Understood, but is there no limit to what is responsible..?

And if that stuff about reincarnation is true, then this guy could be a future world killer in the early stages employing his hatred for the evil without to committing even greater evil.

My hope is that he'll step back and reconsider, and these views do change as people get older and wiser.

This thread in itself is an example. Nearly all of you are lairs, liars to yourself, corrupt to the core. You pretend everything's okay and that "positivity" and "negativity" are the shallow concepts you use to draw lines in the sand.

Let me ask you this, what's so positive about what we're doing right now? Are we really doing anything beyond meaningless symbolic and ineffective "good" things? Are we building for a brighter future? No, it's just one big massive perverted orgy of power to control another being, be it a nation of millions or your supposed loved ones.

Hell no, we're contaminating, paving, and blowing up every damned thing we can manage to destroy. I've watched this world die since i was a kid, i used to have hope, but the more i find out about you sick twisted evil creatures the less hope i can hold.

Oh yeah, and for all you with your inflated sense of self importance who suggested to the OP to lead by example, you're the sickness that convinces me there's no hope for the species. Instead of being alarmed that so many people in your oh-so-wonderful world have no hope for tomorrow, and standing by your values of positivity, which is really thinly disguised ignorant bliss, you all say "go first" and STFU, and continue living your lie of a life.

And for you poor blind ignorant ones who think that love is the answer, let me ask you this, can you love someone who lies to you with every action? That's not love, i don't know what it is, but if one is not true to oneself, one cannot have true love for oneself, let alone others. Love is a dead concept that lies side by side in it's grave next to truth. If you give "love" to a liar you're loving the lies that make up that deceitful person. This includes deceiving yourself and loving yourself, this especially means yourself.

And as far as the earth itself, we've turned the entire planet into poverty stricken slums, anywhere people are. There's 4 billion people right now struggling to survive to see tomorrow while ultimately about 300 of the world's elite control 95 percent of resources. Do the math, 400 billion vs 300, it's just that there's 400 billion people who are too dumb to refuse to play their game. In the process this planet has been made into such a wasteland i barely trust the air i breathe not to be toxic, the food, the water, everything, and on top of it all, there's people fighting over whose slave i will be, vying for control of me and others. I don't even want what's left of this dead planet, what good is a rotting corpse? They won't have ME though.

I've given up trusting any humans anymore, they're all such hypocrites it makes me sick to even have any kind of interaction anymore with such a vile beast. I've been working on finalizing all my affairs so i can leave, as lots of you suggested. I'll be leading by example soon.

Just looking at the first post in this thread we're told "we have no feelings" but yet "we're ruled by emotions". Last time I checked they were the same thing. PRIDE is not a bad thing either. Tell the people of the oppressed world they have no pride and then they'll never try earn rights or gain freedom. I might also add that not every human is bad. Go up to an innocent child and tell him/her they have to die?? How fair is that?
Frankly your opinions are stupid. You can't judge us all on a select few making mistakes.

I dont know about the rest of you but i can identify with both sides of the argument here.

It really does depend upon "which side of the bed " i have gotten out of as to whose argument i agree with more on a day to day basis.

Maybe i can agree with Skitzo from a "humans are sheep" perspective but then surely the leaders of the flock are to blame.

Maybe if we had good, honest, transparent leaders who were not into power for their own means we might have a better chance of a more "morally aligned" future, and present.
I just fear we have been led down the garden path for the most part of the 20th century, and probably before.

Somedays it seems as if we are too far gone to make things better but then on other days i feel sure i can see the light on the horizon.

Maybe it's just my astigmatism playing tricks on me again.

Originally posted by SkitzoFrenic
Just to clear a few facts up...

I am not a druggie, i don't shoot anything, smoke anything, or insert anything anally...

I have a job, I work hard, I have a girlfriend, I go out, i have fun, I do all those things.

But when I sit down and look at the broader aspect of life, watch the news, see how many people were murdered today, stabbed, beaten, mugged, robbed, blown up, commited suicide.

How our governments control us, lie to us, lead the western countries to war killing millions and millions of innocent people.

