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Topic started on 11-6-2009 @ 11:00 AM by joe82
June 10) - Israeli TV newscasters Tuesday night interpreted a photo taken Monday in the Oval Office of President Obama talking on the phone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as an "insult" to Israel.
They saw the incident as somewhat akin to an incident last year, when the Iraqi reporter threw a shoe at President Bush in Baghdad.
It is considered an insult in the Arab world to show the sole of your shoe to someone. It is not a Jewish custom necessarily, but Israel feels enough a part of the Middle East after 60 years to be insulted too.
Was there a subliminal message intended from the White House to Netanyahu in Jerusalem, who is publicly resisting attempts by Mr. Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to force Israel to stop any kind of settlement activity in occupied territories once and forever?
Whether or not it is true, it shows the mood in Israel. They feel cornered. The reactions out of Israel reflect that feeling.
Netanyahu is making a speech Sunday, in part as a response to Mr. Obama's address to the Arab world last week in Cairo.
Israel's Channel One TV reported that Netanyahu was told Tuesday by an "American official" in Jerusalem that, "We are going to change the world. Please, don't interfere." The report said Netanyahu's aides interpreted this as a "threat."
Netanyahu met with George Mitchell today for four hours in Jerusalem. The State Department announced this afternoon that Mitchell will be stopping in Beirut and Damascus when he finishes his visits to Israel and the Palestinian Authority


I truly beleive that obama will turn against israel, his agenda for the world is not in our best interest.
whats your take on this story. it can be found at at aol news.


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 11:08 AM by IKnowNothing
Story Link

I included the link for you. As for the picture, I'm not really sure what to think. He might have known about the implications, or he might not have known. All depends on how he was raised. What is interesting is that this picture was released to the public, rather than one that, let's say, has his feet on the ground while on the phone.

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reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:08 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by getreadyalready



What, how is that arrogant and a lack of respect? The man is talking to somebody else who is thousands of miles away. Obama has the right to put his feet wherever he wants.

So do I, and so do you.

The media is really just trying to land blows at anybody over this issue, or any issue for that matter.

This isn't even news, it's fluf.

Always more of the same.

~Keeper


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:15 PM by Manouche
Haaretz is not running this story.
JPost is not running this story.
I couldn't find it on their website.

But CBS News is. No wonder who is the targetted audience.
"Some Israelis" and "Israeli TV newscasters" that we will never be able to appraise the credibility, influence and opinion relevance because there are no names and no context.

From this very poor detailed narrative of the events and no surrounding discourse, the author is not afraid to say "it shows the mood in Israel".

All the clues of blatant manipulation and extrapolation here, happily adding fuel to the flames.
Questionable analogy between a photograph of a man putting his feet on his desk and the highly political throw of a shoe. Common point : a shoe. Differences : all the rest.
Laughable comment and justification : "It is not a Jewish custom necessarily, but Israel feels enough a part of the Middle East after 60 years to be insulted too."
Biased undercurrent of the use of freaking psychic technics : "subliminal message" and "Whether or not is it true...". That being candid humor is irrelevant, what is important is the general impress it will leave to the reader.
Inconclusive analysis of the facts : "Whether or not it is true, it shows the mood in Israel. They feel cornered. The reactions out of Israel reflect that feeling."

In the second part, you can read the "real" news. Names, places, sources, context.

The first part of this article is a miserable attempt at public opinion's manipulation.
All of this is an incredible mise-en-scene around a simple photo. Don't be fooled. I am not even sure Obama was really on the phone with Netanyahu at the moment the photo was taken. Anyway, it is of no importance.





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reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:27 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by tothetenthpower



Having been through a great many management courses, negotiation courses, body language analysis, etc., trust that his posture came through in his voice.

Haven't you heard the adage, "Smile before you answer the phone." It translates in your voice.

If you wouldn't do it in their presence, don't do it over the phone. Also, he was not alone in his office, there was a photographer, so this was a staged photo op, those guys don't just drop by the Oval Office!

Staged Photo Op = Intentional, also identifying who he was on the phone with in the article is again...Intentional.

These guys are negotiating the fate of the world on a daily basis, their knowledge is light years ahead of mine, so they are clearly sending an Intentional Message!



reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:40 PM by SLAYER69
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I know...

I think Israel should focus on and get really insulted when and if Obama stops taking Israeli calls altogether.


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 12:50 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by jd140



If they are truly offended, then throw them an apology and move on.


Whilst I agree this is just another tempest in a teapot, I just don't see how it warrants any sort of apology.

Say, for instance, there's that infamous "3 AM Phone Call" some day? Obviously, there won't be a photog....but is someone going to make an equally inane claim that the Prez 'insulted' someone (whomever) by answering the call in his pajamas (or whatever he sleeps in)???

Do the Israelis have video-phones now? What a 'bleeping' waste of time!

Now, watch this drive!


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