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reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 10:24 PM by silent thunder
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They appear to have gone for a strategy along the lines of: "make it so fast those who have a clue will be left with their mouths hanging open, while
the by the time the clueless get an inkling of what hit them it will be all over."
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reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 10:25 PM by silent thunder
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Double post, sorry
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reply posted on 21-6-2009 @ 10:37 PM by smilinggrandma
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Sunday, June 21, 2009
Bank Holiday Coming? Prepare?
>From Harry Schultz:
Dear Bob:
Bob Chapman’s Int’l Forecaster newsletter revealed (5/20) this startling intelligence (from within US State Dept & embassies):
”Some US embassies worldwide are being advised to purchase massive amounts of local currencies; enough to last them a year. Some embassies are being
sent enormous amounts of US cash to purchase currencies from those govts, quietly. But not £’s. Inside the State Dept there is a sense of sadness &
foreboding that ‘something’ is about to happen, unknown re a date—just that within 180 days, but could be 120-150 days.”
Bob quotes another source that “Panasonic has told their people to be back in Japan by Sept 09.”
Harry Schultz, dean of newsletter writers, has quoted the Chapman letter of May 30 regarding US embassies being sent large amounts of cash with which
to buy local *currencies, to last them a year. Here is Harry’s remarkable take on the situation:
“My HSL suspicion is that the elite plan another FDR style “bank holiday” of indefinite length, perhaps very soon, to let the insiders sort-out
the bank mess which is getting more out of their control every day.*Insiders want/need to impose new bank rules. Widespread nationalization could
result, already under way. It could also lead to a formal US$ devaluation, as FDR did by revaluing gold (& then confiscating it). But devalue against
what? The euro? Doubtful. Gold? Maybe. Or vs. the IMF basket of currencies (which seems more likely)—& much in the news recently. Any kind of bank
holiday will push the US$ lower, which may be a bonus benefit to their ongoing scenario of letting the $ fall. Such a fall would get the devaluation
they want without having to declare it. In sum, the insiders want more bank & system control, fewer banks & a lower US$. A bank holiday would suit all
their needs.
Obviously, U can’t open safeboxes if the banks are closed, so plan accordingly. All this is speculation, but we have to go with what we’ve got,
scraps of info that point to certain possibilities. In any case such a closure will, IMO, come sooner or later, as the worst of the embedded
derivatives are still to be faced. We are years away from solving them because the controllers don’t want to; their fingerprints are all over them.
***
PS: during the FDR bank holiday, thousands of banks never reopened; it was a face-saving way of shutting them down. I would guess the same would occur
today; thousands have little or no net value, loaded with debt, bad mortgages.
••• *PPS: A Bob Chapman subscriber reported overhearing 2 FEMA jacketed men talking to a police chief in Calif. They wanted to federalize the
police across the US. They (govt) would be closing banks in late Aug, early Sept & that it will get ugly.” Prepare for worst case, as any good Boy
or Girl Scout would do. J”
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reply posted on 22-6-2009 @ 03:52 PM by SGTChas
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Than you for the post, it fits exactly with all we have been watching. Have cash and food stock piled.
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 07:00 PM by SGTChas
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The speed with which everything is happening should be waking up even the most skeptical, unless willingly blind – Cap and Tax (Trade) is the
biggest power grab by our government that we have ever witnessed. Through it they will be able to regulate almost every energy consuming activity. Add
to this Single Payer socialized medicine and WHAT you eat as well as WHAT you do will be under regulatory control of the government as it effects your
health.
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 07:10 PM by daddyroo45
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Originally posted by SGTChas
The speed with which everything is happening should be waking up even the most skeptical, unless willingly blind – Cap and Tax (Trade) is the
biggest power grab by our government that we have ever witnessed. Through it they will be able to regulate almost every energy consuming activity. Add
to this Single Payer socialized medicine and WHAT you eat as well as WHAT you do will be under regulatory control of the government as it effects your
health.
Today's vote will be remembered years down the road as the instrument that broke the constitution of the united states. This effectivly puts
EVERYTHING that uses power under government control. Now our government owns large interests in nearly everything but health care,and that's next. We
are screwed to the wall with this last Cap & Tax vote.
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 07:19 PM by SGTChas
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Take heart as this is the straw that broke the camel's back - several VERY powerful military officers are watching this vote with gritted teeth. The
reports of calls to Congressmen with “Yes we are receiving a large volume of calls against this, but Congressmen ________________ still is going to
vote for it” will be their undoing. THEN IF IT FAILS, they plan to pull the economic plug anyway, this will just aid making even the most die hard
‘work within the system’ proponents realize the stupidity of that position.
