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Why Do UFOs Crash?

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posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 07:19 PM
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If you all can find a very old book called 'Beyond Earth', read the part in there about the 1967 abduction of Police Officer Herbert Shirmer in Ashland Nebraska. One of these entitys tells him "your radar is making us crash". This is long before UFOlogy began intensively focusing on the Roswell case.




posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by simonecharisse
If you all can find a very old book called 'Beyond Earth', read the part in there about the 1967 abduction of Police Officer Herbert Shirmer in Ashland Nebraska.


Sure hat is the correct title?

I did find this on the History Channel
boards.history.com...

But since the case is 1967, that is 20 years after Roswell



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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Well here is a few (20 of about 100 that most do not know about),lol....

There are around 100 more reports in addition to this brief excerpt that stops in 79.



1. 1941: June-Belorussia. Near the villages of Goszevo and Dubrovki, wreckage salvaged by NKVD troops and transported to Omsk. Later moved to Zhitkur in l945.

2. 1945: Bulgaria. Wreckage again
transported to Zhitkur.

3. 1946: Romania. Again, wreckage transported to Zhitkur.

4. 1953: October- The disc-shaped UFO approximately 5 meters in diameter with a band of multi-coloured lights around its middle, crashed near the village of Grachevka west of Orenburg region in Russia. Wreckage transported to Zhitkur.

5. 1955: UFO crash in Kazahstan. Allegedly in-tact the UFO was once more transported to Zhitkur.

6. 1957: A UFO is alleged to have crashed in eastern Kazahstan on the Semipalatinsky nuclear test site. Salvaged by the military unit 52605 the wreckage was transported to Zhitkur.

7. 1958: In September a UFO some 15 meters in diameter crashed in the north-eastern part of Kazahstan. Transported to Zhitkur.

8. 1959: On January 21 in Gdynia, Poland, a hemispherical-shaped UFO around 3 meters in diameter fell into the Gdynian bay area. Observed by many witnesses it is also thought that ‘bodies were also recovered. The bodies were allegedly sent to Moscow for examination. No details of where the UFO was taken to.

9. 1962. Another UFO is alleged to have crashed near the nuclear test site at Semipalatinsk in Kazahstan. Again transported to Zhitkur.

10. 1961: April 28 near the Korb lake east of Leningrad. A UFO crashed in this area leaving behind traces on the ground.

11. 1962: A disc-shaped UFO is said to have crashed in northern Russia with the wreckage transported to the Odintsovo base near Moscow.

12. 1964: Two fully in-tact UFO’s were allegedly transferred to the US military by extraterrestrial beings.
13. The first Soviet piloted alien vehicles were flown and full contact with the extraterrestrials was made in June l964.

14. 1966: A UFO was observed to crash into the taiga setting it on fire in the Tomsk region near the village of Topolevka.

15: 1966: On June 17 near the town of Elista in the north Caucasus region of Russia, a UFO was seen to explode and fall to the ground.

16: 1968: A UFO crashed on the Kolguev Island north of Arhangelsk region of Russia. Transported to the Odintsove base.

17: 1974: A globe-shaped UFO exploded near the town of Donetsk in the northern Rostov region of Russia. Debris from the explosion examined by many people.

18: 1978: Western Kazahstan. A UFO similar is shape to a fighter aircraft was allegedly shot down by the Soviet military. UFO and its pilots were transported to Zhitkur.

19: 1978: Location unknown. A landed cylinder-shaped UFO come 35 meters long was allegedly seized by the Soviet military and transported to Zhitkur.

20: 1979: On the 17 February near the village of Zhigansk, Yakutiya republic of Russia, a disc-shaped craft with a mirror-like surface crashed into the banks of the Lena river. Alien bodies were allegedly recovered which were later autopsied at the Moscow State University.

www.burlingtonnews.net...


Are they all true? Quite a few have multiple pieces of evidence supporting them, most are not commonly known. There are many more reported crashes, those were just some.




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posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 08:18 PM
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I think everyone missed the obvious anwser, the secret weapon "Canada Geese"



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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Gravity.

Just sayin'.


Mod Edit - Mod Note: One Line Post – Please Review This Link.


[edit on 15-6-2009 by elevatedone]



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 08:34 PM
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Obviously we(the people of earth "we") are shooting them down. Watch the STS48 video. .Maybe that's why no disclosure. We need to shoot at them and that's scary.
www.youtube.com...


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posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 08:36 PM
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If they do crash by mistake, You would figure that they had a way to recover their lost technology before the "Primitives" got their hands on it. Therefore I assume their moving us ahead a little at a time by dropping some "obsolete" model out of the sky.

This of course blows away the idea of "Not interfering with another races development." [A human concept.] I wonder if Edison and Tesla and the like weren't guided by alien means to help us move forward.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 08:53 PM
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Where are all these parts going.
What a bunch of Illuminati losers.

Bill Lyne finds a 1943 part and gets first spot on "UFO Hunters" then
they tread into confusion. He found high voltsge parts disguarded
after a crash. He finds 7' cone coil forms some Los Alamos workers
must have taken the wire out years ago.

Not much.

The next time the parts were dropped off, the classified parts, the
lab workers were duly fires. The spooks wanted to know what Bill
did with the high voltage parts as they asked the salvage yard owner.
He made a drawing so he didn't have to make a purchase. The
yard owner for the forms said there were bought back by the lab
after Bill book was read.

Other that those out of 100s of listed crashes it seems that when
the parts are thrown out in some junk yard will be our only look
at UFO parts.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 08:56 PM
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You went to the site then? There is A LOT of reported crashes, a lot are not known about because a lot took place in remote parts of the planet. What were you referring to about the UFO Hunters and the high voltage wire? Can you link it?



