Does man actually just enjoy killing?

I've always wondered this and thought I'd see
what you all think. Ah, makes me so proud...

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Now we are teaching the kiddies too! Awesome.

I enjoy turkey and deer hunting very much.

So if that means I like killing, then yes I do enjoy killing.

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Hey JD.
At least your honest right?
Dont tell me you voted for bush and the war!
Thanks for the compassionate and most heartfelt reply.
Ever hear of walmart? they have meat you know...
Glad you are so proud of it.
Do you drink the blood of your victims with your son too?
Apparently the only difference in us and cavemen is the size of our sticks.


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I think man enjoys the feeling of "power" that comes from ending another lifeform's life. Well, not all of mankind, but alot of us.

Oh, and I am a carnivore by eating habit *natural tendency?* but doesn't mean I get off on the fact that animals die so that I may eat. It is simply my place in the scheme of things. Life feeds on life.

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You ever tasted deer steak, deer sausage, wild turkey breast and all the other wonderful things that come from them two animals? It taste alot better then beef or any other meat that comes from a supermarket.

Besides the way I kill them be it with my compound bow, black powder or scoped rifle is alot cleaner and humanitarian then what happens to them cows that supply Wal Mart with their beef.

I really don't understand what this has to do with my political vote though.

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Wow, that makes sense.
I'm down with that.
We dont have to enjoy it and teach the young'uns its cool though.
Next they'll take those guns to school and start shooting each other
because they've never been taught right from wrong in the first place.
I know its hypothetical, but alls fun in love and war, eh?
Thanks and good points. There is an alternative ya know...

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Thanks JD for replying. I understand what you are saying but,
have you ever tried chicken and beef that you grew yourself?
How about an egg so fresh it is still warm?
Eating is one thing, killing and actually enjoying the very act is another totally. Get it yet?
Seems like bush enjoyed killing too. Iraqi's. (sorry to go there)

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I enjoy killing. 100%

Killing time that is, which is what I'm doing with this pointless thread

Yep, grew up eating all of that stuff.

You ever gone deer hunting?

Whats the differance in raising a steer for food and going out and killing a deer?

I still don't understand why you are making it out to be something political.

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Those "alternatives" are not for me. I am what I am. And I am unashamed of it. Carnivores are an intergal part of the food chain.

And what Billy Jo Bob Redneck and his little un's do, well, that does not reflect on me. And if my kids ever did decide they wished to hunt I would teach them, but I would also teach them to understand fully what they are doing and to at least show respect.

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Another one I know, it'll probably go on for pages and pages and
someone will inevitably bring up bush. Dang.
Theres always nintendo, it's prolly more informative for shore!
Excellent thoughts and contribution explaining why you feel that way!
Kewl dude! Tanks man!

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My bad, wont happen again.
Yes I used to hunt and still can anytime.
I choose not too. I figure theres enough killing going on
in the world that its actually affecting our collective karma(if you will).
But I dont think I would be able to explain it better than that.
Whether anyone understands it I can only venture to guess.
Simply, we dont need to. We have alternatives.
I can only explain how I feel honestly which is what you have
done here also and I thank you for that.

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I can so relate. I am with ya.
Unfortunately I like da meat too!
But once again hunting for survival is one thing.
Shooting defenseless creatures for the "fun" of it?
Thats barbaric and why we will never progress past our current state.
We are actually lucky we havent nuked ourselves already.
We just enjoy war too I gather.....

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I chock it up what seems to be mankind's power hungry nature. We can and will do whatever we can to believe we are more "powerful/smart/better/whatever" than anything else. We fear the things we can't control "have power over" even if that power is simply delusion by any real analysis. Um, did I get my meaning across alright?

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I know that I certainly don't enjoy killing animals, insects, or even plants. For food, I prefer that someone else do the killing.

Now, humans, are a different story. I discovered while in the military that my internal 'monkey' enjoyed it when I took my first shots at the enemy, it's not something that I particulary like about it, but I do acknowledge it, and control it. Perhaps it is a power thing. There's no challenge at killing animals, insects, or plant life. That 'monkey' is always there when I need it, and it has served me well.

LMAO!

Glad I could help you out! After reading all of your posts, I'm still unsure what this thread is about. You say you think that getting meat from wal mart is better than killing it yourself. Well what the *snip* is that?

Then you disrespect another members point of view on hunting, AND involve his kids in the mix, but then go on to say you used to hunt yourself..again, what the *snip* is that?

You talk about eating meat grown by you, and then say its OK to kill to eat, as long as you don't enjoy it. Where exactly is your stance? You change your opinion like an incontinent man changes his depends.

Then you bitch at me for calling this thread pointless, and instead of trying to sell me on your point (of which I still see none) you want me to explain MYSELF. Are you trolling for replys?

I'll say this as a last comment, if you enjoy MURDERING, i.e. causing the death of a creature for no purpose or provocation, you're sick.

If you enjoy KILLING i.e. the pride you feel at knowing you have the ability to provide for and protect yourself and your family, and can pass those skills on to your offspring, CONGRATULATIONS! you are a part of a select group of people that scratched and clawed their way to the top of the food chain and have sat there dominant for thousands of years. With your skills and abilities you will make sure our species sits there for thousands more.

And don't worry about the pansies that don't want to kill cause it hurts their feelings...they wont make it when and if TSHTF.

Have I explained enough for you? Hope so... now, get your point across so I can debate it and waste more time

Mod Edit; No profanity please

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You choose not to and that is fine. I choose to because the meat is better for you and tastes alot better. I enjoy getting up and setting my blind up before dawn and waiting for that big buck to walk into my crosshairs. I enjoy seeing my breath in my scope right before I pull the trigger and I enjoy seeing that round hit that buck in the sweet spot. I enjoy seeing the buck drop right where it stands. I enjoy brining home meat to my family that will feed us for a few months without having to spend 600 dollars a month. I enjoy strapping the buck upside down from a branch while a buddy and I dress it down. I enjoy drinking a cold beer afterwards while a nice filet is grilling on the BBQ.

Most of all I enjoy the thrill of the moment.

So for you to ask me if I drink the blood of my "victims" with my son is an insult that is not appreciated. Espeacially from someone who has also enjoyed the thrill of the hunt.

You want to talk about defenseless creatures I suggest you watch slaughter house videos and then tell me if a deer in the woods is less defensive then what you bring home from the supermarket.

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Perfectly! I see that too so bad.
Especially at work. Another reason I dont hold out much hope.
Not to change the thread but its like environmental damage.
We deny and deny untill it knocks our doors down.
It is that arragance of always HAVING to be right at all cost.
Thanks gobs.(Im not alone)

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