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Topic started on 12-6-2009 @ 09:27 PM by johnny2127
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Many people have this notion that Democrats have all along been the leaders of civil rights. Alas this is not true. Even today, the bigotry of low
expectations have done more to hold minority groups back than to help then.
With this is mind, I thought I would help educate many of you.
Many people do not know that the civil rights movement was first started by Republicans. Professors and the media today gloss over the fact that when
Republicans freed the slaves under President Lincoln, it was Democrats standing opposed. When the vote came to Congress on Emancipation Proclamation,
every single democrat voted against it, while every republican voted in favor of it. It was republican principles, ideals and blood that was spent to
free the slaves. It was republicans that lead the effort to pass the 13th Amendment officially making slavery constitutionally outlawed. It was the
Democratic Party that stood opposed. Republicans passed the first Civil Right Act legally extending citizenship and equal right to all, regardless of
race. The Republicans passed the 14th Amendment requiring all states to give due process of law, and equal protection of the laws to all races. Every
single Republican voted in favor, while every democrat opposed.
Every single African-American Congressmen until 1935 was a Republican. The first African-American governor was a republican. Colin Powell was the
first African-American National Security Advisor and Secretary of State. Condoleezza Rice was the first woman to serve as the National Security
Advisor. The first Hispanic governor was a Republican. The first Hispanic US Senator was a Republican. The first Asian American US Senator was a
Republican. The first Asian American Federal Judge was a Republican. The first woman elected to Congress was a Republican. Secretary of Labor Elaine
Chao amazingly was the first Asian American woman in any president’s cabinet. The first women allowed to be delegates to a national convention were
Republicans. The first Republican Supreme Court Justice was republican Sandra Day O’Connor, who before that was also the first woman in any state to
be the Majority Leader in the Legislature.
Republicans led the movement for women’s right to vote, and as a party the democrats opposed this right. Every leader of the early feminist movement
were Republicans, including Susan B. Anthony, Lucretia Mott, and Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Two of the leading African-American suffragists, Ida Wells
and Mary Terrell were Republicans, and also were co-founders of the NAACP.
It was Republicans that integrated professional sports. Brooklyn Dodgers General Manager Branch Rickey was an outspoken supporter of race integration
and Republican, as was Jackie Robinson. Those most outspoken to sports integration were southern democrats.
The Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court decision was written by a Republican Chief Justice appointed by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower.
That Republican Chief Justice, Earl Warren, was a three-term Republican Governor in California, and was the Republican nominee for Vice President of
the United States in 1948. Roughly three years after this Supreme Court ruling, President Eisenhower won passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1957. The
important thing to note here is that Eisenhower was the first Republican President in four administrations. Democrats controlled the White House for
four administrations and did not pass a single civil rights bill. Not one. It was U.S. Senator Everett Dirksen that authored and introduced the 1960
Civil Rights Act. Individually he was the most responsible for the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as he was the Republican leader who
crafted the strategy that overcame long odds and tenacious Democratic opposition to the Bill. After all, it was entirely democrats that filibustered
the Bill and it was Dirksen that overcame them. When the Bill was finally passed it received significantly more support from Republicans than
Democrats.
In 1976 it was republican President Ford who repealed democratic President F. Roosevelt’s now infamous executive order interning 120,000 Japanese
Americans during World War II. None of the numerous democrat Presidents before him felt it necessary and democrats role in the interning has been
glossed over.
Amazingly, Democrats have been widely credited as the leaders of the civil rights movement and the torch bearers of equal rights. How did this happen?
The fundamental difference is Republicans believing in freedom of opportunity while most democrats believe in equality of results. While a basic
republican principle is that every individual should have the freedom and opportunity to make of themselves what they choose, democrats take it a step
further and try to legislate actual outcomes. Slowly over generations democrats created a welfare state where sadly they have made many people
dependant on the government. They have fostered the idea within minority groups that Republicans want to keep them poor and want to take away
government assistance. Republicans are losing this war of words and ideas. Republicans need to better articulate why they oppose a system of perpetual
government assistance. Republicans need to illustrate that their principles unshackle people from government assistance and allow the human soul to
sour with the pride of success and self dependence.
Democrats have now elected the first African-American President. And while we do not support his policies, this achievement is something Republicans
should be proud of. For his achievement was made standing on the shoulders of many Republicans. Republicans laid the foundation for an America where
all races and sexes could elect an African-American President.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:48 PM by WTFover
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Star and flag from me!
Thanks for a well thought out, well written, informative and factual post.
I am always surprised at how many Republicans aren't aware of this.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:51 PM by crmanager
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Oh my.
You are going to be as welcomed with this post as a hooker in church but well done anyway.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:56 PM by johnny2127
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Originally posted by crmanager
Oh my.
You are going to be as welcomed with this post as a hooker in church but well done anyway.
LOL, that is hilarious. Of course, a hooker should be welcome in any church. As I tell my Democrat friends 'Democrats are just uneducated
Republicans'. Of course thats a joke.... but it always riles 'em up.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:12 PM by secretagent woooman
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Thank you for pointing out a piece of forgotten history. People who self describe as Democrats are often a sick lot, they see to be the party of
choice for sex offenders in my area. Not to mention that many of those self-described liberals aren't so liberal when comes to hiring or paying real
live "colored" folks. I worked for a Democrat-controlled paper for a decade that refused to hire black editors and reporters, and even offered them
about $3 less per hour than the white male applicants.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:22 PM by johnny2127
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Originally posted by secretagent woooman
Thank you for pointing out a piece of forgotten history. People who self describe as Democrats are often a sick lot, they see to be the party of
choice for sex offenders in my area. Not to mention that many of those self-described liberals aren't so liberal when comes to hiring or paying real
live "colored" folks. I worked for a Democrat-controlled paper for a decade that refused to hire black editors and reporters, and even offered them
about $3 less per hour than the white male applicants.