And all we do is sit back and flap our mouths about how bad our governments are while we sit and watch tv all day long, stuffing our faces with genetic foods.

Millions starve, millions die every day.

This world is screwed, we as a human race are screwed.

And yes, I hate the fact I am a human, because all I do is flap my big mouth about how bad things are, yet, i don't do much to make it better.


But nothing we do today, or can do today can change things.


Nothing but complete destruction, WAR, World War 3, the war to end all wars.

Everything needs to be destroyed, all governments, 99% of the world population needs to die...

Then, then we need to start over.


Perhaps those who survived would know better than to go down the same path again.

That's good you are not a druggie, and whatever you put up anally is your business, but this post just tells me you are just part of the "pack". You are among the ones who whine and moan about how bad things are but you aren't doing anything to improve anything yourself. So just like any other person, you are just letting it all go while doing nothing, but instead of trying to make any kind of difference, you just want to give up and say wipe out the planet of humans because it's easier. It's hard work doing it the other way. You say wiping out humans from the war to end all wars is how to fix things, and then start over,but guess what will happen, we will be back to the point we are at now. It has been done before, and we as humans still are lost souls. a great awakening needs to happen, but that can't be done if you aren't willing to put anything in to it. It takes work, which no one wants to do.

Originally posted by SkitzoFrenic



My only wish is that all humans die off this planet, so that once again it can return to it's former beauty.

[edit on 14-6-2009 by SkitzoFrenic]

Except that this "beauty", as you describe it, essentially does nothing different than we do. With one big exception.

Plants fight each other for resources (water, light).

Animals kill each other for food.

Rivers and bodies of water erode land.

The strong live. The weak die. At least humans fight to save the weak and unable.

We are a part of nature. Just because we're better at it than the rest of the animals doesn't make us bad.

Dude you need a new set of friends and a change of place... Its true that there are a hell of a lot of power hungry people in the world but there are also the exact opposite aswell. Instead of wasting your life hoping we all die why not go out and try to find a group of people who are caring, considerate, intelligent and care deeply about the environment.

These type of people do exist if you go and look for them...

Then again it could just be you, if you do all these things why not try and change them in yourself......

Oh yeah, and for all you with your inflated sense of self importance who suggested to the OP to lead by example, you're the sickness that convinces me there's no hope for the species.

Kill yourself then.

Kill yourself then.

It will solve the problem.

And no, of course I'm not serious - these threads pop up about every 2 weeks and I tell them this pretty much every single time. They never do it, because they don't truely mean it. Or because they don't think they're human, but rather superior to everyone else, or are like that guy who thought he had helped solve the problem in multiple lifetimes.

Have a gooood night.

It's Sarcasm, bro.


As for inflated sence of self importance...

This thread in itself is an example. Nearly all of you are lairs, liars to yourself, corrupt to the core. You pretend everything's okay and that "positivity" and "negativity" are the shallow concepts you use to draw lines in the sand.

You seem a bit hypocritical then. But I guess that makes me one too. Like I said you're nothing different to the rest of us.

I've given up trusting any humans anymore, they're all such hypocrites it makes me sick to even have any kind of interaction anymore with such a vile beast.

I'm a human, as is yourself and everyone on this forum. You obviously don't mean what you said (liar, hypocrite), or else you wouldn't be here.




Let me guess, bitter old man? (Then I'm a stupid kid). Oh well. Only human.

[edit on 20/6/2009 by C0bzz]

Originally posted by SkitzoFrenic
We are filth
We are scum
We are the infectious disease of this planet.

We destroy nature
We destroy each other

We are filled with hate
Greed
Gluttony
Pride
Lust

We are a perverse being.

We have no morals, we have no real feelings.

We are ruled by emotion, we are ruled by our greed and lust, but mostly our pride.


We murder, rape, pillage and torture.

We wage endless wars, causing endless misery.


We are the scourge of the earth, of the universe.

We, humans are far WORSE that those that walk on four legs.

We deserve nothing but death and destruction.


My only wish is that all humans die off this planet, so that once again it can return to it's former beauty.

