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# New Crop Circle: A Phoenix Rising From the Ashes

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posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:36 PM
Has anyone seen a field report of this circle or heard what was found at the site? Were the plants crushed or bent over? Soil samples? Anything that can prove whether this is man-made or not?

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:38 PM

i would like to see the maths that produces ` 1 million pound losses `

heres my maths :

the maximum realistic yeald for wheat = 150 bushels per acre [ assuming the most intensive farming methods ]

the current wheat price =9.31GBP / bushel [ spot high for the last year ]

1 square killometer [ bigger than any known circle ] = 247

egro - the maximum return from one square kilometer of wheat = < 300 thousand GBP

in reality - farmers get 40 to 80 bushel / acre - and current prices are < 5 GPB

THE REASON HE DIDNT SEAM UPSET IS BECAUSE HE WAS LYING HIS ASS OFF

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:40 PM
I don't think any company would take the risk to contract crop circle makers to violate and destroy private properties, which is against the law by the way.
Everyone seems to know the pranks behind those designs. Were they ever examined or charged ? If their claims are right, how can they escape justice ?

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Maximus_Prime
Oneil. I am mistaken but not sad
. Your connotation can not eat my denotation

-- all of those links are simple shapes too!

[edit on 12-6-2009 by Maximus_Prime]

They all may be simple shapes but it was to prove the point that you don't need to put something so profound in a largely populated area.

Like I said, I do believe there are crop circles not made by any hand on this earth. Such as The Arecibo message in 1974.

Just because the phoenix and jelly fish are a little complex does not mean they cannot be done by humans. NEVER underestimate the intelligence and creativity of the human being.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Manouche
I don't think any company would take the risk to contract crop circle makers to violate and destroy private properties, which is against the law by the way.
Everyone seems to know the pranks behind those designs. Were they ever examined or charged ? If their claims are right, how can they escape justice ?

Granted it is considered a violation or illegal but the money made from the marketing greatly exceeds that which would be made from the crops. Ever consider the farmer gets a cut for allowing this to happen in his field? What about the consideration these are not illegal activities but joint operations by the farmer, the crop circle makers and the company to make a little cheddar?

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:46 PM

Originally posted by wclv13

Is it not illegal to destroy someone's property?? Why are these guys advertising their illegal activities? Better yet, why have they not been arrested?

that's what I was just thinking~! Are they reimbursing the farmers for destroyed crops?? ??!!!

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:49 PM
I don't know if this is relevant, but I was thinking, if it was graffiti artists or who ever, surely they would leave some sort of signature or logo i.e Banksy.I was looking at the latest one in this thread and noticed this in the photo, to the left.

To the right,sorry I took the capture from an upsidedown pic.

[edit on 12/6/2009 by lewtra]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:52 PM

Originally posted by lewtra
I don't know if this is relevant, but I was thinking, if it was graffiti artists or who ever, surely they would leave some sort of signature or logo i.e Banksy.I was looking at the latest one in this thread and noticed this in the photo, to the left.

Thank you for pointing this out.

If an artist did it, they wouldn't want to sign it. I wouldn't at least. Granted you would get recognition for it instantly but why do so when you can stir up the pot a little bit?

The majority of people who do these take progression pictures of themselves doing it which can be later used to say "Hey, we did this 6 months ago. Fooled ya!"

As far as the picture you've linked that looks an awful lot like where somebody would be standing or set up a small camp while doing such a large piece....

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:54 PM

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Originally posted by nunya13

I'm really trying to understand why people keep coming into threads just to call those that believe something they don't stupid (or the equivalent thereof) and mock and ridicule them.

don't you have better things to do than try to bring people down?

i didn't come to mock or ridicule. I read the article from the guardian newspaper and realised my hopes, that crop circles are made by something unknown were shattered. After reading the article it "woke me up from my day dreaming"
Im just trying to deny ignorance and support logic

and you actually believe the newspapers???? come on m8.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:04 PM

Im just more inclined to think that clever little groups of plucky Brits are out there taking the piss. It's a very british way of sending things up. like a Banksy but on a rural scale. people who live in the country have more time on their hands than the average city dweller. No one is really presenting any evidence of it being other than human. untill they do, im gonna have to go with my trusty Guardian

to see the lengths them rural folk go, you should check this video. amazing!