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 08:20 PM by daddyroo45
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I do take heart at the fact that these idiots are the exception here in this country instead of the rule. I have never witnessed such a consensus of
people of different affiliation,bemoaning the idiocy.
I sometime wonder if they might be under some type of undue pressure,by people they deem more powerful than themselves.
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 08:28 PM by SGTChas
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As in David Rockefeller and TPTB. Of course there are an ‘elite’ pulling their strings. The cure is 7.62 NATO and lots of rope.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 01:11 AM by miragezero
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Originally posted by SGTChas
The speed with which everything is happening should be waking up even the most skeptical, unless willingly blind – Cap and Tax (Trade) is the
biggest power grab by our government that we have ever witnessed.
You do realize utilities have 40 years to comply right? That means more nukes, solar, wind, hydro, geothermal etc... And that cap and trade already
been done before quite sucessfully in this country? And that all of this is barring the advent of fusion or other technologies such as room
temperature superconductors (high tension lines) that will ultimately benefit energy production as well.
Originally posted by SGTChas
Through it they will be able to regulate almost every energy consuming activity. Add to this Single Payer socialized medicine and WHAT you eat as well
as WHAT you do will be under regulatory control of the government as it effects your health.
That is pure conjecture only.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 01:43 AM by nenothtu
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Originally posted by miragezero
You do realize utilities have 40 years to comply right? That means more nukes, solar, wind, hydro, geothermal etc... And that cap and trade already
been done before quite sucessfully in this country? And that all of this is barring the advent of fusion or other technologies such as room
temperature superconductors (high tension lines) that will ultimately benefit energy production as well.
So your saying that the government regulation don't go into effect for 40 years? No money changes hands for 40 years? Why would they waste time
passing a law that doesn't happen for 40 years? Sounds decidedly un-governmental to me.
Originally posted by SGTChas
Through it they will be able to regulate almost every energy consuming activity. Add to this Single Payer socialized medicine and WHAT you eat as well
as WHAT you do will be under regulatory control of the government as it effects your health.
That is pure conjecture only.
Conjecture wouldn't equate with false. So I notice you're NOT denying what he said.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:58 AM by miragezero
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Eh, I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion we're getting trolled.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:03 AM by nenothtu
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Originally posted by miragezero
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Eh, I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion we're getting trolled.
Me too. And that was a GREAT way to avoid the question!
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:22 AM by miragezero
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You are on the internet; the time you took to creat that response to me would be better spent researching
cap and trade. which as I stated has already worked in the past for SO2 and NOX. It is set
up for emerging technologies over the next 40 years and declining use of fossil fuels. As for who gets the money.. it is likely whoever gleans
green/clean tech the earliest will make the profit longhaul as they will be able not only to produce power but also to sell their remaining permits if
they "overscrub." Plants that pollute more will buy them and as time goes on and the emmisions limit get tighter they will have less and less of a
profit by not going green, up to even no profit eventually... but at that point the tech should be cheaper and again, all of this assumes there will
be no breakthroughs in fusion or nanotech which I think is extremely unlikely in the next forty years. We could likely meet the goal well before 40
years with a number of breakthroughs.
Also I do not have to deny conjecture with loose basis in reality... it is so loose in fac tthat it makes me think we are all being trolled in a lot
of these posts anymore. You all are given alternative points of view, you are given facts to contradict the few claims you make that can be verified
and it is completely ignored. You guys are so illogical about it that it doesnt' even appear as though it could be real sentiment to me anymore.
OR you were sent here by Pelosi with exaggerated points of view to make the right wing seem even MORE right and insane! Yes that is it, it is the ole
NWO psychological-loop-around-to-our-point-of-view attack!
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reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 02:48 PM by nenothtu
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Ok... was that long winded diatribe a way of saying "I can use a lot of words and STILL avoid answering your question."?
let me refresh your obviously short memory, and re-post the question:
Originally posted by nenothtu
So your saying that the government regulation don't go into effect for 40 years? No money changes hands for 40 years? Why would they waste time
passing a law that doesn't happen for 40 years? Sounds decidedly un-governmental to me.
The ball is in your court, and I don't suppose it would be sporting to have to ask the question again, so I won't. If you can't answer it
this time, then I reckon this conversation is over.
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reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 02:50 PM by miragezero
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I did answer you, but you reckon correctly; this is over. Farewell.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 11:19 PM by THELlGHT
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reply posted on 11-7-2009 @ 10:26 PM by PjZ101
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Great Post S & F for you. Couldnt have said it any better.
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