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Topic started on 12-6-2009 @ 02:54 PM by grover
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Right-Wing Neocons Rooting For Ahmadinejad Win
www.huffingtonpost.com
 American neoconservatives have often used the presidency of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to bolster their case for aggressive action against Iran. So
the assumption might be that they would be rooting for Iranians to take care of the problem themselves by electing reformer Mir Hossein Mousavi in
today's vote..
Instead, they're rooting for the anti-American bogeyman to stay in power.
Middle East Forum Director Daniel Pipes said in a speech at the Heritage Foundation that he would vote for Ahmadinejad if he could...
American Enterprise Institute's Michael Rubin told National Review's Kathryn Jean Lopez it might be better for Ahmadinejad to win, because a loss
might give Obama the impression that diplomacy was working...
Other neocons, worried a shift in power will signal a fresh start relations with Iran... (visit the link for the full news article)
[edit on 12-6-2009 by grover]
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 02:54 PM by grover
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I should hope my conservative friends would be as outraged by this as I am.
The same people who hawked the Iraq invasion on bogus grounds now want the hard liners in Iran to win... so we can continue down the same old tired
path of confrontation and aggression.
Heaven forbid should diplomacy and reason be given a fair chance...
We should want reasonable people in power no matter the nation.
Hawks to the bitter end.
www.huffingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:02 PM by Romantic Rights
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While it certainly is no stretch to believe that neocons would *want* Ahmadinejad to stay in power, I personally believe it makes no difference who
comes out on top in the Iranian presidential election.
The true and final power in that country resides with Supreme Leader Khamenei, not any figurehead president. A lot like the US, except our men behind
the barbed curtain aren't all religious extremists.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:29 PM by LostNemesis
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Ahmedinejad is a Philosopher. He is a writer, a thinker.. and yes, a figurehead.
He is an intelligent man, and many of the citizens in Iran love him, and think he does what is necessary for them. Hey, to each their own.
Whether he is in power or not, you guys are right, those Neocons will still want war. That is what they crave, I think, when it comes down to it.
Blind 'patriotism' and debt turns them on.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:30 PM by damwel
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I think it's about time that conservatives realize what these neocons have done to your movement and your party. I would assume that you would be
outraged. I am and would be if I were a conservative. These buffoons have been making fools out of you guys for years now. Step up and take back your
party! Show the door to Limpbaugh, O'Reilly, Novak, Bush, Cheney, all of them. Make conservatism something to stand by and be proud of, not just a
means for a few to use to consolidate their own power.
My opinion anyway...
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:33 PM by debz325
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Well I am a right wing conservative and I dont want him in office.I want him dead.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:36 PM by Styki
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Well they might get what they want. I dunno if anybody has seen this yet but things are certainly looking good for Ahmadinejad right now.
www.cnn.com...
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:36 PM by debz325
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Also if you want to talk about bafoons perhaps you should look at your left wing bafoons that want to give rights to muslim radicals.Root out the evil
from your own party before you start telling me what to do with mine. 
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:42 PM by Sundancer
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It's not going to matter who wins, the US is going to blow the crap out of Iran. War is money, oil is money and we have plenty of willing cannon
fodder.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:47 PM by Rockstrongo37
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LOL www.huffingtonpost.com ....enough said. This is so far from the truth it's pathetic. As a "rightwing" type myself, I certianly do NOT hope
that he wins. The greatest accomplishment of that election is that peace can be brought to Iran by someone who wants to live at peace with the west.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:48 PM by Daz3d-n-Confus3d
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Originally posted by LostNemesis
Ahmedinejad is a Philosopher. He is a writer, a thinker.. and yes, a figurehead.
He is an intelligent man,
LOL! He is a nut job. I don't have one conservative friend who wants him to win the election.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:49 PM by AgentX09
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Whom ever prevails in the election will still follow the orders of the ruling mullahs,obviously.As they have since 1979(islamic revolution).
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:50 PM by Fremd
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Yeah i found it quite laughable that Rush Limbaugh on his show today was bragging about a huge turn out for the Iran Achminajad (i can't spell it, i
dont' care)
saying "see, folks, this is a huge turn out for a CONSERVATIVE president"
So....on one hand he's evil and needs to be taken out of power
but on the other hand he's a conservative and should be worthy of praise
how anyone can still feel comfortable to associate themselves with these idiots from the GOP is so incredibly beyond me.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:52 PM by daddyroo45
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I get a real kick out of the spin that some people put on things. Does anyone know a self proclaimed neocon? This is a moniker that news media have
produced to illicit response. Just like Farahkan liberalism is meant to illicit a response.
People need to stop falling in the same old mindset traps. Does it matter who Iran elects as president? Will a new President change the hearts of his
people over night? Imho, no to both questions. When are people going to stop the end fighting and look as a whole toward the goal. Freedom and peace
for all.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:53 PM by LeaderOfProgress
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 04:03 PM by jjkenobi
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Of course nobody knows any conservatives who want that election result. That's because the article is about neocons or neo-conservatives. They are
only referenced by the extreme left and the liberal media. Much like the elusive Chupacabra rarely seen in the wild.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:10 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by Daz3d-n-Confus3d
I don't have one conservative friend who wants him to win the election.
No real conservative wants him in office.
Not many on the left like him either.
The OP used THE LEFT WING HUFFINGTON POST for the story. 
Ya' really can't believe anything they print. Bias and agenda.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:13 PM by spacedoubt
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To be fair, this whole story was constructed around that quote from Rubin.
If he's a appointed Neocon spokesperson, I suppose there is some accuracy to the story.
The quotes from other Neocons are fairly accurate. This election has nothing to do with who is really in power. Whoever wins will still be tasked with
sending verbal barbs to the Western world.
I hope Ahmadinejad loses. It's not looking good though. Sounds like he's won, at this point.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:20 PM by sos37
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Well as a conservative, I can tell you that whomever the Huffington Post is quoting damn well doesn't speak for us all. Frankly I don't give a
rat's ass who wins or loses over there as long as they quit stirring the hornet's nest when it comes to Israel. If Iran wants nuclear power for
energy, fine, whatever, cooperate with the UN security council and do it the right way. I've no opposition to any country using nuclear energy as
I'm a big believer in nuclear energy over fossil fuels any day. But use it to construct nuclear weapons like North Korea did, however, and I say we
have a big problem.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:29 PM by johnny2127
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Your problem Grover is that you see this as Republican versus Democrat, Conservative versus Liberal. You make blanket statements about all
conservatives based on your impressions of a few. Within each party and political movement, people are all over the spectrum. While I am sure some
conservatives are rooting for Ahmadinejad to win, I guarantee some liberals are as well.
There is not one opinion of a party or movement, and what you need to learn is both major parties are made up of moderates. The extreme rhetoric from
liberals like you hurt your party, the same way that extreme rhetoric from hardcore Neocons hurts the Republican party. Stop painting with such a
broad brush and being so hateful to those that don't hold the same opinions as you.
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