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Originally posted by Slih_09
Originally posted by JayinAR
NDE experiences are something I've thought about off and on for quite some time now.
I don't know what to think. You see, I've died (kinda) for roughly 2 1/2 minutes on the operating table and nothing happened.
Which tells me that it was either the drugs in my system or that I haven't done anything noteworthy.
That's very interesting because I'd really like to hear some more stories like yours, NDE where nothing happens, where you just lose consciousness and that's it.
It seems to me like the NDE stories are really biased, and it seems like most people assume that NDE means that you had "divine" experiences. The statistics show that there's FAR more cases of NDE where the individual didn't experience anything fancy yet there aren't that many people describing those experiences. I'd really like to see the whole picture and not just the infinite love, the tunnel, the deceased relatives magically appearing before you side.
So if any of you know a site with stories of NDEs where people describe dying without any divine stuff involved please tell me.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
I think its very similar to the fact that we dream every night...but do not recall these dreams always.
I think many that have had experiences, dont really consider them to be divine always.
My grandfather was not much of 'faith or belief'...and during his last 2 days in the hospital of dying of cancer...he constantly talked about how he was fishing on the most beautiful water he had ever seen and that his dog( that had already past on years before) was with him on the boat. My grandfather, fished every day, sometimes 2 times a day. It was the first thing he did every morning. It was his love...that and the water.
The smile on his face as he would talk about being with ruffous (his dog) and how beautiful the water was only said that he was absolutely sure, it was real, to him at least. There was not a divine essence to it...but in a sense...this was his 'heaven' so to say.
Something else I consider greatly....is we are creators of the astral plane...the area of 'inbetween'. In a sense...we may create our 'heaven' or even our 'hell'. If we die with much guilt on our minds...our fears or worries by manifest into a scenery...for one may find themselves not worthy of creating something good for themselves. If people feel the 'need' to be judged...they may create this too. Many people of a certain religion have experiences that sway from what they believed to be a fact. Some people though have very religious experiences and some of the more religious people are the ones it seems to have a experience of a 'hell'. I think this very well could be the conditioning of 'thought' within them...that they are not worthy.
Not saying this is in any way facts...but what every my mother was experiencing and my grandfather...they found it all to be very real.
Appreciate all thoughts
Originally posted by FlyersFan
"there are no sins ... all that matters is what you think" ...
Um ... I don't think so.
What we do matters. What pain we cause matters. What good we do matters.