I like California. Beautiful place, go there all the time. But really, did they think they could get away with spending so much for so long without actually brining in any revenue? I was in Sacramento a few months ago and it was like a ghost town. Construction just seemed to have started, then stopped all over the place. They must have known this was coming for more than just the last few months. My suggestion, get rid of the orange border. How much does that cost to ask everyone who comes in and out if they have fruits and vegetables in their car? To many silly programs... Not enough taxpayers.

I am a Republican and I think Arnold sucks!Why don't they cut stupid b.s.spending and still keep critical infrastructure in place?The people of California pay alot of taxes but this moron can do nothing to save there state but demand more money and more out of control spending.

Shut the Government down! Then maybe the lazy turds living off welfare will be forced to go work. Maybe some poeple who rely on the Government will learn how to rely on themselves and be a part of the community to help each other out. Would be a hard lesson but a good one. What else is needed from the state really other than the police and fire departments? Even most of those are handled at the municipal level. The state provides very little services other than welfare type services. Which they need to get rid of anyway. Everything else can be handled by the municipalities.

Seriously though, does anyone doubt that the Federal Government will bail em out?

It's all a game right now... to make it look like a 'tough decision.'

90 percent sure D.C. bails out Sacramento. If it doesn't happen then good.

I think it would be a good thing if things do shut down for awhile. Maybe people will wake up and try to fix the system.

I am not too worried about anything. Most of my neighbors fly American and POW/MIA flags. We will look out for each other.

I think that if more of the state politicians took a paycut, I would feel a little better about their ineptness.

If you are around Sacramento and things get too bad, contact me. I will point you to safety.

[edit on 11-6-2009 by tamusan]

Let us not forget the words he once spoke...

1. I'll be back ! he got re-elected.

2. Asta la Vista, baby... that means no more handouts and goodies.


They call him the Terminator, so if he shust down the gevernment, well... no loss. All the illegals will go home, and possibly people there will take on some jobs to pay for all the things they now get for free. Good.

He is right -
listen,....

wow ......i never realized just HOW LARGE CALI's economy is....

all by themselves they are the 8 largest economy in the world! SH*T

they make up about 13% of the USA'S GDP

but someone should till those people in cali to watch the stock market it's up= everythng is green shoots lol

is arnie negotiating for a lower intrest rate on that state loan or is he not just calling someone's bluff

From Wiki:

The economy of Texas is one of the largest growing economies in the United States. In 2006, Texas was home to six of the top 50 companies on the Fortune 500 list and 56 overall, more than any other state. [1] Texas has an economy that was the second largest in the nation and the 15th largest in the world based on GDP (nominal) figures. As the largest exporter of goods in the United States, Texas currently grosses more than $100 billion a year in trade with other nations.

In 2008, Texas had a gross state product of $1.245 trillion,[2] the second highest in the U.S.[3] The Gross state product per capita as of 2005 was $42,975.

Texas had the second largest workforce in the United States,[4] with almost 11 million civilian workers. The lack of personal income tax as well as the largely undervalued real estate throughout Texas has led to large growth in population. Since the 2003 legislature the Governor's office has made economic development a top priority.

Much economic activity in Texas is regional. For example, the timber industry is important in East Texas's economy but a non-factor elsewhere. Houston, the state's largest urban economic enclave stands at the center of the petrochemical, biomedical research trades, shipping, and aerospace (particularly NASA). Dallas/Fort Worth houses the state's predominant defense manufacturing interests and the expansive information technology labor market. West Texas and the panhandle is dominated by ranching and the petroleum industry.


Texas's growth can be attributed to the availability of jobs, the low cost of housing, the lack of a personal state income tax, the quality of higher education, low taxation and limited regulation of business, a central geographic location, a limited government, favorable weather, and plentiful supplies of oil and natural gas. There are currently 35 billionaires residing in Texas today. Dallas has 27 billionaires, the most of any city in Texas.

Texas has the highest number of Fortune 500 company headquarters in the United States, fifty-eight.[5] This has been attributed to both the growth in population in Texas and the rise of oil prices in 2005. Houston has the second highest number of Fortune 500 companies in the US, second to New York.

