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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:37 AM by FlyersFan
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'African' isn't a race. It's a continent.
My race isn't 'North American'.
Originally posted by Ace High
I agree that is a cute dog in your avatar window.
Is that puppy the real 'gover'? He's cuuuuuuuuuuuuute!
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Its really only the rightwing fringe
You keep using the term 'fringe' ... trying to bore it into peoples heads ... but that's simply not true. And even if it were ... fringers many
times get things right.
By the least back up your accusations with solid proof if you so believe them... Im all ears I assure you.
Which accusations? That he went to a Black Liberation Theology Cult for 20 years in Chicago? I provided the link. The questions about his missing
birth certificate? There are tons of threads. Read up. The facts are there. He's hiding it.
(I don't know if you were around when the edict went forth .. there was only supposed to be one thread on that .... we can't post all that info
anymore. It's redundant.
The burden lies on the accuser and will continue to do so until sufficient evidence is provided.
Ah yes ... provide proof that Obama isn't a citizen or isn't qualified to be POTUS.  Kinda hard when the guy is working overtime and paying
teams of lawyers all across this country in order to HIDE IT.
It would take one long distance phone call ... at no cost to him .... to say ... 'release the damn thing'... and then most all of this chatter could
go away.
Guess that's pretty good proof that something is amiss ... at least it would be if this was an old white guy republican.
can you find another speech made by Mr Wright like the one in March prior to that month?
See the link previously provided about "Obama's Church Not your Average Christian Church'.
See the numerous threads about the Wright anti-white, anti-Jew rants.
Be sure to check out the info about how close Obama and Wright were.
Obama named his book after his mentors (Wright) sermon.
Obama's Friends
Your much better than this Flyers.
I"m just fine and my posts are just fine ... thanks for your concern.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:48 AM by grover
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Totally off subject...
Yes that's my baby... Grover Maxwell Underfoot the great, prince of dogs.    all the photos I use as an avatar are of him.
He just turned 8 years old the first of May... he is 50 pounds of fur and love and as you can tell from the photo he actually smiles. He is a good boy
and a happy well loved doggie.
The SPCA claims he's part Chow which fits since he has a purple splotched tongue, part border collie which also fits since his face is more border
collie than the short snout of a chow plus when he was a puppy he liked to try and herd me (someone needs to keep me in line    ) and part
Pomeranian which is kinda odd but he does have a curly tail and a double coat... and he sheds like crazy... my very own dust bunny factory.
I maintain that his mother was part chow and border collie and his father snuck up from behind...  
Probably with a step ladder.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:54 AM by Ace High
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LOL!!
Dogs are the best. I have a cocker spaniel black lab mix, 2 yrs old and she is the greatest......
sorry, back on topic......
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 10:55 AM by FlyersFan
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We have a beagle named Daisy. She's a typical lazy hound.
Smells to high heaven, even after giving her a bath.
She's taught the neighbor dogs to howl.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 11:21 AM by Berens
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The truth about Obama is bad enough without making up things about him. He UNQUESTIONABLY had associations that one can only describe as showing
terrible judgment on his part -- Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Mrs. Ayers, Louis Farrakahn ( I didn't look up how to spell his name), etc. But that
is not what is important.
What is important is that the man is a liar. He lies about history. He went to Egypt and kissed the posterior of the Muslim world by giving them all
kinds of credit for things they didn't deserve credit for and by running down the good things done for Muslims by the USA. He stood in Saudi Arabia,
a country where women are not allowed to drive and are beaten and killed for breaching medieval moral codes and didn't mention one word about
freedom, human rights, etc. So, he kissed up to them just as Bush did. Unlike Bush, he even praised Muslim traditions, many of which are sadistic,
cruel, and ridiculous.
And even more importantly, he lied about his intentions. He claimed he would "take a scalpel" to the federal budget. Instead, he has passed one
pork-laden bill after another, even encouraging Congress to pass the pork bill so quickly that almost none of them read it. He claimed that he would
post bills online for five days before signing them in order to allow for transparency and public comment -- but he hasn't done so.
The effect of the laws which he advocated, so far, has been to triple the federal deficit which he inherited, and he's been in office for less than
half a year. And he acts as though inheriting a deficit entitles him to triple it without making excuses.
The man's policies are dangerous, and he will say anything to get them enacted. He could urinate on those who are blinded by his silver tongue and
tell them it's raining, and they would believe it.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 11:24 AM by grover
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My other pet is a 14 year old 20 pound black cat named Smokey Stinkybutt whom I berate as a throw rug that purrs... totally useless for chasing mice
but great at emptying the food dish and filling up the litter box.
But he like Grover is a love who has never met an enemy.
Grover and Smokey get along passably well. The only problems I had was before I got Grover fixed he kept trying to use Smokey as a sex toy.
 
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 01:16 PM by The Cyfre
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I love it.
The birth certificate Obama presented was obviously accepted by the FEC. There doesn't need to be another investigation on this matter based on that
fact alone.
I also really enjoy how the fringe right likes to just omit the word CHRISTIAN when talking about Obama's "Black Liberation Theology" church. Yeah,
it's a black liberation theology church. But it's not a cult, it is a christian church. You don't have to agree with Wright's racially-charged
views, and I don't have to agree with "traditional" christian leaders supporting terrorism via anti-abortion rhetoric. The right loves to talk
about Obama's radical friends and how dangerous they are. Well, over the past week we've had an abortion doctor murdered in cold blood AND a
shooting at the holocaust museum. Nice work, fringe right. Those are YOUR guys doing the killing, not the liberals.
