British Men: Have You Been Castrated?, page 1
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 08:42 PM by mopusvindictus
reply to post by Grumble


It's not that much worse... we just have more rural areas and open country side where the cameras, pc and other factors don't really reach as well... although are beginning to...

Cities might as well be in the same country however


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:52 AM by Exv8densez
reply to post by Grumble


Yeah cause government abuse of power only affect those with testicles. Grrrr! I can understand your outrage.

British balls should take the streets right now!


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:45 AM by Britguy
My trouser contents were intact last time I checked.

The disarming of the British population has no bearing on the issue of any possible armed struggle against an overbearing government. Firearms in public hands were few and far between and limited to sports shooters. Unlike the US where guns are so much more available.
Hell, they did such a good job, along with the compliant and ignorant press, of portraying any firearms holder as being some wannabe Rambo figure, on a hair trigger mentally and about to unleash mass death on innocent people at any time, that the equally ill informed masses were falling over themselves to condemn ownership of firearms. It was a classic mass mind control move.

Yes, we are more watched than ever before and those in power want ever more intrusive means to catalogue us and our every move, but maybe the worm is turning. The MP's expenses scandal opened them up to mass public ridicule and calls for transparency and scrutiny on a scale not seen for a long time. Much as the government wanted to gloss over it, it has been damaging and will continue to be so as more is made public. I'm not sure we need armed struggle to remove a corrupt government, although it sure would be nice to legally have some means of defence against the criminal classes instead of waiting for the police to turn up after the fact to "investigate" (a bit late if you've been shot by some criminal with an illegal firearm - who of course were not bothered by the government firearms ban!)

Anyhoos, back to the point. I see a lot of tough talk from across the pond too, but little in the way of action. Maybe people have become so dumbed down and complacently comfortable, they are afraid that a revolution might postpone the next series of American idol!
As has already been pointed out, illegal wars and the subsequent loss of American lives, the huge cost of those wars, criminal fraud in the financial sector and the taxpayer being put on the hook for the debts, while the fat cats reap bigger rewards for their failures seems to have caused little or no real outrage. What is needed to make the people angry enough to actually do something?


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:56 AM by woodwardjnr
Originally posted by Exv8densez
reply to post by Grumble


Yeah cause government abuse of power only affect those with testicles. Grrrr! I can understand your outrage.

British balls should take the streets right now!


I took to the streets, got kettled for 8 hours, got harrased by heavy handed thug police and sent on my merry way. The police state is strong in this country. we have a larger than acknowledged under class, the richer have got richer, the poorest poorer, we look to blame the chavs or the Muslims or the immigrants for all societies ills. There is no community, people fear the young.

I blame Margret Thatcher and the Daily Mail reading masses.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 05:59 AM by dsm1664
reply to post by Grumble


It's not as bad as you make it.

I live here, I see the "gangs" on the streets...however these "gangs" are generally just stupid teenagers who haven't really got any issues just hanging out. Yes you get some idiots, but you do everywhere.

A few years ago I came out of a supermarket and witnessed three 18-20 ish year olds start on a young guy in a suit. Now, I for one learnt not to tolerate crap from anyone a long time ago, because if you do, they'll keep doing it. Now these guys could of had knifes, but when seeing the guy being kicked and punched my "instinct" if you like kicked in. I dropped the bags I was carrying and shouted "WTF do you think you're doing" and did my best version of the T-1000 fast walk. I continued to shout as I approached so that anyone in the area would know that something is going on. As I got with a few meters they ran. I helped the guy up and made sure he was OK. He was, just a bit shaken. I asked him to go to the supermarket and call the police. I then (without thinking) ran after them.

I chased them for 5 minutes and one of the "gang" happened to be a bit of a chubby chap and almost collapsed out of breath. I grabbed him and he almost wet his pants. He started blubbering that it wasn't him, he didn't do anything it was the others. So I asked him why they did it, he said because the guy looked at them funny.

I had a rant at him for a bit, asking if I should kick the crap out of him for looking at me funny. Tears started to roll down his cheek, and felt sorry for him. He and his mates were just a bunch of insecure individuals that were victims of a paranoid society.

The problem here is that, and maybe in America, is that immature kids with no real worldly experience are having kids of their own. They are missing stable foundations. Thinking that money and "respect" is what life is about.

You see this stuff everyday on TV, these aren't hardened criminals, they are just kids that are making very big mistakes without understanding their actions or the consequences.

Do I know the answer to this, no. Tougher laws, no, I don't think so.

I'd like to point out that if I lived in a country where the arability of guns a rife, then I don't think I would have done the above. I myself would be more likely to be part of the paranoid society and would be a bystander in situation like this.

Just to finish off, I let the guy go and returned to the supermarket, (my bags were still there ) and went inside and asked about the guy in the suit. He never went into the supermarket, nor called the police. Just went home.

We have had a few instances in the UK where situation like mine have resulted in the intervener being killed. But I still think that if you let people walk all over you, then they will. If we lived in a society where people did not just stand and watch but intervened then I feel that the number of similar situations would decrease, as who would create a situation where they know that anyone in view would not tolerate it?

Just my 2 pence.


reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 07:03 AM by Jakes51
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Well i took to the streets in protests, and got kettled, hit with a shield and chased down the street.... Just for being unhappy about the state of my country.

The problem lies with the police. The Police in the UK are taking on elements of thuggery (treating the G20 for an example as an excuse to 'crack hippy skulls') and don't seem interested in defending the law.

Honest to god, you can watch the reality TV police shows in the Uk, and you'll see police PUNCHING suspects on TV. **

It's a way of conditioning us. A great class divide, for as long as the lower classes are made to feel stupid, dumbed down and worthless then there will be a constant flux of idiots who will take advantage of this. Then as long as we have the idiots, then we'll have the police treating us all the same.

In regards to being disarmed, this isn't really a problem, as unlike America, we don't need guns to solve problems. We're a tough breed of people us Brits...

Unfortunately our police are becoming 'Americanised' , carrying tazers and guns now, which is really sad.

** Yet the Police aren't there when you need them? Twice i've been jumped by gangs (once in a store robbery and once on a bus) and the police weren't there to help. I had to rely on my own skill and wits to get out of the situation.... I could have been stabbed or battered to death, but luckily i managed to survive.


Bravo buddy for taking it to the streets and demanding change. It's too bad your MP's aren't listening. Yeah, you Brits are a tough bunch no denying that. You will get your affairs in order sooner or later. Keep up the fight and good luck.
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