[edit on 12-6-2009 by woodwardjnr]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:08 PM
This is not a sign from aliens. This is indicative of and art form that just increasingly keeps getting more impressive because those who do it are just getting better at it (practice makes perfect). Notice these crop circles, when first brought to our attention they looked like this (nothing but circles and admittedly done by humans)...these are the first crop circles....

or

and over the years they have just morphed into nothing less than an impressive art form. The difference between this crop circle and the first is that there were more people working on this one with more knowledge of this art form, all with the same purpose in creating it and all mathematically inclined. This is certainly NOT conducive to the parallel studies of actual UFO craft (not the obvious hoaxes) that actually dissipate before your very eyes or do aerial feats of imaginary wonder. This is the dumbest way for aliens to communicate to us. For one, these are messages we can't decipher yet they keep writing them (seems a bit pointless), Two, all of the technology we have (TV, internet, phones, 3D Holography, and technology that THEY may have that we don't)...and they write in a wheat field to deliver a message that we can't even read? Third, it seems like a bad idea to deliver a message of peace by destroying our very livelihood that we depend on for sustenance. This is akin to leaving someone a message of hope by spray painting the message on their car. In fact, this is nothing less than beautiful graffiti,......crop tagging, if you will. We, as humans, would get put in jail for doing this (if caught) and it seems only natural that anyone visiting a new planet, would first find out what this planets laws are before destroying property to make a point that no one can understand. One last thing, for aliens to write in a crop field to give us a message after all that we have been through as a people, is an assumption that we are still primal cavemen who can't even understand words and is a slap in the face to our intelligence. Nice way to break the ice! This is just crop tagging and that is all. This is a beautiful piece of art though, I'll give'em that.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by Phenomium]

[edit on 12-6-2009 by Phenomium]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:09 PM

Whoops,this is a reply to Oneals post

This is what I cant understand,there is no logo no sig, nobody claiming to have done them,which in human terms is baffling,seeing most people jump on the next available bandwagon.Maybe it is a publicity stunt.I don't honestly know yet

[edit on 12/6/2009 by lewtra]

[edit on 12/6/2009 by lewtra]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:11 PM
One day, they will find half a crop circle, and a load of college student with their legs caught in bear traps.

Thatl' teach them to ruin crops, and to waste future food.(bastards)

[edit on 12-6-2009 by MR BOB]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:12 PM

I did. Would you dare say those shapes, an olympic logo, a foot and a question mark are anywhere as astonishing that the other shapes from an unknown advertised brand ?
I can imagine well that The Sun or Nike or Greenpeace could have paid or reached an agreement with the owner of the land. Now, in the cases where there is no identified brand, it's a no-no. At one point, the brand must be identified.

The money made from the marketing ? What marketing, where ? What is the viral marketing in a jellyfish ? What money can you make out of that ? Who would pay makers and farmers for this ? Unidentified advertisements ? What for ? It's around and going on for years.

I am trying my best to deny the facts. I don't have any explanation how these circle crops are made. Hoaxers is not a very good explanation. But advertising is really unlikely.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:34 PM
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posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:37 PM
People are talking about those circles sitting on top of one another.

It reminds me most of this type of imagery:

You see all the rising heads above the physical head, those represent the awareness even of our thoughts, and the awareness of being aware of our thoughts, etc., finer and finer levels of awareness and interpreting our surroundings through those.

I think that would even be the most relevant interpretation of these circles in regards to 2012, a growth of awareness. But certainly not the only interpretation.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by bsbray11]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:38 PM

This site is knida like a MMORPG. ('*you cannot perform that move when stunned'*)

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:41 PM

You're not taking into consideration the distance that the photo was taken from and the size of the crop circle.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:45 PM

Originally posted by oneal

Ever consider the farmer gets a cut for allowing this to happen in his field? What about the consideration these are not illegal activities but joint operations by the farmer, the crop circle makers and the company to make a little cheddar?

OK - so now we have a group of circle makers, a company paying them, AND paid-off farmers ALL working together throughout the countryside of England? C'mon -- one of them would talk by now. Think how much money a rag tabloid would pay for an exclusive from a farmer that proved they were faked.

I'm not saying they aren't man-made -- but logically, the more people involved, the more chance of someone talking.

If someone else is willing to pay X to have it made, someone else will pay MORE X to have them ratted out.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by lpowell0627]

[edit on 12-6-2009 by lpowell0627]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:50 PM

It's too soon for a report. It usually takes a few days - one week for stuff like that to appear.

But if you look at the other crop circles from June that have reports, you'll see the expected "bent, not broken...some burned...exploding nodes, etc".

The June reports seem to follow the traditional "crop circle phenomena" pointers.

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