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Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by TravisYah
I'd agree that... the tribes were many... and that
The same particular group that Monopolizes the term Jew and chooses to speak for all of us is to blame...
But you would not be alone in this world as the only descendants un recognized by the orthodox sect that dominates the religion today
Originally posted by Master Shen long
There isnt a conspiracy against jews, it is just that the jews control major financial institutions thus become a target for conspiracy's.......
I wonder if the timeline shows the transformation of the Zionists, from the abused to their more recent place in humanity as heartless abusers of world freedom?
[edit on 15-6-2009 by Master Shen long]
Originally posted by mopusvindictus
lol there is no conspiracy against the jews (although some of my relatives are convinced otherwise)
Do we control the world banks either
Since the Spanish inquisition, there are a portion of Jews who dress in a manner and isolate themselves from whatever society they live in, some for good reasons like diet, others because they are extremely devoted and lack a place of their own.
None the less... those Jews don't fit in anywhere and they also don't have nearly the numbers to be intimidating... so they are different, where ever they go and people... people just don't like a group of mysterious guys wearing black that are in... but not part of the culture... mysterious and off set to the rest... it seems cultish and even frightening
That's The real reason Jews are alienated where ever they go
Normal assimilated jews are loved, they make up half of Hollywood, doctors... lawyers... smart people...
The extremist element of Jews confuses (even when totally pacifist) intimidates in a way and... most of all... simply is found to be rude, to never integrate, ever
It is both their survival trait and downfall... always outcast, the religion can hardly ever grow, it doesn't convert... always they go places and... are outcasts, by their own hand...
as a Jew, I honestly cringe when the Orthodox move to a neighborhood i'm in... I know I have weeks before the locals go from loving Jews to sprouting negative theories...
Originally posted by Maxmars
I suspect that the only ones who will define the essence of a conspiracy against the Jews, are the Jewish people.
As far as I can tell, at some point in time, every group experiences some level of conspiracy..., and the Jewish are no more exemplary than any other group.
They do, however, do a great job of traditionalizing their culture, and sadly, such things are contagious.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Clearly there has always been a conspiracy against the Jews because there are real forces opposing God i.e. Satan and the fallen angels. God made very specific promises to the Jews that have not yet come to pass. Satan wants to to thwart the coming Messianic kingdom by any means possible. This goes back to Abraham's two sons Ishmael and Isaac. Islam's Satanic origin is obvious to anyone who understands bible prophecy because of their antisemitism and mistreatment of women.
I expect this situation will be reaching a climax of biblical proportions in the very near future. The next prophetic event that is lining up exactly as the Bible predicts is the Magog invasion of Ezekiel 38-39 - where Magog(Russia) and Persia(Iran) team up to attack Israel. You can literally watch Bible prophecy being fulfilled on CNN these days. North Korea supplies Iran and now has functional nukes... And amidst the chaos in Iran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be meeting with President Dmitry Medvedev of Russia tomorrow June 16 2009.
Originally posted by open_eyeballs
i would say try the search button here on ats..ill bet you would find hundreds of pages accusing jews and defending jews in every conspiracy possible..
some have valid points while others are complete rubbish...
Originally posted by Sestias
The Roman persecution of Jews was both the cause and effect of the fact that Jews were a conquered people with a religion and culture quite different from their own. Rome had to keep the conquered down so they could not rise up and overthrow them.
Likewise when Christianity was in the ascendancy they didn't want any competition from any other faith, faction or denomination. Christians also persecuted the pagans and anyone else who thought differently from themselves.
And so the persecutions go from one century to the next. It was not until the modern state of Israel was founded that the Jews comprised a majority of the population of any country.
It was the condition of always being in the minority and always preserving their own culture within a dominant majority which both distinguished the Jews and their culture and made them feared and persecuted.
Today anti-Semitism often takes the form of hatred for the state of Israel. A lot of tired old fears and prejudices are often trotted out on ATS and in other forums, but the animosity still generally arises from the fact that Jews are no longer a conquered people subject to the laws, hatred and whims of a majority who would make them into bogeymen simply because they are unique.