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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:35 PM by grover
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I did not say that all conservatives wanted him to win... never even suggested it... in fact I stated quite clearly that I hoped my conservative
friends would be just as outraged as I was....
The requirement to quote the article title accurately prevented me from changing it to read.... Some right wing neocons rooting for Ahmadinwjad
win.... which would have been far more accurate.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:06 PM by Trunkeight
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BREAKING:
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has won.
He scored 66.19% of the vote
Here's the WIKI link
en.wikipedia.org...
Seems he canned facebook operating in the country throughout the election..
I'd say the Neo-Cons would be dancing, but, I doubt they have enough core humanity to even have awareness of their bodies.
peace.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:17 PM by johnny2127
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Originally posted by Trunkeight
I'd say the Neo-Cons would be dancing, but, I doubt they have enough core humanity to even have awareness of their bodies.
peace.
Like your company is the hate of conservatives Grover? I love the hate that someone like this writes, then they say 'Peace' at the end. Hypocrisy
knows no bounds. For the record you do seem to be a good chap Grover.....
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:26 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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Actually, I'm hoping whoever receives a majority of the vote gets the Presidency. I don't remember seeing any of my Conservative friends with 'Vote
Ahmadinejad' bumperstickers on their cars, either. But, this is from Huffington, so you should take it for what it is, a story slamming conservatives
from an extremely socialist source.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:32 PM by Southern Guardian
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isnt it obvious grover? Hasnt it become apparent to you? The fringe hardliners and neocons needs Ahmadinejad... and Ahmadinejad needs the fringe
hardliners and the neocons to continue support from the Iranians.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:39 PM by zazzafrazz
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He has little power regarding rules. That is run by the clerics alone. The clerics even chose the candiates to run  They shortlist it to 3.
Technically this role is a mouthpiece with economic management and international political muppetry.
The Iranian people are so lovely. His represenatation of them is poor on the world stage. His rhetorics are deliberatly placed to back up the hardline
Sharia law of the clerics and the Ayotollah. The crucial issues rest still with them.
He has manged to keep Iran from complete implosion to the goverments credit (and questionable activities at times). The outcome of this election will
not sharply alter Iran's main policies, including its relationship with Washington. This still remains with the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei.
So 'conservatives' either way dont need to worry who gets elected as the power base remains the same.
Its really just a concern for conservative sensabilities that a hard line Islamic regime have ultimate power in a country with resources and nuclear
capabilites.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:41 PM by XD9611
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Do you have any IDEA of the definition of NEO-CON, i think not. I also believe you dont listen to the radio and tv personalities you mention in your
thread. You demonize them, yet they are the voices speaking out against the riff-raff that continues to plague dc. They have not claimed to be the
leaders of conservatism, yet MANY people listen and follow their ideas because it falls in line with their own thought trane. A neo-con is one of YOUR
left wing kooks that fell of the wagon. I think the OP's post has no validity because MOST Americans would like to see ahmadinejad GONE FOR
GOOD..............
EAGLES FOR ETERNITY
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:45 PM by centurion1211
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Edit to change my response to "Why bother posting a response to this ..."
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 07:48 PM by RRconservative
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
The OP used THE LEFT WING HUFFINGTON POST for the story.
Ya' really can't believe anything they print. Bias and agenda.
The same people that use George Soros funded websites to spew their propaganda are the first one crying foul when FOX News or WorldNetDaily as a
source.
I am a Conservative (duh) and I would like nothing more than to see Ackiminajihad have a humiliating defeat.
For a conservative to be a "neo-con" he first had to be a liberal. Alot of people don't realize that. So most people who use that term are almost
always half wrong.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:05 PM by andrewh7
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The rest of us are hoping that he loses. A victory will be further justification for Israel to launch an unprovoked attack and lead us into another
war. Personally, I think we could save a lot of money spent toppling governments if we didn't establish and fund those government in the first
place. The "evil Arabs" we're taught to hate and fear were once employees of the CIA, e.g., Sadam, Bin Laden, etc. Unless Bin Laden has developed
Nano-thermite, I'm not worried. Plus, he's been dead since 2001.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:07 PM by andrewh7
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Originally posted by FlyersFan
The OP used THE LEFT WING HUFFINGTON POST for the story.
