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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 11:41 AM by Nightchild
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Originally posted by Imago Dei
reply to post by Nightchild
This is not true. In actual fact, I have come to conclude that every forum related to conspiracies is a breeding ground and front for the
disemination of luciferian lies like this. The biggest conspiriacy lie of all times is being fed to people right now, and it is this - Jesus and
satan are the same and or that lucifer game to our rescue us in the garden.
This is the biggest load of balderdash total hogwash, it is totaly satanic luciferian evil lies right ou tof the pit of hell. Jesus Christ is the
Lord, he is God, he claimed to be God and this is why he was crucified, although he was crucified by choice to pay for your sins. Read the gospel of
John and you will see that everything you say is lies from the father of all lies, Satan.
You sound just like an illuminati pharisee, do you realise that?
Ofcourse He said He was God- He meant that everyone were their own god.  "The Kingdom of God is within You". The people that wanted everyone to
remain fearful and obeying, didn't like that at all, and long story short they therefor got rid of him.
Amazing how many lives "God-fearers" have taken throughout the ages. Not to mention during the Inquisition, when individuals of all ages and
genders, down to the age of Two, were burnt alive. Yeah, that's the religion of the All loving God, for ya.
I sound like an Illuminati Pharisee?
Well, in that case, so be it, And I can now call myself a proud Illuminati-ganger.
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 11:42 AM by 12.21.12
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I think Matreiya and Obama have an odd resemblance and if you do some research on the two, you would learn that Obama was in Kenya at the same times
that matreiya has appeared.
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 11:52 AM by Nightchild
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Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by Nightchild
I think Matreiya and Obama have an odd resemblance and if you do some research on the two, you would learn that Obama was in Kenya at the same times
that matreiya has appeared.
Indeed. I will tell you a secret; I was earlier this year, CONVINCED that Obama were Maitreya. However, after an interview with Benjamin Creme some
months ago, were an ATS-member asked him if Obama was Maitreya, Creme answered:
No, Mr Obama is absolutely not Maitreya. I doubt that Mr Obama has ever heard of Maitreya. He may well be inspired by the ideas which have emanated
from Maitreya over the years. These have been articulated by Share International for many years and are now being repeated by more and more people as
the economic crash, predicted by Maitreya long ago, becomes a reality. Maitreya has waited until now to come forward openly because only now has the
impending crash come to fruition, thus bringing many people – one of them, hopefully, Mr Obama – to see the reality of the need to change
direction.
Who knows. *Shrugs*
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 11:56 AM by 12.21.12
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Yeah but of course Benjamin Cream of all people would say that. They wouldn't want to spoil the ending. Think about it.
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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 01:14 PM by silencer
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Lol, these crazy Christians....
The concept of God is so contradictory that the only way I'll believe in an all powerful mighty being sitting in the heavens is if he came down to
earth and slapped me in the face and proved his miracles to me.
I do however believe that the elites, the ruling families, the ptb, etc. from the ancient times have deceived people into believing in the concept of
God. They considered themselves Gods. And some guy somewhere started writing about these Gods in a metaphorical sense. Look at ancient religions from
all over the world. They have so many similarities that it can easily be shown and has been shown that all the cultures speak of the same God with
different names. All the different regions had their own elites/Gods who ruled them. It probably started with one family and the power spread to few
more families as they intermarried. To this day, these few families rule the world and control its wealth.
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 04:24 AM by Imago Dei
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Originally posted by silencer
Lol, these crazy Christians....
The concept of God is so contradictory that the only way I'll believe in an all powerful mighty being sitting in the heavens is if he came down to
earth and slapped me in the face and proved his miracles to me.
I do however believe that the elites, the ruling families, the ptb, etc. from the ancient times have deceived people into believing in the concept of
God. They considered themselves Gods. And some guy somewhere started writing about these Gods in a metaphorical sense. Look at ancient religions from
all over the world. They have so many similarities that it can easily be shown and has been shown that all the cultures speak of the same God with
different names. All the different regions had their own elites/Gods who ruled them. It probably started with one family and the power spread to few
more families as they intermarried. To this day, these few families rule the world and control its wealth.
