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Yuri Bezmenov, Former KGB Agent: Turning America to Communism

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posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 06:49 PM
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Is not only President Obama's allegiance which we should question, is the entire administration. Emmanuel Rahm himself has stated on more than one ocassion that every American will be "required' to do some sort of mandatory Community Service. Since when is doing any sort of Community Service "mandatory" part of the American culture?

They are tyring to disarm the entire population because an armed population is harder to control. Things are going pretty bad now, imagine how they will be once they make it illegal for U.S. citizens to own an bear arms, which includes pocket knives now which by the end of this month will become illegal if TPTB in the U.S. get their way.



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posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
There will be genocide in this country, the entire worlds power structure is on the verge of collapse.

I am worried about what is going to happen when it happens. There will be no government to continue these policies. America will essentially cease to exist and will break down into smaller countries.

There is a massive civil war brewing. What he is saying is true, but 20 to 30 years to recover from the decades of indoctrination is a very optimistic estimate.

I feel the fate of the USA is a very bloody civil war and we all know chaos breeds extremism.




If the left only knew whats going to happen they would be pissing on themselves right now. I can't help but feel utter hatred for anyone enspousing leftish views. I have spent 13 years working 9 months out of the country working my butt off to have 50% of my income taxed. I sit in bed at night and I wonder if I didn't have to pay for the war/welfare machine would my house be paid off? Just think of all those responsible people that are loosing their houses I am sure they are thinking the same thing. The left is shouting for higher taxes on the middle class so they can get more freebies like usual. One day when the middle class has had enough blood will be required and there will be plenty enough to go around. So hey Obama supporters keep asking for Your so called change because You are bringing this fate to fruition real fast. Personally I am looking forward to it because after it I won't have some piece of corporate or /welfare trash holding me back by digging into my pockets. Freedom will ring once again in this country maybe a smaller version but thats just as good just as long as my fellow citizens are like minded and want to control their own destiny.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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agree completely on rahm emmanuel. and from what little we know about obama's past, his college roommates and closest friends were pakastani. i'm not sure where any of them have allegiance, but it is definitely not to USA. he is certainly trying to diminish USA in every way, though this started long ago. He's just the latest.

I agree that the current plan to disarm americans is a very bad idea though I believe we have other weapons at our disposal. weapons that we don't necessarily think about. The real problem is that the ideological subversion has gone so far that we cannot trust information that we receive. We cannot trust our own perceptions of that information. Wanting to help our fellow man has been subverted by everything from aid supplies rotting because of corrupt government officials to the onerous cap and trade tax that proclaims to be necessary to "save the earth" instead of just making a few people even richer.

It seems so hopeless, like all is already lost. but i wonder. are we missing something?

yuri said the preparation process had already gone on longer than needed, that whole generations were convinced and ready, but that was 24 years ago, and we are only now entering destabilization. what took so long? do they see a problem that we are missing? we certainly have the people believing in the left ideal. they believe socialism is the answer, will make things better for everybody.

is there something in the american psyche that they perceive as a problem? i hope so. i think back to 9/11. if ever there was the perfect opportunity for chaos, the excuse to impose martial law, that should have been it, but people reacted unexpectedly. yes there was initial panic but after that there was a sense of wanting to watch out for each other. i live a long way from NYC and it was true in my town. there was a feeling of being in one big boat together. I think no one expected that reaction.

I think that there is also an underlying intense stubbornness in americans that is unrecognized. of course i could be wrong, but i suspect that there is some line that if crossed will awaken the anger of the american people toward a government that is betraying them. and I'm not talking about obama. he is the current head of government but we know this has been going on for awhile, and our congress is betraying us, our SEC, all our watchdogs are betraying us. we'll see.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 06:22 AM
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Who should I believe, someone who was in the know, or you?

N.I Anisimov has far more experience in the KGB than what your amateur
Solzhenitsyn had
Solzhenitsyn never had access to soviet archives , and he got them in 1990's he also admitted that his numbers of deaths under Stalin he estimated were incorrect and gave the new estimate of 3-4 million ,check out Two Hundred Years Together, 1795-1995 , written by him , which contains the orgins of USSr and the jewish elites role in soviet genocides of 1917-1922 under Trotsky which were beyond 30 million , a general stat agreed by all russian historians(except the western and jewish ones who fawn over trotsky)



I am in the know of much more than you . my paternal uncle was a former indian communist(whos now disllusioned with communism) who married a Russian , whose maternal uncle was sent to siberian labour camp for 3 years having cut off the fingers of drunk communist party member who misbehaved with his mother .




