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2 Japanese Carrying $134 Bil Worth Of U.S. Bonds Detained in Italy

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posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 01:02 AM
reply to post by Counttrarian

Very interesting ideed! Good information and thanks for posting! Guess we are waiting on word of these being real or fake...

One thing that strikes me as very out of the ordinary about this story is the men are being detained. That is all...not arrested but detained.

The "age" (or supposed) if they are fake...of these instruments is curious also. As you posted, many times these activites are political in nature.
Ways to fight wars without firing guns and launching rockets!

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 01:15 AM
OR...They were meant to get caught to give the U.S. a 134 billion dollar windfall.

The bonds are now in Italian custody. I wonder what will happen to them if the bearers can't prove they have come by them legally? I'm guessing they will be sent back to Washington. The Italians won't keep the 40%, their relations with the U.S. are far to important for them.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 01:39 AM
I've no doubt that if MSM dont drop this, we'll be told they're fake. Doesn't mean anything. As others have said tho, I cant believe they couldn't bribe their way across any border on earth with that kind of money. So who gains by they're being caught? The Italians? Any politician who tried to sign off on that would wake up with something worse than a horsehead in their bed. Got to be the US. Doesn't mean the whole thing is US backed tho. CIA could have just made the guards do their jobs. Whose money? Anyone holding that amount has an interest in unloading it quietly. The $US is going down. Dont look for foreign conspirators for why. Helicopter Ben Bernanke is your man.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 01:53 AM
I'm under the impression that these types of bonds may be the currency used by the world's elite, Puppet Master Money. While the slaves run around and trade play money that has no value behind it. The PTB use a monetary system backed by slave output potential.

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posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:12 AM
I'm certain that any bond of such enormous amounts, like a billion, would have documentation of date of issue and the person or business that acquired them.

These aren't like $100 bills.

My first suspicion is counterfeit. Hard to believe people would sloppily attempt to smuggle an astronomical sum if it really had that value. You could buy one of a dozen countries in the UN with it and just send it by a diplomatic pouch.

And then there's the question who would buy something for a billion without validation in advance.

Would be interesting if this turns out to be a tip of the iceberg thing. Like the billions that the US has made in the drug controlling business all these years. But I tend to doubt that scenario.

But maybe some whole country's regime deciding to cash out and make a dash. That's more likely if they turn out to be real.

This should turn out to be one of the biggest stories of the decade.


posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:58 AM
Well Im sorta new to govt conspiracies of sorts. I've always paid attention to what I thought was BS and kept it in the back of my mind and what not. I feel that with the 2 gentleman caught with the billions in bonds is as follows...

1. thats a lot of cake for the US not to notice moving across borders.

2. Obama is questionable at best with the current economy situation and by questionable i guess i mean his real intent. After all the only "change" we have seen is where he stood/stands on issues pre election and post election. With that said maybe this is some tactic devised by the WH or the fed or something like that, to insure certain desired effects.

3. If i was smuggling that much cake I would have a small army there to ensure I reached my destination with said cake. I understand clandestine covertness. At the same time its possible that someone out there could of caught wind of this and sent in someone to take the bonds from the 2 aging Asian gents.

just seems to carefree to be jet setting around Europe with billions in bonds to not have some kind of counter measure in case the SHTF.

This is my first post on ur site so they will get a bit better but thats all i have for now. Thanks for reading.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 04:20 AM
very intresting indeed imo,with the way the financial belt has took a whack recently,this paper trail could be the hands of many up too no good.
i`m thinking somebody wants their dirty work done,i may be way off but i think these bonds are for bad boys,so it`s who you leave out as the list is that big lol.

i think like others this will be chip wrapper news in the next weeks,but will these bonds go back to the states?,i imagine these belong to somebody and would have a trail to be bought/sold or used as debt,how do these bonds work as currency etc?.

damn this website is white hot,love scanning it and thought i may come on board after a month or so just reading,hi all.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 06:00 AM
Um, um, um..

Maybe the Yakuza and/or the Triads asian criminal alliance was trying to pay the Mafia Neo-La-Costra-Nostra sicillian and italian organized crime types and two of their couriers were caught transporting the $134 billion?

Maybe it was to purchase... a suitcase nuke.. to hold New York City hostage for 1,000 BILLION DOLLARS!! Muahahahaha!!! *holds up metal claw for hand as he laughs maniacally*

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 06:33 AM

Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by Trunkeight

Excuse me, I already posted this precise information @ 2:28pm.

Why have you reposted this as your own??

Interesting set of ethics here...

You are mistaken...

your post different thread...2.28p.m.......

This thread...This story was posted first on this thread at 2.46 A.M.

I stand corrected. Indeed this appears to be the case

Excuse me, I do apologise.


[edit on 12-6-2009 by Trunkeight]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 06:37 AM

Originally posted by Dorfl
OR...They were meant to get caught to give the U.S. a 134 billion dollar windfall.

The bonds are now in Italian custody. I wonder what will happen to them if the bearers can't prove they have come by them legally? I'm guessing they will be sent back to Washington. The Italians won't keep the 40%, their relations with the U.S. are far to important for them.

