I witnessed the true face of humanity tonight, i didnt like it., page 2
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 07:24 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by Jess_Undefined





Well nearing the end of the night at the Hoedown this year and every year, fight after fight seems to break out. And I seen people walking around with there BABIES in strollers. And its really no place to bring your baby or child because of all the drunk people there. And also, a drunk girls climbed up on this huge fountain and fell off, luckily she was okay, but the cops were laughing about it and making jokes, and it really wasnt funny. I was disgusted.


Babies should be home in bed around 8 or 9. The drinkers and partiers always come out after that. The problem is the partiers that bring their kids out late, and those kids would be no better off at home anyway. SO, yes things get rougher towards the end of the night, but that is the adult time!

As for drunks climbing stuff and falling off....GOOD! That is natural selection, better to fall off and kill themselves than to drive home and kill someone on the way.

AGAIN, THE BLAME BELONGS TO THE STUPID INDIVIDUALS, NOT THE ALCOHOL, GOVERNMENT, CURVY ROADS, TEMPTING STATUES OR ANY OTHER INANIMATE OBJECT!


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:36 PM by argentus
reply to post by Elemensa



You did the right thing. I think you're doing the right thing now -- talking about it and bringing the incident to light. You wouldn't have solved anything getting you ass kicked, or worse.

Don't second-guess yourself on this -- what you're doing now is a brave and realistic thing and you have my respect.

We can't accomplish any tangible good by sacrificing ourselves, with few exceptions. You live there. To have engaged these people would have put you at foolish risk in the future. Many adults with half your maturity would have walked away from the incident and put it out of their minds, safe in the thought that "better you than me" and they might feel safe. For now.

Goodonya

edit to add: I am also dislexic. I didn't notice a single bit of it in your OP, or subsequent posts. I think you have a good handle on yourself. I find that when I am really passionate about something, and typing quickly, that's the point where I will transpose characters. Ironic -- I've been tested as typing 90 wpm, but what good is that if they're words only I can read?



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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:52 PM by Donnie Darko
Originally posted by Elemensa
reply to
post by AccessDenied



You raise a good point, its generally been my idea of thinking tonight. It's just strange how in times of desperation people seem to revert to animals. My town isnt exactly known for having dozens of drunks in the streets , i just cant help but wonder what path lies ahead for us all.

As a species we've come so far and yet we havent left this sort of barbaric behaviour behind us, maybey we never will


It's because people deep down still believe in revenge and looking out for #1.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:18 PM by _Phoenix_
reply to post by Elemensa



Yeah I live in UK too, I've had enough of these chavs who love violence and are gangsta wannabes and why the hell is everyone stabbing everyone these days, it's like a damn hobbie!?

I hate it especially when they come up to me and ask for money or drugs, such a hassle. Do I look like a drug dealer just because I'm around their age? wtf?


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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:12 PM by Grumble
Originally posted by AccessDenied
reply to
post by Elemensa



Understand this though, the real evil of a drunk is not the man but the alcohol that makes him act that way..and even more so, those who make it and allow it to be sold.
A drunk is as much of a victim.
In times of crisis WE ALL revert to survival mode, and we always will....human instinct. Technology can make our lives simpler, but it can never really change us.


No, the real evil of a drunk is the drunk. It is not a disease, it is bad behavior.

And, no, we do not all revert to survival mode. We are not animals, incapable of rising above our more primitive instincts.

There is no excuse for such behavior. Evil is real, and it is a choice which is made by the individual.


reply posted on 19-6-2009 @ 02:14 AM by Cool Breeze
Originally posted by Elemensa
reply to
post by UFOTECH



I guess theres two faces to our species. One is the dark primitive side, and the other is the one of a person who dreams of a better world and wants to be apart of something greater. I hope one day the whole world is made up of the latter.


I would like to add a third face... the face of the people who see the world as it is... something that drastically needs to be fixed. I too am tired of young men acting as if they own something like their turf or maybe even something else. I (and many people I know) have in more than one instance put them in their rightful place and tried to show them that this is not the way the world should work. If the people who dream of a better world start to stand up and unite against the ones attempting to bring anarchy and show that we are sick of the way things are happening then the world will have a fighting chance at being a far better place for everyone.

Just my 2 cents

Breeze


reply posted on 19-6-2009 @ 01:21 PM by Itachimaru
Man o man I cannot stand chavs or the American equivalent , I had a run in with a little gang of them in London last year, they picked a fight that they were severely outmatched, but I digress. The world has become a new and more dangerous place even from when I was a kid ( I'm 30 btw) the worst thing that happened was that maybe someone got stabbed, there were shootings here and there but that mostly in the city and in known high gang activity areas.

It's amazing how far society has degenerated in just a short time, in part I blame the popularizing of the "thug life" mentality thats being broadcast through various outlets. They make that kind of life appealing to the younger generation, and they are constantly inundated with it, from all sides at all times.

I also lay the blame at the feet of the people who have made parents feel like criminals for disciplining their children and have given children who can be spiteful the power to have their parents thrown in jail over an accusation. I do not condone child abuse of any kind, but sometimes little johnny need a swift kick in the ass because the time-out isn't doing it anymore. If you beat your children I believe that you should be punished, but there is a clear difference between punishment and abuse.

I also think that some blame lies with the kids themselves, sometimes there just isn't anything you can do with them no matter what you try. That's life, when that happens if you have done your best, then that's all you can do, some kids are just born douchebags and that will never change.

I agree, that we should really put our focus in America on cleaning up this mess first, I agree about keeping America safe from foreign enemies, however we need to keep her safe from domestic enemies as well. We need to worry about our own backyard first, let's help the homeless here, or the inner city children who get lulled into the gang life. Maybe cut back the glamorization of the thug life and show them there is another way.

I kind of lost my original point while typing this as this issue is something that is near to me, because of my particular martial art background and personal ethics, I am that guy who steps in when someone is being harassed on the street, like it says in my siggy "If you require an opponent, I will fight you. If you want to taste the ground, feel free to attack me" and I just know that it's going to be the end of me one day. However, I think more people need to start taking this attitude, it doesn't necessarily have to be a violent confrontation, but starting getting more involved in the community, there is a lot " well it didnt happen here so it doesn't affect me" mentality and that's a big part of the problem.

**Gets down off soapbox**

Sorry, just kinda got on a thing there.


reply posted on 10-7-2009 @ 03:13 PM by ablue07
reply to post by Elemensa


I to am sorry that you had to go thru what you did. I do my best to not live in fear but it doesn't always work. Don't lose faith in the good or the sight of good however hard that maybe at times. I hear the UK (is that where you live?) has gotten pretty nasty of late. I saw some where that London is considered the most violent city in Europe.
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