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Secret US Military Autonomous Robot Project

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posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 04:48 AM
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If that is what you want to take from the things I've said then yes, I've looked at the picture provided by Chadwickus and determined that you are seeing things that aren't there, and how you get to "Secret US Military Autonomous Robot Project" from that picture is beyond me I fail to see a robot, sorry




posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 04:57 AM
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I assume that you've also taken a look at all the other images of this device that I have in my Photo Area ... and not just that single one from Chadwickus ?

Anyway, we'll leave it at that as no amount of explanation from me is going to convince you otherwise.



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 06:01 AM
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Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths. I have minor biblical scholar and scriptural skills. Also I am not a scientific/legal or medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes! & watch out that you don't
get cut on my Occams razor.All of this is my personal conjecture and should not be considered the absolute or most definitive state of things as they really are. Use this information at your own risk! I accept no liability if your ideology comes crashing down around you with accompanying consequences!

Explanation: Its 99.999% a large ROCK! I looked on GE and at an eye height of 50 mtrs and analyzed it as follows.....













Personal Disclosure: Star for the OP because they just just forced me to D/L GE and learn to master it in less than 1hr! so I could debunk this junk.



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 06:15 AM
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I'm really sorry you put so much time & effort into your analysis to come to the conclusion it's a "rock".
Unfortunately, you had the device lying on it's side ... in other words, you should have oriented GE so that East was directly at the top of the compass ... you were actually looking north. So I'm not surprised by your misinterpretation.

Use GE ... zoom into an altitude of 1500m as any lower gives no improvement in quality ... then rotate the compass so East is at the top ... then finally drag the device almost to the right hand side of your screen to get the best view ... make sure that tilt is at minimum.



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 07:06 AM
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Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths. I have minor biblical scholar and scriptural skills. Also I am not a scientific/legal or medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes! & watch out that you don't get cut on my Occams razor.All of this is my personal conjecture and should not be considered the absolute or most definitive state of things as they really are. Use this information at your own risk! I accept no liability if your ideology comes crashing down around you with accompanying consequences!

Explanation: 1stly pls don't feel sorry as I felt that the effort was required. ATS requires I deny ignorance.

2ndly I've done quite a bit of work already and I don't seem to be able to access YOUR pics so maybe if you embed them in this thread it would be of great help to us all as to see actually what you are seeing.

3rdly I still left a minute margin of error and so will allow you to humor me for a bit more.

Personal Disclosure: I provide here another picture for comparison. See how the vehicle in question is not ambiguous in appearance!
[ as viewed in GE from same eye height of 50mtrs and vehicle is about same size in dimensions as the ROCK?!]



So again until you can blunt my Occams razor I still posit that its 99.999% a ROCK! BTW I won't accept "oh its military in nature and is therefor camouflaged". :shk:



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 07:58 AM
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posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 08:00 AM
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Darn ... the top 3 pics didn't display correctly so ignore them.
Hopefully the remainder will give you a better understanding of what I'm trying to explain to you.



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 08:24 AM
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Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths. I have minor biblical scholar and scriptural skills. Also I am not a scientific/legal or medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes! & watch out that you don't get cut on my Occams razor.All of this is my personal conjecture and should not be considered the absolute or most definitive state of things as they really are. Use this information at your own risk! I accept no liability if your ideology comes crashing down around you with accompanying consequences!

Explanation: Is this sorta what you were trying to achieve???










Personal Disclosure: I think my overlay sorta fits what you are trying to get at but I feel that we are working with far too little detail to get anything of worth from GE.
So its possible (0.001%) what you say it is and its [99.999%] possible that its a ROCK! Now it comes down to whats more probable? ROCK? or WTF?


[REDACTED: see Edit below]P.S. I have no idea what the first 4 pictures in your post are supposed to show especially no#4 with length noted BUT NO RULER LINE VISIBLE!!!
[REDACTED: see Edit below]

Edited to say you beat me to the post RE my P.S. so I REDACTED it.


[edit on 13-6-2009 by OmegaLogos]



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 08:45 AM
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Sorry, but no ... your overlays are nothing like the actual shape & design of the object.
I'm still so surprised that you simply cannot see the device as it is very easy to make out ... there is absolutely NO confusing it for a rock, tree, shrub or anything else ... it's just THERE and it's just sooooo artificial and constructed. I know exactly what I'm seeing.

Look, I'm not going to push my conclusions or observations on you ... if you simply cannot see it, then that's all there is to it. I will however thank you for at least taking the time and interest.



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 08:50 AM
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i'm sorry but the only thing i see in those pics is an over reactive imagination...To me it looks like a rock wearing a t00-too...



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 08:58 AM
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I most certainly am NOT gilty of an overactive imagination and am also NOT prone to fantasizing or delusional behaviour ... the device exists ... a rock with a too-too ... give me a break !

