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Of the approximate ten-thousand six hundred men who fought north of the River, only two thousand three hundred and ninety-eight returned.
Of the rest, including the Polish Brigade south of the Rhine and men who died in captivity, as a result of their wounds or other causes until the end of 1944, one thousand four hundred and eighty-five men had died, and six thousand four hundred and fourteen were taken prisoner, of whom about one-third were wounded.
Official German figures record that they suffered three thousand three hundred casualties in the Arnhem area, with one thousand three hundred of that number killed.
It is certain, however, that these figures are a highly conservative estimate, and further investigations have accounted for at least one thousand seven hundred and twenty-five German dead, and as many as six thousand wounded.
The estimated number of total deaths during the Battle therefore, including four hundred and fifty-three civilians and four hundred and seventy-four aircrew, is in excess of four thousand one hundred
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Reasons 1-10 that people hate Americans - JEALOUSY.
They deny it ... but that's it. That's all the top ten reasons.
That's the truth, if they know it or not.
here come the flames ...
Originally posted by gallifreyan medic
You really can't see it,can you.
Of the approximate ten-thousand six hundred men who fought north of the River, only two thousand three hundred and ninety-eight returned. Of the rest, including the Polish Brigade south of the Rhine and men who died in captivity, as a result of their wounds or other causes until the end of 1944, one thousand four hundred and eighty-five men had died, and six thousand four hundred and fourteen were taken prisoner, of whom about one-third were wounded. Official German figures record that they suffered three thousand three hundred casualties in the Arnhem area, with one thousand three hundred of that number killed. It is certain, however, that these figures are a highly conservative estimate, and further investigations have accounted for at least one thousand seven hundred and twenty-five German dead, and as many as six thousand wounded. The estimated number of total deaths during the Battle therefore, including four hundred and fifty-three civilians and four hundred and seventy-four aircrew, is in excess of four thousand one hundred
Well late,do you think it was an appropriate retort?
Originally posted by gallifreyan medic
You are being the stereo type to a tee.
What must your fellow countrymen be thinking reading this?
A tut and a shaking of the head I would think.
Originally posted by jerico65
Originally posted by Majestic23
Nobody in England blames America for getting involved in the war too late or too early......
Really? That's why the English that I ran into in Germany always called Americans, "Late", as in, "Hey, Late". I found out it was because we entered WW2 "late".
It was easy to shut them up. All it took was one word.
Arnhem
Originally posted by seniord60
Originally posted by mpriebe81
For anybody who is going to come into this thread and defend our country as if it is the most wonderful place in the world--cut the crap, seriously. You say free capitalism, I say corporate capitalism to the nth degree, state-sponsored terrorism, un-educated and ill-informed citizenry, a culture of materialism and hero worship, and in many ways a cesspool of morally corrupt self-obsessed a-holes.
I love the natural beauty that can be found here, and I love what this country is supposed to stand for, but I hate what we have become and where it seems that we are headed.
Ok, I'll say it. It is the most wonderful place in the world. Who has more freedom? who has more protection? who has more rights? We arent
perfect, not even close. But, there is not a better place on earth.
Originally posted by gallifreyan medic
Either you have a bad attitude in general,or you have been sinking a few tins.
Whichever it is I am not stooping to your level,the level the retort you made stooped to.
That is no different than someone saying twin towers back at you for a silly jibe
you made.
If you still do not get it,then I give up.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
It'd a wonder the English didn't reply by saying, "Vietnam!".
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Seriously, are you kidding me with this? You sound like you're one of the few, extremely rare, Americans who learn their history from Hollywood and their morals from good old George W Bush!
Originally posted by subject x
This goes especially for Europeans, due to the fact that they were the ones who started this "grand experiment" that we now call the United States.
So if/when the fine people of other countries start in on the "I hate America" bandwagon, be sure to save some of that hatred for your own country for the part you played in making our country as good or as bad as it is today.
I'm really getting tired of being told why America is horrible and why I should hate the country I was born in. SHUT UP!
Originally posted by Shadowflux
I'm really getting tired of being told why America is horrible and why I should hate the country I was born in. SHUT UP!
Originally posted by Shadowflux I'm surprised that no one ever mentions the total arrogance needed to fabricate this fantasy that America is so unspeakably great that EVERY nation in the world hates us.
Originally posted by ShadowfluxMy family came over on the Mayflower, there was NOTHING here but a bunch of trees and some Indians, in as little as 300 years my family and those of other Americans built this great nation into the super power it is now.
Originally posted by ShadowfluxIt wasn't like it was handed to us, we had to fight multiple wars to keep it, we had to sacrifice sons and brothers, endure horrible conditions, do back breaking sometimes deadly work, we had to build this nation with our own hands and you know what?
Thats what makes us Americans!!!!!
Originally posted by ShadowfluxI'm not ashamed of my Country, I don't feel bad because other people don't like us and I sure as hell will never turn into one of those self loathing Americans who might as well move to Canada anyway.
Originally posted by ShadowfluxIf we had lost the Cold War then there would be articles about the "Top Ten Reasons the World Hates Russia".
Originally posted by ShadowfluxI'm not usually the blind patriot type but I've had it up to here with people trying to make me feel guilty for being a citizen of the greatest nation on the face of this Earth, especially when we object louder than anyone when our Government does something we don't approve of and we're able to object because of our wonderful American freedoms!
Originally posted by Shadowflux
I must say, that I feel as though I am freer than you are as I am able to create my own opinions and then voice them through any medium I desire. I am able to live by my ideas and opinions and defend them because I am free.
Originally posted by Shadowflux
lol
You're going to have to try harder than that to get me to turn on the country my family built.
Originally posted by ShadowfluxI know we have short comings and we've done a few things that are regrettable in the right light but I still have enough back bone to stand up for this great nation.
Originally posted by ShadowfluxIf you don't think we're free than I'm afraid you haven't spent enough time here. Just ask people in any number of countries controlled by an oppressive regime and they will tell you the same; America is the land of the free!
Originally posted by ShadowfluxI must say, that I feel as though I am freer than you are as I am able to create my own opinions and then voice them through any medium I desire. I am able to live by my ideas and opinions and defend them because I am free.
Originally posted by ShadowfluxIf you want to hate America than go right ahead, I'd just suggest you don't ever try and live here.
Originally posted by ShadowfluxWhat country do you live in by the way?