Can the internet evolve into a lifeform?, page 1
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Topic started on 11-6-2009 @ 11:38 AM by raptorinvictus

Some think that sentience could emerge from any sufficiently complicated system. By the way, you're reading this on a massively-crosslinked network built from millions of routers, allowing any of a billion individual units to access, modify and reply to the others. Interested?

here is the link
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I read this article somewhere and it sounded really cool.

Think about it. The internet is MASSIVE and is an extremely complex system made up of millions of computers.
What are the chances of a 'Ghost in the shell' kind of event happening for real?

For example if you are the only person using your personal computer chances are you have certain habits and gestures that get recorded and make your computer
respond to you in the way you like. Defragging files to suit the way they are accessed.
If you sit on a friend's computer or a public computer, chances are it will feel sluggish or different because it is not used to the way you react and neither are you used to the way it reacts.
If you agree with that, think of the size f the internet. The sheer amount of data flow is bound to leave some form of imprint.
Who knows? a system as advanced as this just might 'evolve'


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:00 PM by Lunatyx



reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:09 PM by raptorinvictus
reply to post by HiranMaya



The thing is self learning nd evolving algorithms do exist.
Viruses can evolve and change their code.
Neural networks are used all over the place.
The real question is if the internet is 'alive' does it have a soul?
do we have to treat it with the same respect as other life forms?
How intelligent is it?
ans is it aware of us?


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:17 PM by raptorinvictus
reply to post by warrenb





Which lead me to wonder, could an AI store itself in this manner?


I think so. Remember all web pages you view are downloaded to your pc.
A larger program in theory can store data on users hard drive and access it later.
Just like skynet, the program could be the entire internet.
Although i dont have a lot of info on protocols so i do not know how this would work.
Can anyone tell me if this is possible?


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:36 PM by raptorinvictus
reply to post by Jigore



Actually that would be something to worry about.



reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:41 PM by jackflap
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Does anyone remember that little bit in Revelation about the image that was created for the beast? That the image was given the ability to speak and that everyone was forced to worship it or die? That is what I believe will come online soon. A supercomputer with the ability to watch every move we make so we can work toward its goal. Check this out.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:45 PM by raptorinvictus
reply to post by MR BOB



Does all life have to be 'organic'?
how do you define organic?
If you mean carbon based i believe there are speculations of silicon based micro organisms as well.


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:48 PM by raptorinvictus
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I think the internet does watch over a lot of your moves already.
Everytime you check your mail 9Gmail) you see ads in the sidebar on similar topics as your mail.
You plot your course on a gps downloading maps from the net.
Some people also put up their day to day lives on blogs.
Think about it.


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 01:22 PM by raptorinvictus
reply to post by shinjiikari2839



The human brain is just a seemingly random collection of neurons and nerve fibers just like the internet.
Think about this. We are a collection of millions of cells( all of which can be loosely defined as individual life forms).

It it then impossible for the same thing to occur on a much larger scale?


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reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 02:13 PM by raptorinvictus
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Ants individually are not that intelligent, but the colony as a whole exhibits a greater intelligence (basically a super-organism).


Can all complex organism be described as some form of super organisms?
Like i said before we re all collections of cells as well.

Similarly it might be possible for the internet to form some form of intelligence.

It might not be life as we know it but could be a life form nonetheless.
I think we will soon reach a point where this would be very hard to ignore.

Who knows? True A.I. might not be created by us but it my evolve on its own in an environment we created.


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 02:19 PM by TurkeyBurgers
I DO think that it could be POSSIBLE. ANYTHING is possible.

I have done a lot of research into ways to improve my memory so I could do Math better than the very basic simple 10th grade math that I struggled through in High School.

What I have learned in my exploration about memory and specifically HUMAN memory and how we process information is REMARKABLE!

How it has been said that the human mind works is that when you go to say, Ride a Bike your thoughts are along the lines of possibly THOUSANDS of different thoughts all coming together at once. There is one section of your brain that stores information on bike safety, another section that stores information on weight shifting, another section of the brain that stores information on what your bike looks like, another on how it operates mechanically, another section that has information on wind resistance against different types of clothing that you have worn when riding a bike etc. etc.

All of this different information is compartmentalized, kind of like a web page. When you go to ride the bike somehow it all gets "pinged" and accessed and sent to a central processor that sorts it and compiles it all in such a rapid speed as to be unnoticeable!

What is creepy is when you consider the thought of yourself.

You, yourself as a thought are composed of thousands of different thoughts of yourself. What your appearance is, what your Body Odor is like, your preferred clothing dress style, your food tastes, your possessions, your preferences in politics, relationships. All of these thoughts of yourself are again compartmentalized and when you THINK of yourself you are accessing thousands of different thoughts of yourself instantly and putting them together into one single coherent thought.

There are estimates anywhere from 10-100 BILLION Neurons all connected together in a miniature brain interwebs.

Maybe if we had 100 billion computers all connected together with a central computer processing all of the web pages together with the right set of programming on the super computer we could mimic Human Intelligence.


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 02:34 PM by Nickmare
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I do think any animal can be thought of as a 'super-organism'. Every person is basically just a collection of smaller organisms working together. Our thoughts themselves come about from other organisms.

Like you say, maybe it will form on its own. Makes you wonder how it would start off considering some of the most common things you find on the net...

If for instance a bunch of spam programs begin working together to form a super organism to intelligently spam us, that would suck. But if a search engine is formed that can follow web links to find us the information we are after, intelligently, that would be nice.
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