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Castle in France...help!

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posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:52 AM
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I am posting on here because I dont know who else to ask! Also this site has IMO a lot of very intelligent people on it so I figured someone might have an answer!
About 5 years ago I was looking online at castles for sale in France and became awe struck by one in particular. I have no idea why I have been drawn to it but in the last 5 years I have found nothing on the history of it. Parts of it date back to the 15th century. It's in the Loire Valley, (Loire Valley castles are practically famous) and it's been for sale by two different agencies. I have emailed them both many times and they NEVER respond. I have asked for the address or even and old owners name. If I had the address I could go from there with public records. I just want to know a little about it's history so I can do my own research on it. I feel that something of that age has got to have a history! I do know that Gustav Eiffel helped restore the structural parts of it and Garnier did the interior lounges in the late 19th C. Does anyone on here know where I could go to find information on this beautiful (IMO) place? I am researching it for personal reasons and would really love to know the history of it.

THANKS!

edit to add pics




I love this place!

[edit on 6/15/2009 by mblahnikluver]




posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 12:32 PM
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Where did you get the pics? That should provide some leads.



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 12:42 PM
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reply to post by Gazrok
 


From the place listing it. I have had these pics on my laptop for years. They are the second place to list this in the last five years since I first found it. I have emailed them many times and they never respond with any kind of answer. Both sites have the same description and pics. The first site was Viviun and it seems the new site intlistings.com has the same description and pics from years ago. I hadnt seen it for sale for a couple years and a few months ago I found it on a new real estate listing site and still havent heard anything...I know it may sound silly to most but for some reason I am drawn to this place and want to know more about it.
If I have the address I can go from there!



posted on Jun, 16 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Ok so I emailed the person on the listing and the email is NOT valid. So I google the email address and it brings up 3 other listings on other sites and who are all being represented by the same person. This is driving me nuts! This has been on going for years now. What is it with this property and me and why doesnt anyone ever respond? What if I seriously wanted to buy it? They would be SOL right now! I just find it weird that all these sites have this property and yet the address on all of them is invalid. So now what?

Found it on another site! AGAIN not valid. mmmmm. I also googled the name of the person listing it and it only comes up in these listings nothing else. I thought anyone could be found using Google...lol Oh this is starting to piss me off!

[edit on 6/16/2009 by mblahnikluver]



posted on Jun, 16 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Any property for sale in France can only be sold by one agent.. you can't buy it from anyone else than the solicitor/agent who has been given permission by the property owner.

Most international sites use the info to boost their own web sites traffic.

The prices you see online may not actually be the genuine price for the property.

The best method is to talk to the agent direct.

If you can post all the links and info you have for this place then I will do my best to locate it for you and discover the agent who is dealing with the sale.
I have experience in dealing with French property.

BTW;

Domain Name: viviun.com

Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM
Whois Server: whois.directnic.com
Referral URL: www.directnic.com...
Status: clientDeleteProhibited, clientTransferProhibited, clientUpdateProhibited

Expiration Date: 2010-09-05
Creation Date: 2002-09-05
Last Update Date: 2006-12-19

Name Servers:
ns10.zoneedit.com
ns12.zoneedit.com
ns14.zoneedit.com
ns6.zoneedit.co.uk
See viviun.com DNS Records

Information Updated: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:10:27 UTC

www.who.is...

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posted on Jun, 16 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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Wow thanks! After typing the 4 places I found this Chateaux on into the "whois" search it seems like something isnt right. All the sites say they are inactive. Does this mean the site is not valid anymore?
I found it odd that after 4 years the description is the exact same as well as the pics. Is someone scamming someone and trying to sell something that isnt for sale or what? I just find it really odd that since I first found it NOBODY has EVER contacted me back with my inquiries.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 01:49 AM
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It might be genuinely for sale, but it just might be a 'show piece' to generate site traffic.

If you deal in estates then you're going to 'up your image', especially when you've got 'property' abroad.

The best way to buy property in France is to go there and talk to the people direct. If you like a place, put in an offer, don't just assume the price is fixed. You might get a bonus. Once a price has been agreed, you put down a deposit.

Then the paper work gets sorted out by the Notaire, who will ask if you want a mortgage or pay in full. You will need a French bank account which can be obtained when you have the details of the property you're buying, you'll need this for your house insurance too.

It is illegal for a Notaire to agree a deal with you only to sell to a higher offer later. Sometimes hard to prove though.

If a property is owned by a family, ie, inherited, then the entire family must agree to the sale at the price offered.