Ya' really can't believe anything they print. Bias and agenda.
For a conservative to be a "neo-con" he first had to be a liberal. Alot of people don't realize that. So most people who use that term are almost
always half wrong.
That makes zero sense at all. Let me guess - you think the KKK guy who shot up the Holocaust Museum was a liberal too? Maybe you thought that the
guy who killed Dr. Tiller was also a liberal? So, any conservatives who turn out to be crazy violent must have been secretly liberal?
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:09 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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Um, better the devil we know than the one we don't?
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:11 PM by Trunkeight
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Originally posted by johnny2127
Originally posted by Trunkeight
I'd say the Neo-Cons would be dancing, but, I doubt they have enough core humanity to even have awareness of their bodies.
peace.
Like your company is the hate of conservatives Grover? I love the hate that someone like this writes, then they say 'Peace' at the end. Hypocrisy
knows no bounds. For the record you do seem to be a good chap Grover.....
Ever heard of a thing called HUMOR johnny2127??
C'mon, those guys desperately need the mickey taken out of them considering their contribution to humanity
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:12 PM by zazzafrazz
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"better the devil you know"
Possibly
But his opposition campaigned on green policies, support for womens rights (his wife is a faculty dean IN Tehrain) reducing unemployment and
stabilizing relations with the west.
How much he could actually have achieved with the supreme ruler and the clerics was probably going to be mininal.
Rememebr always Iran is NOT ruled by the president.
It is ruled by the Ayotollah and clerics. It is a ISLAMIC state under sharia law, not democratic laws.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:19 PM by RRconservative
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Originally posted by RRconservative
For a conservative to be a "neo-con" he first had to be a liberal. Alot of people don't realize that. So most people who use that term are almost
always half wrong.
Posted by andrewh7
That makes zero sense at all.
Thanks for proving my point. Bet you use the term all the time and have no idea what it means. You're not alone, so don't feel bad.
Neo = New Con = Conservative.
If you have been conservative all your life, you can not be declared a "neocon".
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:21 PM by XD9611
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Originally posted by andrewh7
The rest of us are hoping that he loses. A victory will be further justification for Israel to launch an unprovoked attack and lead us into another
war. Personally, I think we could save a lot of money spent toppling governments if we didn't establish and fund those government in the first
place. The "evil Arabs" we're taught to hate and fear were once employees of the CIA, e.g., Sadam, Bin Laden, etc. Unless Bin Laden has developed
Nano-thermite, I'm not worried. Plus, he's been dead since 2001.
Your statement regarding his 2001 mortality, way off base. He is still alive, much to the chagrin of many ops agents.
Save money?? what is your life or your families life worth to you? i would spend every cent i had fighting for my cause..........................
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:22 PM by GorehoundLarry
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Originally posted by debz325
Also if you want to talk about bafoons perhaps you should look at your left wing bafoons that want to give rights to muslim radicals.Root out the evil
from your own party before you start telling me what to do with mine.
Christian radicals are given rights.
Muslim radicals deserve rights too.
So don't try to act smart here.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:24 PM by XD9611
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Kudos RR, many dont know the TRUE definition of neocon, guess we have to keep hammering it until it sticks eh!!
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:26 PM by XD9611
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Can you clarify WHO these christian radicals are? because the muslim radicals make the news quite often, for suicide bombings and killing of innocent
civilians. What have these so called christian radicals done??
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:34 PM by Fremd
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that's only true to an extent
It only takes "one" liberal to become a conservative to start a "neo con" movement
you can, by sheer human will, change your midn no matter what affiliation you happen to be, this is true
but the "neocon" movement is addressing the conservative idealistic foundation in more modern terms.
It's more of a rebellion to the old conservative ways than anything.
Personally - i don't see how one can take pride in saying "Im not a neocon, im a real life conservative"
that's like saying "I believe in the same ideals as white america in the 50's"
if you're a true and true conservative, then nothing has ever changed for you - since hte very beginning of conservatism, by your OWN feeble
standards
if you've gotten past racism, segregation, sexism, etc, then you're a NEO CON because you've moved past the bigotry of the time in which
conservatism was founded and bigotry was embraced.
Unbelievable.
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