The meaning of Lucifer, page 1

reply to post by NW111

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See, what I'm saying is, that Lucifer is not, in the Latin translation of the Bible, used to describe a fallen angel as a proper name. It is used multiple times, in reference to multiple people.

reply to post by DaisyAnne

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I have always thought Lucifer meant light-bringer. From the latin Lux-ferre translated Lux-light and Ferre-carry.

Originally posted by midicon
reply to post by DaisyAnne

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I have always thought Lucifer meant light-bringer. From the latin Lux-ferre translated Lux-light and Ferre-carry.

Yes indeed!
Which is why in Latin, it refers to the planet Venus.
Just as Eosphoros does in Greek.

reply to post by DaisyAnne

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many incorrect uses and translations and interpretations of the word "Lucifer."

I feel your pain....


I hate it when people murder the term Hear, Hear..! by saying, "Here, Here..."


It upsets me...

Originally posted by chapter29
reply to post by DaisyAnne

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I feel your pain....


I hate it when people murder the term Hear, Hear..! by saying, "Here, Here..."


It upsets me...

Actually, that bothers me too!
Along with when people say,
"I could care less."
instead of saying,
"I couldn't care less."

reply to post by DaisyAnne

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There is a Deity in the Hindu pantheon known as 'Maha Dev' which basically translates as 'The Great Light.'

Here is a photo of one of His images taken in Haridwar -

reply to post by visible_villain

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Yes this is true!
Quite a few deities worldwide have names to do with light and fire.
That is a gorgeous statue.

reply to post by visible_villain

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I wonder if this diety also represets venus.
Indeed do Indian gods represent planetary bodies?

reply to post by midicon

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You asked :
I wonder if this diety also represets venus.
Indeed do Indian gods represent planetary bodies?

This 'deity' is most commonly known as Shiva, although it is commonly remarked that he has 1001 names, Maha Dev being only one of those 1001.

The best way I can think of to 'explain' what Shiva 'is,' is to refer you to some explanatory material regarding Chakrasamvara.

As far as how the Hindu pantheon correlates to our everyday mundane existence, I have heard all kinds of nonsense about this, and will choose to remain silent on the matter.

Look into it yourself - form your own opinion !

reply to post by visible_villain

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Thank you for your reply and for the links! I think I was expecting a simple yes or no but like so many things there’s more to it. So Maha Dev is Shiva! Who is of course the ‘destroyer of worlds’ and who has most definite connections with Venus and subsequently with Lucifer.
For me anyway Lucifer is the planet we now call Venus which may, at one time in our history, have been a comet. The bible and various other mythologies, subject to interpretation, can be seen loosely to support this idea and it’s certainly not beyond the realm of reason to see it as a possibility.
Thanks again.

reply to post by midicon

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Mabey the deal with Venus, the bright morning star and its mystical history revolves around how odd it must of been to the people of ancient time. Being the 3 brightest object in the sky and being able to notice how its seems to 'fall' from evening sky and becomes a 'morning star' that rises before the Sun in the East, almost bringing a sense of the one who 'brings' the sun. Many cultures took notice of Venus as a or bringer. This is why history of cultures and beliefs interests me so because one can see how cultures influenced each other with beliefs and what was seen as important to the people. Some say the Bible is rich with astronomical importance and I could totally see that.

I thought Shiva was was looked at more so of the 'pure one' who can purify someone just by the mention of the name. The Supreme One also is referred to as Shiva....being the all supreme-can of course destroy. It seemed when I studied it Shiva was both destroyer and pure one/supreme one. I could be wrong...

reply to post by LeoVirgo

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Hello LeoVirgo, you could be right of course, I did say 'subject to interpretation' and I certainly haven't drawn any hard and fast conclusions.
However the various myths from the past are interesting don't you think?
'Born from the forehead of Jupiter', 'fallen from heaven', 'the wavy haired one', etc...there is a long list of appelations ascribed to Venus that resemble cometary features. I'm sure there is even one that says Venus once rivalled the sun in brighteness.

Originally posted by DaisyAnne

Originally posted by chapter29
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I feel your pain....


I hate it when people murder the term Hear, Hear..! by saying, "Here, Here..."


It upsets me...

Actually, that bothers me too!
Along with when people say,
"I could care less."
instead of saying,
"I couldn't care less."

ARG that also makes my rage meter fill to the max.

But I always thought Lucifer was the name of the Angel who eventually became Satan.

If not, what is that Angel's name?

I admit I am not a Christian though and haven't thouroughly read the Bible in a long time.

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