The amount of people who died in the gulags is believed to be between 9.5 and 30 million deaths, if not more.


the gulags weren't so massive and thats proven by KGB archives ,

and the origins of the massive gulag myths were from the notorious Hearst press and Robert Conquest , who deliberately used flawed statistical methods to come to such ridculous figures
www.stalinsociety.org.uk...



, still doesn't change the fact that there were more than the 5-7 million.


this is not fact . its fiction .

if you refer to Gulags under trotsky , there was no gulag , they would murder you in the worse way possible


Russia is more Capitalistic to those who are part of the elite. the regular people were never given the oportunity to find out anything about Capitalism for obvious reasons. The country is turning more, and more repressive. Various journalists who have been critical of the government, and Putin, have found themselves dead. The Russian government has gone as far as assassinating dissidents outside of Russia, yet you want to claim it is more Capitalistic than the U.S.?.... And BTW the U.S. is going slowly but surely down the same path as the Soviet union with the Socialist programs being implemented, and the erosion of liberties and rights which have been taken away the more Socialist the U.S. becomes.

this is the biggest load of BS i ever read,by the way it was elites of USA who created and funded the trotskyite soviet union , as proven by anthony Sutton several times , stop peddling that propaganda Nyquist writes on his website .

Russia has a flat tax of 15 % and economic rights are much greater . again refer to what David Ben-Gurion stated about 21 century . Ben-Gurion was a zionist .

brianakira.files.wordpress.com...




Oh boy.... No they won't... Among the elite are people from all nationalities, and backgrounds... The elite are not all, nor most Jewish.... You are sounding like Hitler...


another ignorant statement , then explain me how in 1917 ,98% CPSU was jewish ,why possession of protocols of zion led to execution in USSR

I suggest you read Juri lina , under the sign of the scorpion:the rise and fall of the soviet empire and another one Architects of deception
Juri Lina was a former soviet citizen and an estonian journalist who documented that orgin of communism was much before karl marx and rahter from weshaiput , the founder of illuminati and that communism in Russia was created by international bankers in the West
here are some limited chapters of that book
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

www.amazon.com...
This book is quite hard to find, therefore I read the expanded Swedish 1999-edition, but I think you can get a hold of it directly from the author, Jüri Lina, if Amazon is sold out. The book details the occult war that was and is being waged against the World at large and the West especially by dark and evil forces beyond what we can immediately see. Mr. Lina was forced out of his native Estonia by representatives of these very forces, although very few of the goons and low-ranking members of these groups are aware whom they really serve. The book mainly details the rise and spread of Bolshevism in all its forms, from the French, American and more recently "Russian" revolution, and a lot of related issues. The main group behind all this, Lina claims, is the Illuminati. All the Illuminati are freemasons, but not all freemasons are Illuminati, we learn. From the founding of this group and throughout mainly European history, we follow Mr. Lina on a whirlwind of information on the schemers behind most changes in the world, the majority of them for the worse.

The book is divided into 9 chapters; 1. "Myths of the fake communists and the skin-deep Christians" 2. "The Illuminati - Triumph of Secrecy" 3. "Karl Marx - saint of evil" 4. "The Unknown Vladimir Uljanov" 5. "Lev Trotskij - Cynic and Sadist" 6. "How the Communists Seized Power" 7. "Through the Labyrinth of Murder" 8. "The Bloodthirsty Wolf of Kremlin - Lazar Kaganovitj" 9. "US Aid to the Soviet Union" and finally 10. "The Communist Seizure of Power in Estonia". Merely by the naming of the chapters, the book will be labelled with the meaningless label of "anti-Semitic", but as Mr. Lina in every imaginable way shows in his book, talking about the atrocities of Communism and its relatives without the Tribe, makes about as much sense as talking of National Socialism without Germans. But where National Socialism supposedly is guilty of millions of deaths, we'll have to add some zeros to the Illuminati death toll, not to talk about all the uncountable millions of unborn Europeans each day because of their actions or ideas.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 11:20 AM
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do you expect gulags to be set up in US once communism takes hold? No matter which numbers are correct, that's a lot of people going to their deaths. Where do you see us on the timeline that makes such things possible on american soil?



