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reply posted on 14-6-2009 @ 02:11 AM by Petchy29
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Helping people is always a good thing but you should help without expecting anything in return. Selflessness is the key to good energy.


reply posted on 14-6-2009 @ 07:02 AM by SoulOrb
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Helping people is always a good thing but you should help without expecting anything in return. Selflessness is the key to good energy.


Possibly for you. The point here was the concept that during meditation he came into my mind, and that he had a cyclic issue of these things happening as if he was being undermined possibly by himself.

I got thinking about why souls incarnate somewhere, and for example since he was taken out of his place of choice when it came to incarnation the possibility for the same lessons is not as apparent, since for example the things required in NA might not be the same as in a third world country for example.

You say that a person should give without expecting anything. Is this your experience, and can you please tell me the two examples, and if not, who taught you that and why do you think their knowledge should apply to my friend?

In his case it was simply that energy was blocked. In the past as he did those things he seems to free up some energy or be better aligned.

So in his case I believe, he has no choice, he simply must do it for life, since that energy wants to come through, his soul needs that experience, and this was an experiment into that concept.

Additionally many people do not see that there is a total different system in NA. In India for example you might go a be a person who ferries a person across the river in a boat. And if you do that, you get a little money, and you can do it your whole life. You are often appreciated as well, and you do not need to compete so much for that job once you have it because your father had it and your grandfather. It is a different set of lessons.

However here a person needs to compete, constantly self educate, and those who do not focus on money and greed and focus on self often end up doing the menial jobs as well, but are looked down on many times, and not seen as an intergral part of society.

So, inside this society, he needs to created a small experience of giving to satisfy his soul so he can live in a more materialistic self to self environment that was against his soul choice.

So in this case his giving had little to do with what he was trying to get, but resolving energy that was at an imbalance. Him not getting a job here was the perversion, since he was not being supported.

And I by the way do not accept that rule that you must give with no expectation. That is a rule that has been passed down as well, and not one a person has to accept. I think they can tell what the rules should be by the effect on their life, and progress or no progress.


reply posted on 14-6-2009 @ 09:51 AM by HiAliens

Wow, well I recently have tried to do more about service to others, but mostly I need to do this because of my strong traits for justice. It comes through like a blazing sword and if I see an issue where peoples divinity is being robbed, I need to write a letter or something just to get the energy out there, or I feel frustrated.


I feel similar, I feel compelled to do things otherwise I feel pent-up. In fact, I did feel pent-up for most of my 20's. There's a million ways to try STO and everyone's got to find their own path. If everyone did the 12 sandwiches thing a lot of hunger and begging would cease.

There might have been some soul choices that were not expressed in your daily life.

This is 100% true. I was going through some difficult times. I understood LOA etc, but I kept saying to myself that once the world helps me on my feet I'll help it. But the world was saying the opposite to me, "once you raise your flag we'll help you." I was not engaged with my fate and was flubbing my souls purpose, and when I engaged life things started flowing. I didn't even ask for the career doors to open, they just came as a natural side-effect, and put more opportunities to help others in front of me. I just do it because I feel really really alive when I stay on the STO path.


And well, here in North America there could be some souls who need to be service to self, and want to do everything for say money and fame and glory. That is good too, we need them as well.

true, maybe, but then it becomes complicated: Are Cameron Diaz, Michael Jordan, Benjamin Franklin, Warren Buffet STO or STS oriented?

The I Ching says, "to rule is to serve"

I like David Wilcocks writings on STO, do you know any other good writers on the subject?



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