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 09:08 PM
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Atmospheric changes?

Problems with their systems?

our spacecraft interfering with their systems?

Maybe downright errors in judgment?

Btw, there are many UFOs going around in space. Right now, above your head, there are about tens of them, each day, just flyin' around, some detected, some undetected.

The few crashes in history are REALLY very little if you think about that.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 09:10 PM
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Some have reportedly been shot down by us, as well other alien craft.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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I read somewhere that the U.S. has some type of triangulated device that shoots microwaves at UFO's, which disrupt their mechanics and make them fall to the Earth.

I can't remember for the life of me where I saw this, I will try and put a link up here soon if I can find it. But they said that there is an abandoned base somewhere in New Mexico or Nevada that has 3 buildings that are in a triangular formation from each other and they used these microwaves in order to bring the Roswell UFO down, and possibly others.

It's an interesting idea actually. I think it could be a possibility.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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I have a few theories. I believe on one hand that some crashes are due to the crafts being shot down by our own military, but why are there never any witnesses to this that report this? Do the MIBs make witnesses disappear as well? While on the other hand, I think that maybe our gravity is way different than the gravity on the Alien's planet thus the greater gravitational pull on the crafts. Again, why no witnesses? There have been only a few isolated instances of witnesses seeing a UFO crash, Kecksburg, PA for instance, but the Military & the MIBs came out in full force & carted the craft away & since there were numerous witnesses, they said it was a Russian Satellite. But, perhaps we will never know the truth unless the US Government lays it all out there.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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The more complicated a piece of machinery is the more chance for failure. We don't know how advanced the alien species that come here and crash are. Some aliens might have safer methods than others.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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UFO Hunters was on the History Channel.
This is/was season three.
The show was number 5, if I recall the info right.
The must be some ATS topics cause I remember them.

The high voltage parts were 15kv switches and a 12 position
lever switch which of course Lyne matches up with his 12
position drive compass. So perhaps the starting voltage is
15,000 volts and beefed up with the flat-transformer coil
by 1000 turns. That gives 15 million volts in one easy step.
Lord Kelvin said a million volts might be good for the wireless
transmission of electricity. Wonder if it propels metal objects.
The reputed repelling force of Teleforce by Tesla might be a
tab Illuminati mis information.


As far as shooting down a saucer.
That was William Reich of Orgone fame.
He was irritated by hovering saucers but was not aware
of the cause of his ill feelings.
He aimed his Orgone buster at a dark cloud and a sucer fell
to the ground and so did a camera filming the event as the camera
man went to rescue the pilot.

He was kept under guard something like Forestall.

Recently Bill Lyne's rifle was checked by the local sheriff
cause some shot at a saucer or UFO.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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Do you have any sources of this gun, you have brought it up before but I am anxious to view your sources for this, unless this is strictly word of mouth.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 10:12 PM
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Dang this is a popular question. Must be the 100th time it's been asked here on ATS.

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posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 10:13 PM
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correct, any technology can develop problems, i dont care how advanced they think they are..... Heck even some japanese products fail
and i consider them "alien" from what i understood, the crashes that are well documented(roswell) where either shot down by another ufo as some witnesses witnessed multiple ufos in lightning ..... again just because technology is superior doesnt mean its invicible either...... I recommend you look into bob lazars explanation on the technology as well.... once understood you will realise that the crafts operation in our atmosphere is actually quite unstable... essentially they are riding on a gravity wave that is promegrated from the craft to earth and bouncing back... so its kinda of surfing on the wave...the wave guides that are guiding the wave towards earth pulsates .... you will actually know a ufu is a hoax if the craft in the video is flying in a stable manner..... again this may sound crazy as these beings are supposed to be far more advanced then us... but in the end it does not matter how unstable or how many gs a ufo pulls or even if it goes vertical while accelerating to mach 10 from standstill because the gravity wave that evelops the craft protects the occupents and internal systems from inertia.......essentially the craft it in a space \time gravity cushion bubble which protects the occupents no matter what speed they are oprating at... this explains why we see crafts in space and atmosphere pulling of manuevars that would literally turn us into hamburger meat.... again systems do sometimes fail, and everything on these crafts from the electricity generated, intertia dampening,and propulsion depend on the reactor...if the reactor where to fail even for 1 second during a manuevar I would imagine it would cause catastrophic failure and instant death and by the time the reactor got started back up it would be too late...I beleive the shortfall in the pilots\ makers of these crafts is that they depend too much on that 1 technology\system.... they have no backups or batteries. nor are they aerodynamic they are circular in design so that the gravity wave evelops the craft much better but shut that off and you have a rock..........they essentially run the reactors straight for the 25 year fuel span .... too much confidence in one main system will lead to failure... I dont care how advanced it is. from what I understand the triangular shaped crafts are ours.... Call it American ingenuity but they are hybrids... they run on conventional jet propulsion and gravity propulsion system and are aerodynamic however the wave doesnt correctly evelop craft and reactors are unstable.......... just make sure you run away if you see one in operation you dont want to get radiation damage as the reactor isnt stable ...... Typical unreliable american products .... they should outsource production to Japan lol



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posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 10:19 PM
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If i understood correctly zorgon posted like 8 9 crashes which i didnt remember.the interesting stuff is that crashes occured to other countries as well.russia and israel.so what happent with those crashes.where they covered up??i know of a crash that occured in greece and the interesting part is that the ufo that crashed was part of a ??squadron??in any case after the crash the object flew off as it was mentioned that the other ufos flying with it and descended to help apparently



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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probably to give the reactor a "boost" to start the reactor again..... this is litterally what prob occured during this "dogfight" like i said these crafts have no backup systems... but another craft can literally aid the other one within a second or two after having problems... its really amazing




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