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 07:41 PM
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Earlywatcher, Kombatt98 is a dellusional self named Communist. He wants to blame "Jewish people for the genocides comitted by Communist regimes"....

There are hundreds of dellusional NAZIS claiming that the holocaust never happened, and they give dozens of made up figures and claims to support their lie... The same can be said of Kombatt98. Kombatt98 will also either deny the holocaust existed, or blame the Jewish people and maybe even the west for it...

Kombatt98 is spouting the same propaganda that the Russian government is trying to indoctrinate into the Russian people.


Originally posted by Kombatt98
Russia has had experience with the horrible trotskyite communism , which was funded by wall street and led 25 million deaths from 1917-1922 . it was Stalin who overthrow trotskyite communism and replaced it with state capitalism combined with various elements of socialism(stalin is regarded as a hero in Russia as he stood in defiance to the NWO and severely damaged their plans, so we have this holodomer propaganda which was created by NWO to smear Stalin ) .

www.abovetopsecret.com...

He claims that Stalin freed the Russian people, that Lenin was a puppet of the west, when there is no proof of this except in the dellusional minds of some, and like the Russian government is now claiming, and indoctrinating it's people, Kombatt98 claims Stalin is a Russian hero, despite the fact that Stalin was a murderer like all Communist dictators, and under him millions were murdered, as well as imprisoned in gulags.

It is a known fact that the Russian gulags did not have all these people imprisoned at once, but that amount, possibly up to 40 million, was the combined amount of Russians that were sent one time or another to the gulags.


Kombatt98 seems to be trying to spread the same lies, and propaganda that the Russian regime is trying to do, which includes lying about Stalin's attrocities, and they have stolen 20 years of historical data about the attrocities committed by Stalin.


But now there is a much broader campaign to rehabilitate Stalin and it seems to be coming from the highest levels of government.

Archives seized

The primary evidence comes in the form of a new manual for history teachers in the country's schools, which says Stalin acted "entirely rationally".

"[The initiative] came from the very top," says the editor of the manual, historian Alexander Danilov.

"I believe it was the idea of former president, now prime minister, Vladimir Putin.

"It fits completely with the political course we have had for the last eight years, which is dedicated to the unity of society."

But the campaign goes further than reinterpreting history for schoolchildren. It is also physical.

Earlier this month, riot police raided the St Petersburg office of one of Russias best-known human rights organisations, Memorial.

Claiming a possible link with an extremist article published in a local newspaper, the police took away 12 computer hard-drives containing the entire digital archive of the atrocities committed under Stalin.

news.bbc.co.uk...

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posted on Jun, 16 2009 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Earlywatcher, Kombatt98 is a dellusional self named Communist. He wants to blame "Jewish people for the genocides comitted by Communist regimes"....



Kombatt98 is spouting the same propaganda that the Russian government is trying to indoctrinate into the Russian people.


Originally posted by Kombatt98
Russia has had experience with the horrible trotskyite communism , which was funded by wall street and led 25 million deaths from 1917-1922 . it was Stalin who overthrow trotskyite communism and replaced it with state capitalism combined with various elements of socialism(stalin is regarded as a hero in Russia as he stood in defiance to the NWO and severely damaged their plans, so we have this holodomer propaganda which was created by NWO to smear Stalin ) .

www.abovetopsecret.com...

He claims that Stalin freed the Russian people, that Lenin was a puppet of the west, when there is no proof of this except in the dellusional minds of some, and like the Russian government is now claiming, and indoctrinating it's people, Kombatt98 claims Stalin is a Russian hero, despite the fact that Stalin was a murderer like all Communist dictators, and under him millions were murdered, as well as imprisoned in gulags.

It is a known fact that the Russian gulags did not have all these people imprisoned at once, but that amount, possibly up to 40 million, was the combined amount of Russians that were sent one time or another to the gulags.


Kombatt98 seems to be trying to spread the same lies, and propaganda that the Russian regime is trying to do, which includes lying about Stalin's attrocities, and they have stolen 20 years of historical data about the attrocities committed by Stalin.

[anilov.

"I believe it was the idea of former president, now prime minister, Vladimir Putin.

"It fits completely with the political course we have had for the last eight years, which is dedicated to the unity of society."

But the campaign goes further than reinterpreting history for schoolchildren. It is also physical.

Earlier this month, riot police raided the St Petersburg office of one of Russias best-known human rights organisations, Memorial.