I can easily see why the US military doesn't need to fear unwarranted disclosure of it's projects if accidently seen by satellite as judging by the negative responses I've been getting, the natural response is complete & total disbelief.

Anyway guys, if you have no objection to me continuing with my delusional paranoid fixation ...



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 10:53 AM
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I wouldn't of thought anyone would have any objections, you only making your self look stupid, or maybe they will as your dragging the rest down with you


[edit on 13-6-2009 by Pockets]



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 04:17 PM
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1. Secret
Why is it on Google Earth for all the world to see?

2. Autonomous
Based on what evidence? In what way is it "apparently fully autonomous?"

3. Robot
It looks more like a rock. Or a bunch of rocks.

4. Project

Project implies that there are people working on it. Secret military projects don't just wander around aimlessly in the desert during field tests. If this were a robot being tested, there would be ground and air vehicles following it for observation.

5. Appears to be constructed of very advanced technologically

It appears to be constructed of rocks. But let's say you're right, and it's a robot. How do you know it's "very advanced?" Anyone who knows how to build a remote control and can screw a few electric motors together can build a robot. From a few Google Earth pictures, you claim to be capable of discerning the level of technology being used in the robot?

6. It was located using GE and was found high up in the Southern Groom mountains of Nevada.

As opposed to down in the valleys where nobody can see it. What an odd choice for the R&D crew to make.

7. It's design is also unlike anything that I'm currently aware of in the public domain which is why I believe it to be a military project.

You aren't aware of rocks?


[edit on 13-6-2009 by mattifikation]



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 06:07 PM
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secret autonomous robot



WHAAAAAAAT?




OMG


YOUVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME








One of the most rediculous things ive ever read, even rediculous by ATS
standards.


DUDES imagination has gotten the best of him



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 06:36 PM
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I am unsure about these specific images, but I am sure They are developing robotic armies. This is the only way they can effectively establish martial law. Too many of the live forces (police, army, navy, etc.) are capable of thinking and disobeying.

As to the construction... Why would a robot necessarily have to be symmetrical?As to roads... Where was the cameraman? Maybe on a road...?

And if one has a force that could move over most any terrain, what need of roads would there be?

I'm just sayin'.

EDIT to add: Awfully strange coloration if it's merely a rock, I'll tell you what!

[edit on 6/13/2009 by Amaterasu]



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by mattifikation
1. Secret
Why is it on Google Earth for all the world to see?

At some point in time, most military projects have to be tested out in the open. This implies the possibility, however remote, of disclosure. The US military has complete control of the Groom mountains and so can prevent unauthorized public ground observations. This is not the case with satellite imaging and so they have to take their chances of being observed and schedule tests during minimum overhead satellite activity. Should an observation accidently take place, their best bet would be to not draw unnecessary attention to the test and if disclosure should occur, then to simply rely on the publics apathy and disbelief to let it slip back into obscurity. You only have to read the responses I've been getting to the evidence I'm presenting ... "it's a rock" ... "you're mental", etc. It's almost as if there's an inbuilt disbelief mechanism preventing people from seeing.
Also bear in mind that contrary to public opinion, images on Google Earth are not controlled by the US military as what would be the point when nations such as Russia, China, UK, France, etc have satellite imagery as well ... are you saying that the US military also exercises control over the images produced by these nations ?


2. Autonomous
Based on what evidence? In what way is it "apparently fully autonomous?"

The device has been imaged high up in the southern Groom mountains and examination of the surrounding area indicated no roads, tracks, paths, etc. So for the device to get to that extremely isolated location, it would have to have been airlifted in or alternatively, have made it there under it's own power. Close examination of the image seems to indicate that there is some kind of mechanism under the main body that allows movement and implies that the device is maneouvarable.
Combine this with the fact that there also apparently seems to be no indication of support personnel in the immediate vicinity implies that the device is exhibiting potential autonomy and because of the ruggedness of the location, may also be coupled with a degree of AI for navigation, decision making, etc



3. Robot
It looks more like a rock. Or a bunch of rocks.

So according to you it's a big cylindrical yellow rock on top of a flat, wedge shaped green rock ? How you see a rock is completely beyond me !

4. Project

Project implies that there are people working on it. Secret military projects don't just wander around aimlessly in the desert during field tests. If this were a robot being tested, there would be ground and air vehicles following it for observation.

Unless it was autonomous and AI capable and that these very qualities were under test. Simple scenario: see how it copes with rugged terrain in getting from point A to point B on it's own.

5. Appears to be constructed of very advanced technologically

It appears to be constructed of rocks. But let's say you're right, and it's a robot. How do you know it's "very advanced?" Anyone who knows how to build a remote control and can screw a few electric motors together can build a robot. From a few Google Earth pictures, you claim to be capable of discerning the level of technology being used in the robot?

Examine the images very CAREFULLY !