The thing is when Jesus walked this earth performing astounding miracles left right and center, evidently they still didn't believe in him including
some of his deciples who travelled with him everywhere for three years. So I dare say if he came down and slapped you upside the head all you'd be
left with was a sore head.
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 04:30 AM by Imago Dei
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Originally posted by Nightchild
Originally posted by Imago Dei
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Ofcourse He said He was God- He meant that everyone were their own god.
Umm no he didnt, if he meant that he would have said so. Satan on the other hand did say we are like God.
"The Kingdom of God is within You". Does not mean we are Gods.
PS, trundling out the old "religious wars" arguement - doesnt give you cartblange to misquote and misinterpret what the scripture says and means.
Its a meangless read herring and has nothing to do with the point in question. Usually trundle out when one i sroundly thrashed.
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 12:42 PM by silencer
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Originally posted by Imago Dei
The thing is when Jesus walked this earth performing astounding miracles left right and center, evidently they still didn't believe in him including
some of his deciples who travelled with him everywhere for three years. So I dare say if he came down and slapped you upside the head all you'd be
left with was a sore head.
See, that's the problem with that theory. There is no proof that Jesus performed these miracles. The Bible talk about these miracles. No other
scientist, scholar, philosopher, educated person, etc. mentioned Jesus. If a guy managed to do those miracles even today, he would be considered God
and millions and millions of books, TV shows, media would talk about it. Yet, Jesus didn't get all the attention that he deserved. I wonder
why.....maybe because he was no more real than the war on terror, or bugs bunny, or the flying spaghetti monster.
In my opinion, Jesus was a fictional character created by the Gods/Elites to deceive people into believing that If all of us became servants of God
like Jesus, we would go to heaven. Lol. Christian religion hold as much water as scientology. All blind faiths.
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 04:24 PM by watchtheashes
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You're really not going to like these times then. Because this star is really in the sky. Creme if anything has the "credit" you are so desperately
seeking and the proof. I know it's there nightly. Along with Venus. But it's not Venus. I don't much care for it other than it shows the people
I'm warning that I'm telling them the truth for their need of proof.
So think about it. If there is an Anti-Christ that means there is a God in Heaven and His Son died for humanity's sins on the cross. So you can't
have the opposing in the text of the Bible without the Son of God existing as well.
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 06:59 PM by XXXN3O
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Originally posted by silencer
The Anti-Christ, the light bringer in my opinion is the 'good' guy vs Jesus Christ, the 'bad' guy. Satan persuaded Adam to eat from the tree of
knowledge and revolt against the all powerful, controlling, vengeful God.
We are always taught from birth how to be 'good'; Don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, resist violence, etc. We also have the 10 commandments to
direct our lives.
But wait, stop and think for a second in modern terms.
God - TPTB, The NWO, The elites.
Jesus - Lobbyist
Satan - The one guy who resisted the control of mankind and tried to teach them to think individually and not follow a 'religion'.
Jesus taught good things as mentioned above, but he also taught us to worship God and the concept of hell and heaven, etc. In other words, the good
things were a mask to show us that he is a benign buy, while behind the scenes he was teaching us to obey the all powerful elites and keep us in check
by lobbying for them.
The elites are the people who control the world, they can make your life or destroy your life. They are God. They want to be worshiped and hate people
who go against them. They punish them by making their life hell on earth.
Satan opposed these guys and tried to teach man to think for themselves and lead their life the way they want, a right they have since birth but that
is never practiced.
The elites are the guys who cheat, steal, murder and do all the 'bad' things, yet they are the Gods who control the world. We are taught that we
will be rewarded for being nice and good people. However, the majority of the people lead their lives just working hard and barely getting by.
Doesn't it seem all too familiar?
I think the Anti-Christ will be people who stand up to these corrupt people and demand their rights back. These people will demand free electricty,
free water, less dependency on oil and other natural resources, etc. All the things that our governments already know how to do, but they don't due
to their greed for money and power.
This is why, the anti-Christ is shown as someone evil and always used in a negative sense. Jesus, the lobbyist, is shown as the most loving man to
walk on earth. Both Satan and Jesus never existed, but their stories were made up to make sure the people follow the wrong guy and stay in their place
and never revolt against the Gods. To this day, the false biblical stories are used to control people and keep them in check.