That is too bad. I in no way have anything against Democrats. I think most are intelligent, well intentioned people. Most of the time Republicans
and Democrats even want the same things. But the disagreement is how to accomplish those things.
In my opinion, what being a Republican means has been widely misconstrued and most Democrats really do not understand it. However, that is the fault
of Republicans for letting themselves be defined by their political opponents. Good thing is, there is so much history and philosophical evidence
that if people can just articulate what being a Republican means, there will be many converts.
By definition of what a Republican stands for, they should have the biggest most accommodating tent of all.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:25 PM by Alxandro
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:27 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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Excellent post! S&F!
Can't wait to see the HuffPo post in response to this.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:38 PM by johnny2127
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Thanks.  I, in all honesty, do not think Democrats are racists. But I think that unintentionally many of their policies are racist in long term
effect. Many times the democrat party seems to be the party of unintended consequences. Their intention is to help, but end up hindering many times.
It is very sad to see the accomplishments of many minorities demeaned through the racism of low expectations.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 11:06 PM by Southern Guardian
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Your forgetting the great political migration of the 60s and 70s, when dixie democrats became republicans and many republicans moved towards becoming
Democrats. The Republican stance changed during the late 60s/70s chasing away those who advocated civil rights towards becoming democrat where civil
right support began to increase. Even Reagan himself discussed the great swap over stating that the Democratic party was not the party he supported
and in that case himself and his fellow conservatives moved over the the republican side... and this was following the wide spread civil right
policies implemented by the Dems, vice versa.
The Republicans of today are not the Lincoln Republicans of yesterday.
Originally posted by johnny2127
Many people have this notion that Democrats have all along been the leaders of civil rights. Alas this is not true.
Your partly right. I believe that there have been some republicans and independents who pushed for the civil rights movement aswell, despite them been
signficantly smaller in participation.
Protestors durings the 60s came from both sides of the political sphere, it is important we first acknowledge that before we debate anything.
It was the Democratic Party that stood opposed. Republicans passed the first Civil Right Act legally extending citizenship and equal right to
all, regardless of race.
Yes, and did you know that the majority of african americans during the 60s considered themselves Republican? Just tell me what happened following
that, why was there a sudden shift in civil right policies? As expressed in my first post, the great shift.
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reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 07:17 AM by KarlG
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OK... all I'm saying is... I'm going to be staying away from this thread.
I know when I'm outnumbered, lol.
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reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 10:57 AM by johnny2127
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True. Good point.......
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reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 11:15 AM by Witness2008
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Todays Republican war of words and ideas are much different than those of Lincolns administration...even that of Reagan.
It has never been about the label...it is the package.
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reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 01:56 PM by johnny2127
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Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by johnny2127
Todays Republican war of words and ideas are much different than those of Lincolns administration...even that of Reagan.
It has never been about the label...it is the package.
Well that depends what you are talking about. If you mean the Republican voters, then I would say no, they are the same. If you mean the party
itself under GWB than I would agree with you. The party abandoned its fiscal identity and lost power because of it. The party now is trying to find
someone they can rally behind. Their new Reagan. If they listen to their voting constituents they will be fine. If not, they will continue to lose
seats.
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 12:17 PM by johnny2127
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Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by johnny2127
Todays Republican war of words and ideas are much different than those of Lincolns administration...even that of Reagan.
It has never been about the label...it is the package.
What policy wise have you say has changed? I would argue that every Republican still believes in equal opportunities, not equal results.
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy
horse, pulling a sturdy wagon." ~Winston Churchill
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 12:20 PM by Tentickles
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 12:23 PM by johnny2127
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Of course I do not think that Republicans and Neocons are the same thing. I believe you and I were making the same points in one of Grover's
threads. Good thread you posted though. Thank you.
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 01:05 PM by pexx421
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I have made that point about republicans before. BUT!!! I'll make you another statement that many dont like.
All serious social movements to bring about social change for the better....have come from the left! It has historically been the left that drove
every single movement or organization that has resulted in equality, rights and opportunity for the people of our country.
Everything that we think of when we speak of how great our country is, Equal rights for blacks, womens sufferage, labor regulations and laws, etc,
all were movements pushed by the left of society, often largely managed by socialists and communists, and always fought against by the right and the
government with guns abuse and violence.
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 01:15 PM by johnny2127
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Originally posted by pexx421
I have made that point about republicans before. BUT!!! I'll make you another statement that many dont like.
All serious social movements to bring about social change for the better....have come from the left! It has historically been the left that drove
every single movement or organization that has resulted in equality, rights and opportunity for the people of our country.
Everything that we think of when we speak of how great our country is, Equal rights for blacks, womens sufferage, labor regulations and laws, etc,
all were movements pushed by the left of society, often largely managed by socialists and communists, and always fought against by the right and the
government with guns abuse and violence.
Apparently you didn't read what I wrote at all. What you are saying is the exact opposite of what is historically true. Don't believe me? Go do
some of your own research. Look who lead civil rights for minorities, and woman's suffrage. Look at who stood opposed. It Republicans that lead
both movements.... take a look. Read what I wrote.... you may need to rethink what you previously though of as fact.
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 01:21 PM by pexx421
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I have read plenty history, and i didnt say anything about republicans, or democrats. My point was right vs. left. And in all cases it has been
common people, minorities, socialists, progressives, the LEFT that pushed all those issues, meanwhile the RIGHT, business owners, the wealthy elite,
conservatives, government, fought tooth and nail to keep them from getting these rights.
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