2 Japanese Carrying $134 Bil Worth Of U.S. Bonds Detained in Italy, page 2
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reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 11:18 AM by burntheships
Here is an update on the story...and an engllish translation of the article
USA securities for 96 billion euros.

249 bonds of the Federal Reserve of the United States, each with nominal value of 500 million dollars, as well as 10 Kennedy bonds each of 1 billion dollars in value, hidden in the double bootom of a suit case, for a total of a good 134 billion dollars, equal to more than 96 billion euros.

This is how much was sequestered [don't know legal implication of this term] at the internation railway station in Chiasso, at the Swiss-Italian border, functionaries of the Territorial Operational Section of Chiasso, in collaboration with soldiers/members of the Financial Police [Guardia di Finanzia] of Ponte Chiasso, during the checking of bags aimed at stopping the illegal trafficing of capital.

The amount was in the possession of to fifty year old Japanese men who had arrived at the Chiasso railway station on a train coming from Italy and who, when checked by customs, had stated that they had nothing to declare.

Instead an accurate check of the bags facilitated the discovery of the American securities, hidden in the bottom of the suitcase, in a closed section separated from the part of the bag containing personal items.

Apart from the securities the Japanese men were carrying a considerable sum of original bank documents.

Investigations are underway to establish the identity and the origin of both the bonds and the bank documents that have also been impounded. If the securities are authentic, based on regulations in place, the penalty applicable to the possessors [of the bonds] could reach 38 billion euros, equivalent to 40% of the sum in excess of the acceptable baggage allowance of 10 thousand euro.

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reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 11:27 AM by SLAYER69
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Too bad the guards don't work on commission that would have made their day

Even at 1% commission that would have been a cool 1.34 billion.




reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 11:36 AM by burntheships
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No doubt...
But what to make of this...smacks of some underground plot to ruin the dollar! The contraband includes 249 US Federal Reserve bonds worth US
$ 500 million each, plus ten Kennedy bonds and other US government securities worth a billion dollar each! This is huge!

http://www.adnkronos.com/IGN/News/Cronaca/?id=3.0.3396869573

I think there is a news blackout on this story...why is this not being covered by the MSM?
? This is too big for them to be acting alone...seriously...if they are fake huge scam operation and still if entered into the market could do serious damage...if they are real it is an international plot!


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 11:40 AM by SLAYER69
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It's the oldest game in the book!
Who has the most to gain by devaluing the dollar?



reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 02:28 PM by blackcube
My from rubish italian understanding its is billion.

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Other sources confirm my "translation"... its Billion
cryptogon.com...

PS: dictionary.reverso.net...
italian -> english
miliardi = billion
milioni = million


[edit on 11/6/09 by blackcube]


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 03:30 PM by SLAYER69
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I still say they are Chinese agents. If not then they are Japanese working for China I say China is in there someplace.
The Japanese consulate general in Milan confirmed that the detention had taken place and said it was trying to confirm with Italian authorities whether the two were indeed Japanese nationals and their identities.



reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 05:37 PM by jefwane
This is probably one of the more interesting news items I've come across lately. I heard about it two or three days ago.

My first thought is that it is a bond counterfeiting operation. That seems most likely in my mind. Whoever had these could have been using them as collateral for some type of major deal. The value of the bonds is truly staggering and if not counterfeit, only a government would have this kind of money, and bearer bonds might as well be money.

If not counterfeit, only a state actor would have this kind of money. The three that come immediately to mind are Japan, China, and Saudi Arabia. Due to the ethnicity of the people found with them I think we can rule out KSA. Why either China or Japan would smuggle through "normal" routes rather than through diplomatic mail is my main question on that route of thought. The only possibility I can think of why either of those state actors would use old fashioned smuggling rather than diplomatically protected mail, is perhaps whoever it is (if the bonds are real) fears that their diplomatic services are compromised.

Another possible state actor culprit is North Korea. They have long been known to be into counterfeiting, and also for their agents to travel using fake but very good Japanese credential.

If the bonds are real I really don't see the Triads, Tongs, or Yakuza ( going of the Asian ethnicity of those caught) or the mafia (it was in Italy) even if they had that kind of dough risking it all in a single border crossing.

I don't know what's going on with it. The parsimonious answer is that they are fake, and it's just a HUGE counterfeiting operation, but with everything going on in the world economy I just don't know. Maybe Japan or China is quietly trying to slip out of T's in a way that no one would notice they were selling.

I hope some media organization with some financial acuity picks up this story and does some digging.
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