TPTB are scared of the Anti-Christ (The people who have awoken and eaten from the tree of knowledge) toppling their regime. We need to educate people
and get them off heavenly fruits like drugs, alcohol, etc and give them a poisonous apple, it maybe bitter at first, but when they wake up and
realized how they are being scammed then it will be 'true heaven' after that.
In over a year on ATS I have never said a comment like this but I will say it now and I pray I wont be the last because I have read threads like this
for far too long on this site.
This is complete and utter blasphemy, nonsense, lies, trash and utter ignorance of what is actually the truth that is written for anyone who wants to
see it.
Topsy turvey strikes again. Look in the mirror, I dare you, take a long hard look at yourself because I have and I know what I am.
There is only one judge in the end and I hope you realise this.
Because right now, your making a lie from the truth you were given. You are taking something that you dont fully grasp and perverting it beyond
recognition.
TPTB, you dont even know what that actually is do you?
         
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 07:10 PM by SchefSalad
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why would satan care about man? im pretty sure as the story goes he was cast out of paradise because god put man before the angels. This is the issue
i have with satanists first that the entire 666 and all the other bull# people feel they should get tattooed all came from the bible and other such
works and even if satan had followers why would he/she/it care about them except to make em slaves.
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 07:15 PM by watchtheashes
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Iran: "Iman Ali Prophesied a Tall Black man Will Rise to Power in the West Just Before the Return of the Mahdi"
www.weaselzippers.net...
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Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world? The question has made the rounds in
Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes
from Bahar al-Anvar(meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam. According to the
tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi,
the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West."Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler
in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt
that he is with us." In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and
Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's
tradition. Mystical reasons aside, the Khomeinist establishment sees Obama's rise as another sign of the West's decline and the triumph of
Islam.Obama's promise to seek unconditional talks with the Islamic Republic is cited as a sign that the U.S. is ready to admit defeat. Obama's
position could mean abandoning three resolutions passed by the United Nations Security Council setting conditions that Iran should meet to avoid
sanctions.Seeking unconditional talks with the Khomeinists also means an admission of moral equivalence between the U.S. and the Islamic Republic. It
would imply an end to the description by the U.S. of the regime as a "systematic violator of human rights."
So he comes before the real threat. He has a mark on his face, that mole, that Maitreya does not have.
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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 08:40 PM by Imago Dei
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Originally posted by silencer
Originally posted by Imago Dei
The thing is when Jesus walked this earth performing astounding miracles left right and center, evidently they still didn't believe in him including
some of his deciples who travelled with him everywhere for three years. So I dare say if he came down and slapped you upside the head all you'd be
left with was a sore head.
See, that's the problem with that theory. There is no proof that Jesus performed these miracles. The Bible talk about these miracles. No other
scientist, scholar, philosopher, educated person, etc. mentioned Jesus. If a guy managed to do those miracles even today, he would be considered God
and millions and millions of books, TV shows, media would talk about it. Yet, Jesus didn't get all the attention that he deserved. I wonder
why.....maybe because he was no more real than the war on terror, or bugs bunny, or the flying spaghetti monster.
In my opinion, Jesus was a fictional character created by the Gods/Elites to deceive people into believing that If all of us became servants of God
like Jesus, we would go to heaven. Lol. Christian religion hold as much water as scientology. All blind faiths.
It is written that if every word Jesus was to have spoken was recorded there would not be enough room on the planet to hold all the books that would
be written about Him. Jesus is known and embraced as the saviour by millions throughout history, he asked for no more credit than this. It was the
gods/elites of this world that put Him to death, which achieved the exact opposite of what they wanted to achieve. His deciples, in a very short space
of time, near turned the world upside down. They were well on the way to converting the whole world until the movement was somehow quashed by
Constantine in about 300 AD. Near 100 hundred million have been martyred throughout history for a crime none other than not recanting that Jesus
Christ is saviour and Lord, and still the beautiful truth has not been silenced.
I will never attempt to silence your truth other than to state that your truth is a lie. The absolute truth IE THE TRUTH, will never be silenced.
Would you be prepared to die for your truth? If not then you are not alive yet.