Claiming a possible link with an extremist article published in a local newspaper, the police took away 12 computer hard-drives containing the entire digital archive of the atrocities committed under Stalin.

news.bbc.co.uk...

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SAYS THE joker , who believes that Nibiru is real ..
typical reaction of Nyquist , when he can't deal with things that are not matching his "facts"



There are hundreds of dellusional NAZIS claiming that the holocaust never happened, and they give dozens of made up figures and claims to support their lie... The same can be said of Kombatt98. Kombatt98 will also either deny the holocaust existed, or blame the Jewish people and maybe even the west for it...


this is the biggest load of BS . I ever read . show me , where I denied the holocaust ??




Kombatt98 is spouting the same propaganda that the Russian government is trying to indoctrinate into the Russian people.

and you spout the half-truths spread by West .




He claims that Stalin freed the Russian people, that Lenin was a puppet of the west, when there is no proof of this except in the dellusional minds of some, and like the Russian government is now claiming, and indoctrinating it's people, Kombatt98 claims Stalin is a Russian hero, despite the fact that Stalin was a murderer like all Communist dictators, and under him millions were murdered, as well as imprisoned in gulags.

certainly according to you sheeples , i am lieing and deluded . one thing , those who are communists or have lived in communist state are more open minded than westerners . that is fact .
YOU certainly haven't lived in any communist state and just spread propaganda , that is proven by your attitude and perception .



despite the fact that Stalin was a murderer like all Communist dictators, and under him millions were murdered, as well as imprisoned in gulags.


the nonsense claimed by the western media , whose orgin was due to the notorious Hearst press has been debunked several times by the KGB archives ,which proved that direct deaths due to stalin were 454,000 and indirect deaths were 1.6-2 million , due to deportations of revolting people(like chechen,ingush,Catholic ukrainian,jews etc.) to Siberia and central Asia




Lenin was a puppet of the west


no doubt , lenin and trotsky were puppets of Wall street , as proven by Anthony Sutton's research on this issue which he has documented in his book : the wall street and the Bolshevik Revolution .
cabotia.org...
heres the marburg plan , which proves that international bankers and socialists are in bed with one another , and is the plan OF INTERNATIONAL FINANCIERS TO CREATE A MONOPOLISITIC CAPITALIST-socialistic state :
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The Marburg Plan, financed by Andrew Carnegie's ample heritage, was produced in the early years of the twentieth century. It suggests premeditation for this kind of superficial schizophrenia, which in fact masks an integrated program of power acquisition: "What then if Carnegie and his unlimited wealth, the international financiers and the Socialists could be organized in a movement to compel the formation of a league to enforce peace."8

The governments of the world, according to the Marburg Plan, were to be socialized while the ultimate power would remain in the hands of the international financiers "to control its councils and enforce peace [and so] provide a specific for all the political ills of mankind
www.crossroad.to...


this quote is from the Wall street and the bolshevik Revolution .
also Juri Lina after the researching through the estonian KGB archives ,arrived at the same conclusion , Lenin and Trotsky were puppets of the West and funded by Wall Street .


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posted on Jun, 16 2009 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by earlywatcher
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do you expect gulags to be set up in US once communism takes hold? No matter which numbers are correct, that's a lot of people going to their deaths. Where do you see us on the timeline that makes such things possible on american soil?


as USA economy collapses and americans revolt, mass executions will start occurring throughout USA . i belive that the date will be 2012 .

whats happening today is part of the Marburg plan , which was plan of international financiers and capitalists to create a monopolistic capitlaist-socialist state .


THE MARBURG PLAN

The Marburg Plan, financed by Andrew Carnegie's ample heritage, was produced in the early years of the twentieth century. It suggests premeditation for this kind of superficial schizophrenia, which in fact masks an integrated program of power acquisition: "What then if Carnegie and his unlimited wealth, the international financiers and the Socialists could be organized in a movement to compel the formation of a league to enforce peace."8

The governments of the world, according to the Marburg Plan, were to be socialized while the ultimate power would remain in the hands of the international financiers "to control its councils and enforce peace [and so] provide a specific for all the political ills of mankind."
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www.bibliotecapleyades.net...


heres the evidence as documented by Anthony Sutton :