I've watched enough conservative news, listened to enough conservative radio to know that they purposefully omit things to make the left look worse
than it is, and they have NO regrets about misleading their audience and making things worse in this country. I've also had enough experience with
the liberal side of the media to know that they're doing the same thing.
I want to see some LEGITIMATE evidence to support any of these ridiculous Obama myths. I don't want to hear "The Powers That Be" are responsible
when you can't fill in that blank with something more concrete. Don't scapegoat the bogeyman, it's the easiest way out and just makes you look
stupid.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 02:25 PM by NWRHINO
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The whole natural born citizen requirement seems to limit our choices as far as choosing the best person for the POTUS job
..but thems the rules so WTF
How about when I go to renew my driver license I just tell the DMV that there is a copy of my birth certificate on my website, that should be good
enough right and I can cite Obama as the president / precedent !
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 02:29 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by The Cyfre
I also really enjoy how the fringe right likes to just omit the word CHRISTIAN when talking about Obama's "Black Liberation Theology" church. Yeah,
it's a black liberation theology church. But it's not a cult, it is a christian church.
No. It's a cult. Just because a person hangs the word 'christian' on something doesn't mean that it really is Christian. Heck .. David Koresh
did the same thing.
I gave you the quote from James Cone. Read his Black Liberation Theology handbook. Educate yourself. It isn't Christian.
So this is the new buzz word from the lefties who don't like Obama being exposed for what he is - 'fringe right'? Gunna' try to get that one
going, eh?
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:42 PM by MysterE
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Why on Earth was my post deemed "off topic" when we just had several posts about dogs not removed? My post showed a pattern of far left
threads by the OP, and thats concidered "off topic"! Ridiculous
-E-
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 04:03 PM by debz325
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Glad to see not everyone on here has a belly full of kool aid.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:38 PM by grover
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Would you have been just as critical of me if I showed a pattern of posting right leaning threads?
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:45 PM by Totakeke
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The birth certificate Obama presented was obviously accepted by the FEC. There doesn't need to be another investigation on this matter based on that
fact alone.
I beg to differ. I will not be thoroughly convinced Obama can be POTUS until he presents his real birth certificate. But hey, if he really IS a
natural-born citizen, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
I also really enjoy how the fringe right likes to just omit the word CHRISTIAN when talking about Obama's "Black Liberation Theology" church. Yeah,
it's a black liberation theology church. But it's not a cult, it is a christian church. You don't have to agree with Wright's racially-charged
views, and I don't have to agree with "traditional" christian leaders supporting terrorism via anti-abortion rhetoric.
Just because a church calls itself Christian doesn't mean it's a Christian church. Obama is most certainly not a Christian. A Christian knows that
abortion is murder; Obama doesn't.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:50 PM by grover
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Right... a bunch of right wing kooks are more on the ball that the FEC. Sure. Tell me about it.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:57 PM by Totakeke
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Originally posted by grover
reply to post by Totakeke
Right... a bunch of right wing kooks are more on the ball that the FEC. Sure. Tell me about it.
The citizens have the right to know whether the man in the White House has the right to be there. If he really is a natural-born citizen why is it so
hard for him to produce his birth certificate? Why spend so much money covering it up?
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 05:59 PM by daddyroo45
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Originally posted by grover
I have said this so often it bores me but the simple truth of the matter is this...
The powers that be in this country will never let anyone who is a serious threat to their best interests anywhere near the White House... if Obama was
as much of a threat as the right likes to make out he would have been shot down in the primaries long before he became a serious contender.
Jeeze is the ground cold? I would have never thought that we could agree on,well anything. TPTB are in control and Obama just as Bush will only be
allowed to do what they are directed to do. One thing though grover. In a pervious post you mentioned something about Bush and co. bending the
Constitution? I have to look and see where in the Constitution it allows for the Government to take controlling stock in private companies. Mr.Obama
and co. may be bending the constitution also.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 06:59 PM by MysterE
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Originally posted by grover
reply to post by MysterE
Would you have been just as critical of me if I showed a pattern of posting right leaning threads?
If my post hadn't been removed I would reference the part where I said you were baiting the Repubs who will ultimatly fire back with comments that
generally lack subatance. It wans't those exact words, but I guess we will never know since the post was removed for being "off topic"
-E-
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 08:45 PM by grover
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Originally posted by daddyroo45
I have to look and see where in the Constitution it allows for the Government to take controlling stock in private companies. Mr.Obama and co. may be
bending the constitution also.
I really don't see why this bothers some people so?
The car companies and the banks came a beggin and the government agreed to bail them out... Now me personally while I do not like the whole bailout
thing... especially of the banks and investment houses etc. Still I would be even more concerned if we had given them billions without some stake in
the outcome.
Keep a tight grip on their gonads is what I say.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:05 PM by daddyroo45
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You may be right. I just can't shake the feeling that there are tendrils of a parasitic plant wriggiling it's way into a choke hold,on the
corporate structure. Government control is an oxymoron.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 09:10 PM by grover
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I am far less concerned about governmental tendrils into corporations than corporate tendrils into government.
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