's 10 of the buggers, pissed-up on cheap booze (which in my opinion is THE main problem of this phenomenon) and they all have access to guns, who's going to win that one; the honest citizen with his gun, or the drunk gang with theirs?

The very last thing Britain needs is legally available guns.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 01:54 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by Majestic23



Wasn't trying to be ironic, and not suggesting kids take guns to school, but maybe teachers or resource officers should be armed.

I did enjoy your Okinawa example. It is a good example, I was just providing a rebuttal one that isn't working as well.

I spend a lot of time at Florida State University. I have a concealed permit as do most of my friends, but it is not legal to carry on school property. After the Virginia Tech episode, it became apparent that the law may need to be changed.

One armed nutjob among a helpless group is a massacre, but one armed nutjob among many armed people is something entirely different if anything at all!

As for the other response, I was not suggesting the UK arm the people. I actually said that it appears the people there have things under control, and it is only the skewed media version that makes things look worse than they are.

As for being outnumbered, I am attaching a youtube link to a Charlie Daniels song. I think it is appropriate, but it is a little older and set in the deep south, so I hope the irony is not lost. It is pretty funny around 2:30 in to it. If the armed gang was drunk as you mention, hopefully you could outwit them and they could just kill each other!
www.youtube.com...

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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 02:12 PM by Kevin_X1
reply to post by getreadyalready



im sorry but, this is just ridiculous. are you saying society would be safer if everyone had a gun? I think the poster you were trying to refute is spot on. their are tons of psychos out there who wouldn't think twice about who the # has a gun. if their was no guns, and the state could be trusted, then society would be free of all those dumb Americans killing each other every day. arming everybody doesn't solve anything, that is just backward thinking and is the reason why our counties in turmoil.

whats "enlightening" is the fact that a leader had the common sense to disarm the nation that was attacking him from the inside. it was the fault of the state that lead to their eventual takeover. there is no such thing as a completely disarmed society, but their is the hope that the people with guns will do what we expect them to, thus ridding them from society.

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