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Originally posted by internos
I know that it may sound strange, but they are the Sun (left) and the Moon (right):
to represent them in some anthropomorphic (and surrounded by something) way was very ordinary especially during the middle age, basically the Sun and the Moon are represented as some human-like witnesses to the cucifixion:
Now, this would have been interesting if it was some unique case AND if it was corroborated by some report: but on the contrary, not only the thory of the presence of two UFOs comes from nowhere, but there are a lot of examples depicting the same scene in almost exactly the same way: in bizantine paintings, but not only:
James Hall, author of the "Dictionary of Subjects & Symbols In Art" writes:
“ The sun and moon, one on each side of the cross, are a regular feature of Medieval crucifixions. They survived into the early Renaissance but are seldom seen after the 15th century. Their origin is very ancient. It was the custom to represent the sun and moon in images of the pagan sun gods of Persia and Greece, a practice that was carried over into Roman times on coins depicting the emperors.”
(...) The sun is[sometimes represented as simply a man’s bust with a radiant halo, the moon as a woman’s with the crescent of Diana. Later they are reduced to two plain disks, the moon having a crescent within the
circle, may be borne by angels. The sun appears on Christ's right, the moon on his left.”
Even in the very same Decany monastery there are more anthropomorphic representations of the Sun and the Moon, but they have been always omitted to be mentioned by the books/websites supporting
the UFOs during the crucifixion theory
...or they could also have mentioned this example
but aliens flying on wagons drawn by horses and by oxen are not that impressive
Originally posted by YSM85
Very awesome. Thank you. I think the moon/sun theory is a great explanation for that painting. It angers me that so many UFO sites show this painting, but neglect to put it into context by telling the reader that there are many less ambiguous paintings like it. However, there are some even stranger religious painting that depict what looks to be UFOs. Check these out:
What do you think of those?
This is the painting that more than any other has sparked discussions among ufologists, who see in the upper-right scene behind the Madonna the proof of a "close encounter" with an un-identified flying object. In the above mentioned scene we see a character keeping a hand to his forehead and looking towards an apparition in the sky. With him there is a dog, which also looks towards the strange object.
In an article by Daniele Bedini on Notiziario UFO n. 7 (Jul-Aug 1996) it says: «we clearly see the presence of an airborne object leaden in color and inclined to port, sporting a "dome" or "turret", apparently identifiable as an oval-shaped moving flying device».
«...and there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field keeping watch over their flock by night. And lo, an angel of the Lord come upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear ye not: for
behold!, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you was born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord...»
Originally posted by YSM85
Also, do you know of any website that lists the different types of UFOs and the era they were
the most popular?
Originally posted by YSM85
reply to post by internos
Thank you for your response. Food for thought: If these objects in these paintings were spacecrafts (or even meteors, planets, stars, etc.), then it wouldn't be surprising if they were depicted as Gods, angels, demons, clouds, objects with wings, birds, et cetera, because the artists of this time period sorely lacked the scientific and technological knowledge necessary to properly identify such objects. Further, they’d be looking at these objects through the lens of their own belief system and their respective time period. The problem with these kinds of paintings is that you don’t know if these artists were simply attempting to realize God/religion through art, or if they were interpreting and portraying foreign objects in the sky (or space) using their religion and/or their relatively limited knowledge.
Originally posted by Icon_xof
Does anyone know of any "ancient" abduction cases? I know there are like cave paintings and hieroglyphs of UFOs, but are there any documented abductions?
IMHO, probably many years ago, when facing this kind of phenomena, the people tought it was something related with GODS.
Only after the progresses in technology, with the first balloons, the people realized that the flight was possible: before that, IMHO, all the sightings have been seen by the religious/spiritual point of view.
But i can be wrong.
Maybe you'll find interesting this:
For the invisible things of God since the creation of the world are made visible through images.
Thus, the Son is the living, substantial, unchangeable Image of the invisible God, bearing in Himself the whole Father, being in all things equal to Him, differing only in being begotten by the Father, who is the Begetter; the Son is begotten.
The Father does not proceed from the Son, but the Son from the Father. It is through the Son, though not after Him, that He is what He is, the Father who generates.
In God, too, there are representations and images of His future acts,-that is to say, His counsel from all eternity, which is ever unchangeable.
In Defense of Icons,c730
The problem with these kinds of paintings is that you don’t know if the artists were simply attempting to realize God/religion through art, or if they were interpreting and portraying foreign objects in the sky (or space) using their religion and/or their relatively limited knowledge.
[edit on 13-6-2009 by YSM85]