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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:14 PM by cautiouslypessimistic
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Donnie Darko


So what you are saying is that you would rather have me rape your kid than embezzle your money?


No! What I'm saying is corporate fraudsters destroy thousands of people's lives.

No, they destroy their financial life. Rapists and child molestors destroy REAL lives.


But sometimes they do destroy real lives. People kill themselves over it.

They can lose their homes, their spouses, their way of life ... it is very much a damage in a way similar (though different) to victims of sex crimes.


It is a choice to let finances destroy your life.

Sexual abuse doesnt give you that choice.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:16 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Donnie Darko


No, they just take your money. You can go make more money, but a child who has been molested or a woman who has been raped can never get their innocence or sense of security back. I agree with cautiouslypessimistic, you need to go do some volenteer work with victims of such crimes.

Trust me, if someone swindled you out of your money, you would want them locked up for a very long time, but if some sick b@$#% raped your kid, you would want his/her head on a pike!


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:18 PM by Donnie Darko
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Donnie Darko


No, they just take your money. You can go make more money, but a child who has been molested or a woman who has been raped can never get their innocence or sense of security back. I agree with cautiouslypessimistic, you need to go do some volenteer work with victims of such crimes.

Trust me, if someone swindled you out of your money, you would want them locked up for a very long time, but if some sick b@$#% raped your kid, you would want his/her head on a pike!


There is hope for victims though. Maybe the reason they never recover is because people tell them they can never recover.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:21 PM by cautiouslypessimistic
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Donnie Darko


No, they just take your money. You can go make more money, but a child who has been molested or a woman who has been raped can never get their innocence or sense of security back. I agree with cautiouslypessimistic, you need to go do some volenteer work with victims of such crimes.

Trust me, if someone swindled you out of your money, you would want them locked up for a very long time, but if some sick b@$#% raped your kid, you would want his/her head on a pike!


There is hope for victims though. Maybe the reason they never recover is because people tell them they can never recover.


Please, go do some volunteer work.

Most of these people HAVE to be surrounded by support, people telling them it's okay, reassuring them, helping rebuild their self confidence, or they dont make it.

The ones that get that support survive, but are scarred for life and never the same(most of the children end up with deep mental trauma that takes an entire life of therapy to even begin to get through).

The ones that dont get support dont last very long.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:26 PM by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Donnie Darko


OK, then let's try this from a different angle. Someone who is guilty of corporate fraud will never be in the position to do it again. A child molester or rapist, however, WILL almost definitely offend again if given the chance! I would much rather have Bernie Madoff move next door to me than a sexual preditor!

[edit on 12-6-2009 by JaxonRoberts]


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:29 PM by Donnie Darko
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Donnie Darko


OK, then let's try this from a different angle. Someone who is guilty of corporate fraud will never be in the position to do it again. A child molester of rapist, however, WILL almost definitely offend again if given the chance! I would much rather have Bernie Madoff move next door to me than a sexual preditor!


That is a good point. I agree with you. However, someone like Madoff is still a sociopath and could hurt people in other ways.

I think people have more sympathy for him because he's rich. That's why people aren't calling for R. Kelly to get the electric chair ...
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