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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 01:00 PM by silencer
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Originally posted by Imago Dei
It is written that if every word Jesus was to have spoken was recorded there would not be enough room on the planet to hold all the books that would
be written about Him. Jesus is known and embraced as the saviour by millions throughout history, he asked for no more credit than this. It was the
gods/elites of this world that put Him to death, which achieved the exact opposite of what they wanted to achieve. His deciples, in a very short space
of time, near turned the world upside down. They were well on the way to converting the whole world until the movement was somehow quashed by
Constantine in about 300 AD. Near 100 hundred million have been martyred throughout history for a crime none other than not recanting that Jesus
Christ is saviour and Lord, and still the beautiful truth has not been silenced.
Please provide some sources for what you claim. And also provide sources that are independent of the bible. Please provide me with one source, that
actually talk about all this and talks about Jesus which is not referenced from the bible.
In reality, all the talk about Jesus and God comes from citing and sourcing the bible. There is no proof that the words in the bible are true. I would
suggest you do more research on your religion before you blindly follow it. Read some unbiased independent material about your religion and open your
eyes. I could write a book and claim I was God, and if someone asked me for proof, I would ask you to refer to my book for proof. What would you do?
Laugh in my face.
I will never attempt to silence your truth....
Statement from you.
other than to state that your truth is a lie.
Contradictory statement from you right after that.
Classic sign of a Christian. Always contradicting yourselves just like your God does. He's all loving but if you don't follow his rules he will
throw you in a fire for all eternity. If a human did that, we would give him the death sentence, yet God is worshiped. Go figure?
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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 01:09 PM by silencer
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Originally posted by XXXN3O
In over a year on ATS I have never said a comment like this but I will say it now and I pray I wont be the last because I have read threads like this
for far too long on this site.
This is complete and utter blasphemy, nonsense, lies, trash and utter ignorance of what is actually the truth that is written for anyone who wants to
see it.
Where is this truth written? This absolute truth that you believe so much in? So much that any other theory is blasphemy, nonsense, lies and utter
ignorance??? Please tell me it's not the Bible you are talking about, because if you are then seriously how brainwashed are you.
There is no proof that bible speaks the truth, nothing to backup its claims, not a single ounce of proof.
Because right now, your making a lie from the truth you were given. You are taking something that you dont fully grasp and perverting it
beyond recognition.
TPTB, you dont even know what that actually is do you?
I am making a lie from the 'truth'. ROFL    
I see how brainwashed you are. The Gods/Elites have succeeded. The lobbyist Jesus has managed to convince the foolish humans that God actually cares
about them.
Satan tried to awaken people by 'bringing light' to the darkness in front of their eyes. He tried to feed people from the tree of knowledge. He
tried to convince people that you are no one's slave. you are independent, you have free will, you are an individual, you are capable of thinking on
your own and deciding your fate. But Jesus and God managed to convince people that Satan is bad and now the Gods rule the world, because the blind
sheep will never revolt against them.
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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 01:59 PM by watchtheashes
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The best proof comes from the Bible itself and taking it literally not allegorically in every single instance. Jesus did what he did for us so that we
may also have eternal life and redemption from sins, but no man has not sinned except Him. The Anti-Christ is on his way, so that means the real Jesus
Christ must also be coming soon. This time it's not an error but this really is time for repentance. The first link is an example of the best
anti-codes matrix versus a tight chapter matrix from Isaiah about Jesus. So the best skeptic's example vs the best proponent's example. But remember
above all the Word of God is what is the point of doing all this research was for.
To see a report on how the cluster compares to the skeptics' example purporting to show that codes can be found in any book and more:
www.biblecodedigest.com...