[edit on 14-6-2009 by SkitzoFrenic]

I guessing its just been a long day for you and your tired or this is because your dad wouldn't take you to the circus when you were little. Just foolin widja Take a few deep breaths and count back from ten and repeat "goosfrahbah" a few times and then you wont feel so overstimulated.
Theres good and bad in everything. Its a glass half full or empty thing when faced with an overload of information. You have to make a choice whether its worth dwelling on the evil of some or the good of others.

Wonder if we'll ever see "suicide parlors" like in Kurt Vonnegut's Welcome to the Monkey House or perhaps, more familar to many, Soylient Green. First you check in, then you check out. Forever.

Would you beleive some advanced alien species believe this is what the human race on this planet is like and what they deserve.Unfortunatly not all people on this planet are bad.It looks like the bad humans have made it look bad for the rest of us.In the aliens eyes we have all been bad in someway or another.Killing and eating other animals and plants.That a great sin in alot of aliens eyes.What the aliens don;t relise we need to kill other animals and eat plants to survive.Some aliens take spacific protiens from human blood to survive.They are doing the same thing to us so why should they complain about the human race.

This thread in itself is an example. Nearly all of you are lairs, liars to yourself, corrupt to the core. You pretend everything's okay and that "positivity" and "negativity" are the shallow concepts you use to draw lines in the sand.

You seem a bit hypocritical then. But I guess that makes me one too. Like I said you're nothing different to the rest of us.

I've given up trusting any humans anymore, they're all such hypocrites it makes me sick to even have any kind of interaction anymore with such a vile beast.

I'm a human, as is yourself and everyone on this forum. You obviously don't mean what you said (liar, hypocrite), or else you wouldn't be here.




Let me guess, bitter old man? (Then I'm a stupid kid). Oh well. Only human.

[edit on 20/6/2009 by C0bzz]

Yes i actually do mean what i say about a race of hypocritical liars. What i typed here is as much interaction as i've had in quite a while. I've given up pretty much wasting my breath on social interaction. I don't trust any humans anymore, and i've seen ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in this world to make me think it's worth saving.


We've had the chance to do great things, to touch the stars, to care for one another and live a rewarding life to it's fullest. Instead we lie, cheat, steal, rob, waste, defile, exploit, and rape everything that exists in our tangible world. We live as slaves to the ones who consider themselves the rulers of humans.


Yeah, there might be good people on this planet, maybe a few hundred thousand out of billions who are not the disgusting things i see around me if i venture out into society.

Also, i'm not saying i'm any better than you sick creatures, i'm just aware of the sickness. I'll gladly go willingly if it's for the extinction of the species right now, this second, but since other people will live on past me, i'm making sure i don't wrong anyone when i do leave. I'm clearing up and fulfilling my obligations and then i'll go.

And as for

I'm a human, as is yourself and everyone on this forum. You obviously don't mean what you said (liar, hypocrite), or else you wouldn't be here.

I'm here to keep an eye on you all, i want to be kept abreast of the sickness of society so i know what i'm dealing with. Know your enemy. I don't post much at all or really talk to anyone anymore about anything anymore, this is probably the most communication anyone has gotten from me in a LONG time.

as an almost a 5 year member of this forum. ive seen, read, heard, and been through enough to agree with dezertskies. im aware im not perfect, but its amazing how far i am above most people, and i have no problem going if the time comes.

for all you hoping for change. your foolish. try to change what you can within yourself, and just try to enjoy the ride. its to late. if nature doesnt kill us, we will kill ourselves one way or another.

[edit on 24-6-2009 by jimmy1200]

I think that some people are just overwhelmed by all the things going on in the world. Most of us get that way at one time or another. But without hope, there is nothing at all. There is still beauty in nature, mystery in the universe, profound love and compassion...All is not lost. Most humans need to evolve and to see that human beings are far more valuable than power, greed, and selfishness. We must work together to defend ourselves against great injustices, stand up against those who seek to keep us down. You are far stronger than you know. You do care. You do not really want the human race to die.

There IS hope. You may not feel it now, but little by little as people wake up and see what's going on, more and more will stand up and fight for freedom, nurture the earth and turn things around. There are many groups who are doing just that. Do not give up dear posters. You are not alone.

"The human race needs to die" ?
Like hell we do !