IF the dollar is about to tank i bet a lot of countries, companies and individuals would want to trade in their US bond holdings for something else than US dollars asap. The dollar has lost its triple A rating, the risk is higher, so all in all it makes sense to unload some US t-bills just like russia, brazil and china have done. The IMF is ready and waiting

What's got the Chinese so spooked? Chinese concerns about the U.S. economy have been growing lately, especially as the U.S. dollar declines against other world currencies. So far this year, the greenback is down more than 10 percent against other currencies. The Chinese are believed to keep about 70 percent of their $2 trillion foreign assets in dollars, so they are taking quite a hit.

The world's most important bond salesman told a Peking University audience Monday that "in the United States, we are putting in place the foundations for restoring fiscal sustainability." News reports said the audience tittered at that one, and no wonder. The Chinese are well aware of the great American fiscal and monetary blowout, with the 2009 federal budget deficit set to reach 13% of GDP, if the U.S. catches a break or two.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 08:09 AM
LOL. Can you imagine the look on the face of the defendants when the customs lady said "excuse me sir, I think you dropped a thousand dollars..."

[edit on 12/6/2009 by Dark Ghost]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 08:47 AM
reply to post by burntheships

is this related? found on youtube
was posted to youtube June 4 2009

which is the same date of the Italian report here

this story is so huge

WHY is no western media covering it?


with the following details:
1. The original story link
2. All subsequent links

Possibly related:

On my end, I've email a few dozen media outlets but I "doubt" we will see any reaction.

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[edit on 12-6-2009 by warrenb]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 09:31 AM
OK it worked!

Drudgereport is now carrying the story!

and Bloomberg!!@!!!


posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 09:36 AM
Don't we as a country have pretty accurate records of such Treasury notes and who purchased them? I would imagine that in those amount's we would have systems in place to know who we sold them to and prove their status. If you can counterfeit that kind of thing convincingly then we are in a heap of trouble.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 09:46 AM
reply to post by Trunkeight



reply to post by warrenb

Good work! How long can msm ignore this...
Awesome to see it on Drudge!

Searched this a.m. for an update to the story...none yet.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by burntheships]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 09:53 AM

Japan says trust in Treasuries unshakable

TOKYO, June 12 (Reuters) - Japan has complete trust in Treasuries and U.S. support for a strong dollar, Japanese Finance Minister Kaoru Yosano was quoted as saying in a Bloomberg interview.

"We have complete trust in the fact that the U.S. views its strong dollar policy as fundamental," Yosano, also economics minister, said in an interview with Bloomberg that was conducted on June 10 and published on Friday.

"Our trust in Treasuries is absolutely unshakable."

The dollar's position as the world's reserve currency is not under threat and Japan has no intention of asking the U.S. government to sell yen-denominated debt, Yosano was also quoted as saying.

and the following article

Japan minister resigns in fresh blow to PM Aso

TOKYO, June 12 (Reuters) - Japan's internal affairs minister is to resign after a row with Prime Minister Taro Aso over a personnel issue, in a blow to Aso ahead of a looming election, Kyodo news agency said on Friday.

Internal Affairs Minister Kunio Hatoyama had insisted that Yoshifumi Nishikawa, president of Japan Post [JP.UL], should be replaced. Aso had insisted Nishikawa remain in his position.

Hatoyama had insisted that Nishikawa be replaced because of Japan Post's attempt to sell its nationwide resort complex to leasing company Orix Corp (8591.T). The chairman of Orix had helped craft a government plan to privatise the postal system.

resigning over a personnel issue????!!

WTH is going on folks?!!

Yet, this story is not just about Italy potentially hitting the jackpot. It is also about the United States, and the fact that sovereign governments may be trying to dump US treasuries on the black market for fear that they soon will be worth very little.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by warrenb]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 10:05 AM
reply to post by warrenb

Ha Ha Ha

The Tail wagging the dog.
Good for you.

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 10:09 AM
reply to post by SLAYER69


Rawstory just post it as well...

Japan probes report of 2 seized in Italy
Claim says men detained attempted to take $134b in US bonds over the border.

Spiegel Online

Italian customs officials stopped two men at the Swiss border carrying bonds worth $134 billion (95.8 billion euros). Italian customs officers on the Swiss ...

Japanese TV Discovers The Case Of The $134.5 Billion In Seized Bonds

just keeps getting better, weekend lookign great now

Can't wait to get to the bottom of this and the reason for the bonds...

[edit on 12-6-2009 by warrenb]

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 10:27 AM
Unusual rise in USD/JPY currency markets?


and tie that in with the Minister resigning....

double hmmm

posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 10:53 AM
Perhaps a bit far fetched but could it be Japan paying the US for the nuclear umbrella protection equipment ? What else could it be, protection, another country is blackmailing Japan ?

Fake Bonds? If there is a coverup it will most probably be that the bonds are fake, its more easy that way, no questions asked.

June 12 (Bloomberg) -- Italy’s financial police said they asked the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission to authenticate U.S. government bonds

[edit on 2009/6/12 by reugen]

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