6. It was located using GE and was found high up in the Southern Groom mountains of Nevada.

As opposed to down in the valleys where nobody can see it. What an odd choice for the R&D crew to make.

Why odd ? Surely a device such as this would be tested in all possible working environments.

7. It's design is also unlike anything that I'm currently aware of in the public domain which is why I believe it to be a military project.

You aren't aware of rocks?

Such a ridiculous statement.
[edit on 13-6-2009 by mattifikation]



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 12:50 AM
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Rather than quote you, I'm just going to write replies based on the same system I used earlier of numbered points.

1. Secret

Military test flights and robot tests have been kept from the prying eyes of civilian satellites for years. Back in 2000 I did a school report on how you can enter in a location and get satellite views. Many of the images then were copywrited for 1998 and 1999. Google Earth isn't a new source of images, it's merely a new way of presenting something that we've been doing for over a decade. And yet, suddenly now they let something slip?

2. Autonomous

If it were a robot, it could have a remote control system. Autonomy means it operates on its own, without an operator or a remote controller. Like the Terminators, the machines in The Matrix, or the robots from IRobot. You can't just say it's autonomous because it's in the middle of nowhere, because you have no evidence that it didn't get there on its own. Just because it can be maneuvered does not mean it does so on its own.

3. Robot

It only looks like a big cylindrical yellow rock on top of a flat, wedge shaped green rock if you look at it from that one specific angle. From any other angle, it looks like a random mixture of red, green, and yellow just like the entire area around it.



That's a crop of a zoomed out image from my Google Earth. It's competely surrounded by odd looking green, blue, and yellow rock formations. Are all of those ones robots also?

4. Project

No dice. Even if they were testing autonomy, their would still be observers present. The purpose of a test is to see if everything works, or if something goes wrong. You can't do that unless there are observers present - but there are not. There's nobody. It's the middle of a desert on top of a mountain. No vehicles, no people, no buildings, and no planes are there to watch the test.

5. Appears to be constructed of very advanced technologically

You didn't even answer anything on this point! You just told me to look carefully. It's a blurry splotch of colors, you cannot discern how advanced the technology is. Here's a little test to give you an example of how impossible it is to tell from Google Earth how advanced something is. Pick a random picture of a car on Google Earth. Now tell me what kind of suspension it utilizes, and how many horsepower the engine is capable of. You can't. It doesn't matter how carefully you look, you still can't tell how advanced the car is. You know why? Because it's nothing but a still image of the object taken of its exterior alone, from a high altitude and in low resolution.

6. It was located using GE and was found high up in the Southern Groom mountains of Nevada.

There are mountains much closer to the Area 51 facility. This location is 17 miles away... you can check it with the Ruler if you want. There's no reason for that.

7. It's design is also unlike anything that I'm currently aware of in the public domain which is why I believe it to be a military project.

How is my statement ridiculous? You've failed to not only prove your original argument, but to even provide any evidence other than blurry pictures with arrows and labels pointing at obscure colorful blobs. It's rocks, man. I know you want to be "that sharp guy who discovered the robot program," but you aren't. You've discovered some rocks that look exactly like all the other rocks in the area.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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what if it was a building? that would be hilarious if only to laugh at the people who knee-jerk scream "its a rock"

i won't say what it is because i havent been there to know

and im betting all of these other people have not been there either, so i guess they are just talking out of their back end


it could be a painting on the ground...a building

heck it could be a garbage dump

or even a Mech Warrior robot lol

who knows, nice photo tho



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 01:34 AM
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Buildings are easy to identify. Buildings, vehicles, and objects that are 18 meters in length are fairly recognizable. Piles of rocks are blurry and tend to look more like... well, this "robot."



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 02:00 AM
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Ok, so you're fixated on "rocks" as being the obvious explanation but please examine the above image showing the central, main body component of the device.

I can't recall ever having seen (naturally occuring) a cylindrical bright yellow rock on top of a flat wedge shaped (with serated front edge) dark green rock and with an additional smller bluish rock shaped like a chess pawn also attached to the flat green rock.

Also take a look at the top centre of the yellow cylindrical "rock" ... see how there's a slightly raised section where the devices neck structure attaches to the main yellow section.

If you can't see that it's an obviously artificial structure then I really don't know what else to say to you.

Look, I'm not here to try and ram my viewpoint down yours, or anyone elses, throat. Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
My reason for posting was to expose something so unusual that I thought it worthwhile letting others know of it's existance. Now, I can recognize an artificial device when I see it even when it's totally novel to my past experience. I came across this messing around with GE and not for one moment did it strike me as being a pile of "rocks" but immediately the artificiality of the object was apparent ... and yes, I can recognize a pile of rocks when I see it and not mistake it for a piece of technology.

Ok, never mind ... no one can acuse me of not trying to reveal something I think is of great significance. It's your loss and apparently the military's gain ... let their research continue and the public remain in the dark ...



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