From these unlikely seeds grew the modern internationalist movement, which included not only the financiers Carnegie, Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, Bernard Baruch, and Herbert Hoover, but also the Carnegie Foundation and its progeny International Conciliation. The trustees of Carnegie were, as we have seen, prominent on the board of American International Corporation. In 1910 Carnegie donated $10 million to found the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and among those on the board of trustees were Elihu Root (Root Mission to Russia, 1917), Cleveland H. Dodge (a financial backer of President Wilson), George W. Perkins (Morgan partner), G. J. Balch (AIC and Amsinck), R. F. Herrick (AIC), H. W. Pritchett (AIC), and other Wall Street luminaries. Woodrow Wilson came under the powerful influence of — and indeed was financially indebted to — this group of internationalists. As Jennings C. Wise has written, "Historians must never forget that Woodrow Wilson... made it possible for Leon Trotsky to enter Russia with an American passport."12

But Leon Trotsky also declared himself an internationalist. We have remarked with some interest his high-level internationalist connections, or at least friends, in Canada. Trotsky then was not pro-Russian, or pro-Allied, or pro-German, as many have tried to make him out to be. Trotsky was for world revolution, for world dictatorship; he was, in one word, an internationalist.13 Bolshevists and bankers have then this significant common ground — internationalism. Revolution and international finance are not at all inconsistent if the result of revolution is to establish more centralized authority. International finance prefers to deal with central governments. The last thing the banking community wants is laissez-faire economy and decentralized power because these would disperse power.

This, therefore, is an explanation that fits the evidence. This handful of bankers and promoters was not Bolshevik, or Communist, or socialist, or Democrat, or even American. Above all else these men wanted markets, preferably captive international markets — and a monopoly of the captive world market as the ultimate goal. They wanted markets that could be exploited monopolistically without fear of competition from Russians, Germans, or anyone else — including American businessmen outside the charmed circle. This closed group was apolitical and amoral. In 1917, it had a single-minded objective — a captive market in Russia, all presented under, and intellectually protected by, the shelter of a league to enforce the peace.

Wall Street did indeed achieve its goal. American firms controlled by this syndicate were later to go on and build the Soviet Union.

Today the objective is still alive and well. John D. Rockefeller expounds it in his book The Second American Revolution — which sports a five-pointed star on the title page.14 The book contains a naked plea for humanism, that is, a plea that our first priority is to work for others. In other words, a plea for collectivism. Humanism is collectivism. It is notable that the Rockefellers, who have promoted this humanistic idea for a century, have not turned their OWN property over to others.. Presumably it is implicit in their recommendation that we all work for the Rockefellers. Rockefeller's book promotes collectivism under the guises of "cautious conservatism" and "the public good." It is in effect a plea for the continuation of the earlier Morgan-Rockefeller support of collectivist enterprises and mass subversion of individual rights.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...


John Rockefeller has outlined his ideas for a socialist american revolution in his book , the second american revolution . the 2008 crisis created by Bush is nothing but a step into Rockefeller's socialist revolution plan , which Bush(now Obama) was helping implement and also a part of the massive Marburg plan , the part of the international financiers for world domination by creating a world captialist-socialist state



posted on Jun, 16 2009 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Kombatt98

SAYS THE joker , who believes that Nibiru is real ..
typical reaction of Nyquist , when he can't deal with things that are not matching his "facts"


Oh boy, when you can't dispute facts, attack the poster, and try to derail the topic...



Originally posted by Kombatt98
this is the biggest load of BS . I ever read . show me , where I denied the holocaust ??


You were denying that Stalin was a murderer, and blamed Jewish people for Communism... You seemed to be on track to deny also the holocaust and again blame Jewish people for it....



Originally posted by Kombatt98
and you spout the half-truths spread by West .


Not really I speak from experience. There are a couple other members who also were born like me in Communist Cuba, and they both can testify to what i said is true.



Originally posted by Kombatt98
certainly according to you sheeples , i am lieing and deluded . one thing , those who are communists or have lived in communist state are more open minded than westerners . that is fact .
YOU certainly haven't lived in any communist state and just spread propaganda , that is proven by your attitude and perception .


The only "sheeple" is you, and those who believe in you, or like you...
i experienced Communism well enough, and I have seen what it does to a country and it's people so don't even try it.

Since you are spreading the same lies and deception that the Russian government is spreading, you are either a dellusional Russian youth, or you work for the Russian government. Or who knows maybe you have never even visited a Communist country and you are another one of those who believes in Communism, which has murdered, and imprisoned more innocent people than all deaths from all World Wars as well as most if not all conflicts in the world in the 20th century combined. Yet people like you still want to install Communism claiming it is the awnser, when in fact the only awnser Communism gives is the worse form of dictatorial regime imaginable...