This is one of the best sites French Property News. You'll enjoy looking through this lot


One of the best tips you'll get about buying/living in France is to know the language, or at least, make an effort to speak it. You'll get a long way if you make that effort.

Not every property gets listed on the site. You'll see a link for 'more properties from agent' next to any you look closer at. Sometimes, those advertised are either sold or taken off the market and they just haven't updated the web site.

The best way to find a place in France, is to be there and drive around. You'll see a sign on the property saying "A Vendre" with the Notaires name and telephone number. Sometimes when you want to view a property, the Notaire will just give you the key and you can go look at the house yourself. Depends on if the owner has given the Notaire key holder rights etc.
Currency convertor xe.com

I hope this helps you a bit more.

Check these two

www.francepropertyshop.com...
www.francepropertyshop.com...

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posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:47 AM
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Thanks a lot!! I have been obsessed with France my entire life for some reason. I have always wanted to live there. I do speak some French. I was pretty fluent years ago but I havent used it in a long time so I am kind of rusty but I think once I get there I would be fine after a month or so.
I will check out those sites too! I am supposed to go to Paris at the end of the year. I hope this place is still for sale! It has been for years! I would love to find the address so I can see it myself and then I can research it's history more or even ask the people about it.

The thing about the sites I found it on is all of the email's do not work and are not valid. It just seems odd that 4 sites all have invalid email for contact to the agent or whoever it is and for the site itself. I have been looking at every site I can find with Chateaux's in the area of this place to see if it's on another site. All I have to go on are the picture. It's a pain but quite fun to look at all the gorgeous places for sale there. Now I am going to check your sites! Thanks so much for you help! I swear when I do find this place I will probably jump up and own yelling since I have been looking for years!

I checked out the two at the end and WOW! My friends and family have been teasing me for years over this place Im hunting down. IDK I just feel there is a reason I am drawn to it and I have to know! I am hoping to find the address so when I go there I can visit this place. The property listing site you gave me is awesome! I am looking through there now.

[edit on 6/17/2009 by mblahnikluver]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 01:20 PM
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So the site you linked to is the first site EVER where someone responded to my email! I just about jumped out of my chair! I found a property in the area and emailed the person and they are going to help me! He asked for the links to where I found it and he said he would go from there and see what he can find. Wow this just amazes me. He knows I am not looking to buy and he thinks it's interesting I want to research this place and that I have been looking for 5 years for info about it. I told him an address would be great! I sure hope he finds more than I did, I would be really happy. I am going to France at the end of the year and if I find this place I am going to stay in the Nievre area where it's located. If it is sold and someone lives there I hope they dont mind someone knocking on their door to see. Thank goodness I can hold a simple conversation in French if they dont speak English. Thank you so much for responding to my post. If you hadnt I would probably still be emailing and hearing nothing. In all my searches I was never brought to that site. There are some beautiful properties on there! Thanks again! I wish I could give you a bunch of stars right now!



edit for horribly too fast excited typing....lol

[edit on 6/17/2009 by mblahnikluver]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 02:09 PM
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I'm so glad you got a response so fast from someone there.

Congrats.

I'm glad I was able to help in that little way. Just make sure you write a thread about it (with pics
) on here once you've done your research.


Would love to read the full story



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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Maybe go to a past life regression specialist PRIOR to learning more about the place, and then see how much of it (if anything) matches up to what you learn? (that is where you're going with this...right?)



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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No I never really though about it like that. It's funny you mention that because my friends and family say "oh you must have been French in a past life," because ever since I was little I was obsessed, literally, with living there and going there and learning French and anything I could about France and to this day I have no idea why I was first drawn to France let alone this piece of property. I think what you said was a great idea! I will look in my area. I do believe in past lives and reincarnation. Wow would that be something.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 03:33 PM
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Thanks! Yea I was surprised but happy. I will post more info when and if I learn more. If this person finds it, I will be going there when I go to France later this year.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone replied to my FB group, which I honestly forgot I had made. I also got a reply via my flickr account with the pics I have.

It appears THIS is the place

At last!! Chateau Vergers

However my lack of French isn't helping and the google translate doesn't translate everything. I want to find maybe a site where I can see inside pics and if this place is available for rental or anything like that.


The person linked me to the above link and I am not sure what it is, it is only pics of the place for sale but it is the place I was looking for so I finally have a name!

I am so excited! I have been looking everywhere for this place. It does appear according to GE that is it not where it stated in the AD I found it in which still makes me think the "For Sale" ad was a scam.

So anyone who speaks French or you know the area please any information would be great.

I am not finding much in my search but I could be searching wrong since the name is French, it brings up French sites first.



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