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Then here is this language miracle of Gematria:
Words and phrases in different languages add up to certain numbers or dates and relate to each other more than statistical coincidence would allow. In
this example it's English:
ENGLISH GEMATRIA = 888
SIMPLE ENGLISH = 888
LANGUAGE MIRACLE = 888
GEMATRIA: CODE OF GOD = 888
SAVED IN JESUS = 888
SCRIPTURES = 888
GOD'S PERFECT BIBLE = 888
GOSPEL PARABLES = 888
ABOMINABLE HADES = 666
MARK OF BEAST = 666
THE HAND OR HEAD = 666
A BIO-CHIP DEVICE =666
A CHIP SCANNER = 666
DIGITAL ID CHIP = 666
CRYSTAL ID = 666
MONDEX CHIP = 666
VERISHIELD = 666
AI SYSTEM = 666
CURSES GOD = 666
Is there a God? 666
PEOPLE SIN = 666
HELL: A REAL PLACE = 666
HELL: TWICE DEAD = 666
NEW AGE CULT = 666
MAITREYAS = 666
CREATED BY MAN = 666
WICCAN PAGANS = 666
ZENU LIES = 666 (Too bad for Scientology)
SANTA CLAUS = 666
FOLLOW MAN = 666
FAVOUR MAN =666
BELIEVE IN MAN = 666
America Sins = 666
US of America = 666
New York = 666
25 of December =666
Geneticist=666
Vaccination=666
Adolf Hitler=660
Osama Bin Laden=660
Christmas=660
saddam hussien =660
hung by neck =660
saddam hung =666
adolf hitler =660
heil hitler=660
the gas chamber =660
prisons =660
pope liars =666
illuminati =666
follow man=666
President=660
Perdition=660
Martial Law = 660
False Market=666
Stubborn=666
Unruly=666
Illusion=666
Book of the Dead=666
Jesus is Lord = 906
Jesus Christ = 906
Jesus Power = 906
Son of the Lord = 906
Lord’s Prayer = 906
Holy Spirit = 906
Lord of Hosts = 906
Through Love = 906
Jesus Glory = 906
Jesus Is Alive = 906
Redeemer From God = 906
Jesus Sacrificed = 906
Shed Blood For Man = 906
Prophetic King = 906
Unconditional = 906
Healing Promise = 906
Love is the Law = 906
The Bible Code = 540
Holy Bible = 540
The Jews = 540
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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 04:02 PM by silencer
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And you bring bible as your 'proof'. You try to prove the words of the bible by using the words of the bible as proof.
Your theory about Jesus and God is as good as my theory which I mentioned in detail many times before in this thread. We both do not have proof's,
but we have theories. So acting like your theory is the absolute truth is not gonna get you anywhere. At least I base my theory from what I have
observed and researched on and not blind faith.
There is numerous material with compelling evidence on the following topics:
Jesus never existed
God originated from worship of the sun
All religions have a common ancestry; hence the similarities in religion
Origin of man
Loopholes in the bible
Contradictions in the bible
Origin of the bible
True history of man
Vatican's lies
Pope's secrets
I could go on and on, the list is almost impossible to put on here. I would suggest you do some reading and some research. Look at ancient artifacts,
books, papers, etc. and try to connect the dots.
I didn't just sit around and come with a theory off the top of my head. After a lot of research, I figured I would present my theory in a nutshell in
very simple terms.
Elites are Gods, who created the fictional guy Jesus to promote their agenda, Satan is shown as evil because he opposed the Gods and their hunger for
power and suppression of mankind. Satan is not one man, but anyone who is against the elites is labelled satanic, anti-christ, evil, bad, lucifer.
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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 07:11 PM by watchtheashes
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The Elites worship Satan meaning there must be the other side of the spectrum to or God and His Son Yeshua/Jesus. Why do you still ignore it despite
the facts that you wanted? I know for a FACT the Bible is encoded as shown by this research, and since all it ever mentions is what the book mentions
anyway and events in human history, I'd say you know who the Author of The Bible might be right?
You think the Bible is contradicting yet it makes no contradictions. It's a beautiful work of Divine Art and should really be taken more seriously in
the 21st century. It's God's Word to humanity. If God sees wiping the Earth of all its life because they choose to ignore and acknowledge Him as
purification and renewal with the promise of Resurrection then that sounds fair to me. I'm not an unbeliever, but I'm here to warn believers
and unbelievers alike. Of course NASA wouldn't tell the general public most of the things they know about the things that "could" happen.
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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 07:53 PM by silencer
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*Banging head against brick wall*
I will follow Alice in wonderland and you follow the bible. Same thing.
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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 10:10 PM by watchtheashes
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You cannot silence the truth of Jesus Christ with your belief in mankind's ability to govern fairly and properly. Only Jesus Christ and God could be
fair and they offer the FREE OF CHARGE gift of ETERNAL LIFE. You can reject it but your need for proof is why Maitreya will win you. Maitreya is the
wrong guy. This is a warning.
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