Originally posted by Kombatt98
the nonsense claimed by the western media , whose orgin was due to the notorious Hearst press has been debunked several times by the KGB archives ,which proved that direct deaths due to stalin were 454,000 and indirect deaths were 1.6-2 million , due to deportations of revolting people(like chechen,ingush,Catholic ukrainian,jews etc.) to Siberia and central Asia


Riiiight, your Russian puppet government had to riot a human rights organization in Russia to take 20 years of data collected on all the attrocities caused by your idol Stalin, so they could indoctrinate Russians into believing Stalin was/is a hero... But fear not, there are several hudred thousands if not millions of people who live abroad from Russia, and there are dozens of scholarly articles with data which shows the truth of your idol Stalin..




Originally posted by Kombatt98
heres the marburg plan , which proves that international bankers and socialists are in bed with one another , and is the plan OF INTERNATIONAL FINANCIERS TO CREATE A MONOPOLISITIC CAPITALIST-socialistic state :


It is actually the other way around, the bankers in the west are puppets of the Communist elite, and they are turning every country in the world into a Communist dictatorship so their ideal of the "worldwide Permanent Revolution" can be attained.

Yet despite you even admitting that the Socialist/Communist elite are in bed with western bankers to implement a worldwide Communist/Socialist dictatorship, you still cheer for it...








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posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 02:22 AM
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Oh boy, when you can't dispute facts, attack the poster, and try to derail the topic..


you can't seem to dispute facts, its you who started with ad hominems like nazi ,delusional etc .. any ways got evidence that your myth "nibiru' is real




You were denying that Stalin was a murderer, and blamed Jewish people for Communism... You seemed to be on track to deny also the holocaust and again blame Jewish people for it

as usual more BS from you .
ok , show me where where i denied Stalin was a murderer . when i admitted that direct deaths due to Stalin were 454,000 and indirect deaths were 1.6-2 million . it meant the deaths due to him . can you even comprehend



as for blaming the jewish people ? I have a question for you . explain me why 98% CPSU was jewish and why possession of protocols led to immediate execution in USSR .why were synagogues not destroyed by bolsheviks under trotsky . why did the banking families,particularly the jewish ones support the USSR so ardently when it was under Trotsky ?
why did Henry ford and winston Churchill blamed elite jewish conspirators along with some gentile counterparts? why does Solzhenitsyn blame the jews in many of his books for the horrors of revolution
www.the7thfire.com...



The only "sheeple" is you, and those who believe in you, or like you... i experienced Communism well enough, and I have seen what it does to a country and it's people so don't even try it.

I too have experienced communism ,visited USSR ,studied here , my aunt and uncles too . they have their good and bad experiences too .



Since you are spreading the same lies and deception that the Russian government is spreading, you are either a dellusional Russian youth, or you work for the Russian government.

its you whos deluded by nyquist propaganda or are Jeff Nyquist himself . who refuses to recognize the evidence that bankers supported communists and were the creators of the marburg plan ., which calls for a global banker controlled corporate capitalistic-socialistic state




who knows maybe you have never even visited a Communist country and you are another one of those who believes in Communism, which has murdered, and imprisoned more innocent people than all deaths from all World Wars as well as most if not all conflicts in the world in the 20th century combined. Yet people like you still want to install Communism claiming it is the awnser, when in fact the only awnser Communism gives is the worse form of dictatorial regime imaginable...

half is fact , half fiction

I visited several when i was young , even saw the racism against Uzbeks by russians for being too islamic in character, when I was sent for further studies . This had appalled me . Today I work in an NGO , which is opposed to GM foods and supports organic foods . some of my tajik and belarussian friends






Riiiight, your Russian puppet government had to riot a human rights organization in Russia to take 20 years of data collected on all the attrocities caused by your idol Stalin, so they could indoctrinate Russians into believing Stalin was/is a hero... But fear not, there are several hudred thousands if not millions of people who live abroad from Russia, and there are dozens of scholarly articles with data which shows the truth of your idol Stalin..


atrocities of Stalin are well documented in KGB archives and certainly not in BS manipulated figures whose orgin was Robert Conquest or the notorious Hearst Press .