The USA can stand to let CA sink. If TX goes, the USA is in trouble.

My road map to getting California back on its feet:

1. Cut everyone who hasn't paid into the system off the tax payer's teat. This does not mean cutting unemployment relief, medicare, medicaid, social security, or even food assistance from people PROVIDED THAT the recipients have a history of having worked and paid their taxes into the system. Anyone who has gone straight from high school onto the government dole, straight across the border from TJ and onto the government dole, or has spent the past 10 years with their feet propped up and their hand out for that money should be cut off immediately.

2. Recognize that the time has now come for a return to the traditional school format. This means teachers actually will have to start teaching, some school subjects like math and the sciences will continue to use textbooks which were written some years ago (which are filled with the same quality of educational information as books still sporting wet ink off the presses... it baffles me how anyone can consider a 10 year old algebra text to be "outdated" when the basic principles of mathematics at the k-12 schooling level DO NOT CHANGE). This also means that we go back to the 80's and prior when a cheese sandwhich, fresh apple, and a small carton of milk were the standard lunch, not some sort of "punishment" given in lieu of the fancier state sponsored lunch to kids who's parents have failed to pay their kid's lunch bill.

3. Stop basing ridiculous and costly environmental laws on pseudo science and half assed wild assumptions made by political agenda driven "scientists." California could easily bridge their budget gap if they'd simply abandon their ultra leftist enviornmental policy agendas. I'm not suggesting they should completely eradicate environmental laws altogether, but for the love of God why would any normal thinking individual support completely neutering and handcuffing your industries with the shackles of the nation's strictest environmental policies? Free your industries from the prisons Al Gore Disease and the money (and jobs) will quickly follow!

4. Pass a tax break/increase on Hollywood and the entertainment industry based on a "Buy California" law. This means all entertainment, from movies to TV to music to the porn industry. First, tax the entertainment industry at the rate you tax the rest of your industries at (or, better yet, lower the industry rates down to be in line with the powder puff taxation of Hollywood). Then tell the whole lot of them that they can recieve tax breaks if they keep their business in the state of California. This would effectively break the entertainment unions, but it would also ensure that the money made from major films and other forms of electronic entertainment stayed in the state of California. That means alot of money entering the state from around the world... as it does now, but instead of this money "just passing through" it would actually stay there for awhile and boost not only the state economy, but also the overall state tax intake, as more Californians got their hands on it.

5. Pass a government "stalemate" law that effectively prevents the continuous deadlocking of their government that happens annually between the legislature and governor's office. This is the one step in this process which I'm really not sure about just how they could go about doing. Obviously they need something which forces all of the representatives to actually work together and compromise with each other in a timely fashion. If anyone has any ideas on how to do this, I'm all ears.

This might be a stupid question but why can't they be like Florida with no state tax?

Today, I noticed something that seemed a little strange to me. I do not live in the U.S. all year anymore, so maybe this has become the norm without me noticing it.

Let me try to explain and maybe others can let me know if they are seeing something like this in their areas.

I woke up this morning and noticed at least a dozen emergency vehicles riding by with lights/sirens and I payed no attention. About an hour later, I drove my wife somewhere and about a dozen emergency vehicles went by again. As I was returning to my house, it happened again. About an hour later, I was walking to the store and there they were again a couple more times. I went a little later and picked my wife up and again there were emergency vehicles. When I returned to my neighborhood, we stopped at a nearby diner and had an early dinner. While we were there, the emergency vehicles made a pass 3 more times.

To me it seems that they were driving around in a large loop. I live on the river, in an area called the Pocket. Basically you could make a "D" shape with Pocket Rd. and Florin Rd. The "D" would cover about 10 miles if one stayed to these 2 roads. The emergency vehicles were riding around this "D" at their normal emergency speed with lights/sirens going.

So, what's up? During a time that California is very low on cash, why so much waste of resources? I do not think it is normal. I have never seen anything like this.

Makes me wonder if they are preparing for something.