It is actually the other way around, the bankers in the west are puppets of the Communist elite, and they are turning every country in the world into a Communist dictatorship so their ideal of the "worldwide Permanent Revolution" can be attained.


funny, eh , the hate and love for something , makes something so bigoted .
it was the banking elite who propped up the trotskyite communist regimes(exception of Stalin who they tried to overthrow several times)
like it or not , its a fact proven by evidence given in Anthony sutton's book :
the Wall street and bolshevik revolution and Juri Lina 's




Yet despite you even admitting that the Socialist/Communist elite are in bed with western bankers to implement a worldwide Communist/Socialist dictatorship, you still cheer for it...



I don't support trotskyites as all , they are nothing but illuminati banker supporters and shills .

its you whos cheering for your own nations demise by just blaming trotskyite communism and refusing to identify the principal backers of this system ,the bankers

It is you whos bending backwards to protect the role of USA and international bankers(many jewish) in deliberately creating and funded trotskiye communism

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[edit on 17-6-2009 by Kombatt98]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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I'm no scholar in this area, but i think that our constitution is being shredded. there is no longer any pretense of abiding by it. there was great outrage at the patriot act but it was accepted because of the danger of terrorism, then extended and extended. now we have an administration making a total power grab over private business and that is being accepted because of the economic collapse.

is there any path back out of this?



posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Kombatt98
Oh boy, when you can't dispute facts, attack the poster, and try to derail the topic..


You are the one showing you can't dispute the facts. You are trying to derail the topic of this thread instead of actually showing real proof, and not the rantings of the Russian government which is turning more and more Communist once again.



Originally posted by Kombatt98
you can't seem to dispute facts, its you who started with ad hominems like nazi ,delusional etc .. any ways got evidence that your myth "nibiru' is real


....Where did I call you Nazi?.... I made reference to Nazis denying the holocaust, because you are trying to deny that Stalin was a murderer, and you claim he was a hero, just like the Nazis are doing with their claims about Hitler being a hero, and that the holocaust never happened, while others claim that there weren't so many Jewish people murdered by the Nazis. You are doing the same things the Nazis do, but you are doing it for Communism, and for Stalin...

You have stated in other threads that you are Communist, so that is not a lie either, and you yourself have been spreading the disinformation that the Russian government has been spreading...



Originally posted by Kombatt98
as usual more BS from you .
ok , show me where where i denied Stalin was a murderer . when i admitted that direct deaths due to Stalin were 454,000 and indirect deaths were 1.6-2 million . it meant the deaths due to him . can you even comprehend


You called Stalin a hero. How can Stalin be a hero when he was the reason why millions of Russian people were murderd?....

You never mentioned the atrocities he caused, and only after I showed facts about his atrocities, then you tried to diminish the numbers of murders as if that meant anything, and of course you give links to questionable websites which are trying to blame the JEWISH people.....

The Russian government was caught, rioting the biggest Human Rights organization in Russia, and which had 20 years of the atrocities of Stalin, so that the Russian government, and Communists like yourself can continue claiming Stalin was a hero...



Originally posted by Kombatt98
as for blaming the jewish people ? I have a question for you . explain me why 98% CPSU was jewish and why possession of protocols led to immediate execution in USSR.


Talk about BS.... There are crazy people out there like you, claiming that Stalin was Jewish, and Trotsky was a Zionist....


These are nothing more than wild unfounded claims by Communists who don't want to admit their ideologies cause nothing more than suffering, and murder....

Stalin was no hero, and the truth about all his atrocities have been confiscated by the Russian government in an illegal raid to keep people from learning the truth.

You are nothing more than a disinformation agent trying to change the image of your messiah Stalin, who was nothing more than a murderer of the Russian people...


BTW, stop giving that BS from a made up lunatic website you keep giving. You are probably even the writer in that website....






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posted on Jul, 18 2009 @ 10:05 AM
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Interesting. I'm downloading the video. I've got to come back later and read this whole thread.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 07:26 PM
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I love this guy. I watched his lecture on Youtube and so many things he said is true. You can really learn a lot from ex-intelligence agents.



posted on Aug, 28 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by DevilJin
I love this guy. I watched his lecture on Youtube and so many things he said is true. You can really learn a lot from ex-intelligence agents.


Yes you can. Let's hope enough Americans wake up in time and see that everything that is happening has been part of a plan for the total control and subjugation of the United States to a Socialist dictatorship.



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