Originally posted by Leveller
Study history as somebody has suggested that I should do (something I might add that I have done in abundance).
Just because something is done often DOESN’T mean it’s accurate—I just told anyone out there to go study—not just you. THAT INCLUDES ME, because
there are some things I will not understand. Self-study leads to isolated linear thinking. As Iron sharpens Iron buddy…
The Jewish god was created for the Tribes of Israel.
The Islamic god was created for the Tribes of Arabia.
The Christian god was created for those who belonged to neither tribe.
Worship of these gods is set in a specific way for their followers. If you don't follow the proscribed way of worshipping you aren't
worshipping their god.
Then please TELL ME WHY BAPTISTS AND CATHOLICS DON’T WOSHIP THE SAME? They don’t; I’ve been to both…and how FAR is that arbitrary point of change
supposed to occur. Let’s break it down into one sect of christianity: church of Christ. If you ever go to a church of Christ (not latter day
saints—the ones that believe in A Capella singing), you see that there are two different views in the faith—that everything is an act of worship, and
that there are only 5 acts of worship. ALSO, one side believes that the “gospel” is the good news from the battlefield, ie. Christ was born, died,
and was resurrected for our sins (the battle’s already won), while the other believe that it is the entirety of the scriptures (this is a problem when
you cannot add or subtract words from the Gospel). There are so many problems betwixt the two that they will say that everyone else is in error and
they need to get back to the tenants of the BIBLE, but NEITHER WILL OFTEN (without damned good reason) SAY THE OTHER IS NOT HIS BROTHER and that they
worship a different God! I’ve been called sister by those who believe that baptism means nothing, and have often had reason to call them my brothers
and sisters, though I do believe that it is essential. By your argument NO ONE HAS THE SAME GOD!
How many times does it have to be stated in the BIBLE, TO THE JEWS FIRST, AND ALSO TO THE GREEK? Messianic Jews believe that Jesus was the Messiah and
that they missed the boat. And from this following web page, the Muslims certainly as hell started off believing that we worshiped the same GOD.
by something with a PhD.
Ask any Imam, Rabbi or Pope if the opposing sects worship the one true God. They'll all sneer down at their noses and say no. Pah. To those of
you who follow a religion you will state that your opposition might be created by one god but you'll always state that they aren't worshipping him
properly. God has become a concept of man. An image of man. You put words in His mouth and attribute false emotions of jealousy and anger to
I don’t need to put ANGER into God’s mouth; the scriptures do it enough on their own. Which is worse, to war over semantics or to war over a god? I
honestly don’t know the answers to that one, but what I do know, is that if there is logical reasoning going on, it is easier to start with the
precept of a same God and to say any less would weaken many of the conversions back and for the betwixt the two.
From this site:
The same God who made the hands of a Jew, made the feet of a Christian, and the eyes of a Muslim... we are all "brothers", made by the same
Father, children of the same God... and it should be a good reason to love each other, instead of fighting against each other, as shamefully has often
happened in history.
back to you
As for two Christian sects fighting? Why not admit that all Christian sects fight. You claim that this doesn't mean that they have different
gods yet you refuse to acknowledge that what they are fighting over is the interpretation of God. Religious interpretation is everything in
this world. It is your god.
Historical connections mean nothing.
If this is true, what the HELL is it you’re basing ANYHTING YOU SAID HERE ON? JUST OPINION? If so, you have no right to tell me whom I believe in.
I believe in the God of Abraham and Isaac.
Ga 3:8 The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "ALL THE NATIONS
WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU."
All three trace their religion back to Abraham, who was NONE OF THEM—he was the father of nations, a patriarch. They weren’t called Israel until
JACOB, his grandson through only one child.
BTW, Abraham existed; his name is found on walls and tablets throughout the earlier Babylonian/ Sumerian (can’t remember which) empire.
1 Corinthians 10:26-33 FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S, AND ALL IT CONTAINS.
If one of the unbelievers invites you and you want to go, eat anything that is set before you without asking questions for conscience' sake. But if
anyone says to you, "This is meat sacrificed to idols," do not eat it, for the sake of the one who informed you, and for conscience' sake; I mean
not your own conscience, but the other man's; for why is my freedom judged by another's conscience? If I partake with thankfulness, why am I
slandered concerning that for which I give thanks? Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense
either to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit but the profit of the many,
so that they may be saved.
Why the HELL does it matter if I play to my brother’s conscious when it is in conflict with his? If I’m not of the same belief/practice as him
–therefore-we-don’t-believe-in-the-same-god, then why do I have to worry about this scripture? When it comes to my faith, I try not to let it matter
when we have differences in belief—though I have to live by what I believe. Paul and Barnabas couldn’t work together-they argued too much, so they
split, and still called each other brother.
I'm well aware of the pagan elements, the history, the politics, the abuse of power and the control that religion has forced upon people. It
doesn't mean that the gods are the same. Religion is all interpretation. God is all interpretation through those religions. When
the interpretation differs so drastically as it does with the major religions it is plain to see that the gods of Islam, Judaism and
Christianity are not the one God to anyone other than their own followers.
And just because you believe that they are not the same gods doesn’t mean that you are right—you haven’t given me any proof. Many of any of those
faiths believe that they worship the same God—many of them having studied their scriptures for their faith.
By the way. Islam rejects the Trinity as blasphemous. Is this really the same god then?
Oh, that’s what the war between the Byzantium (Eastern Orthodox) and Western Orthodox (Catholic church) was fighting that war I mentioned earlier.
They were fighting over whether or not the Trinity is three separate Gods, or if it was one. Both sides saw the other as blasphemous, and went to
war. Now, they are both still considered Christian sects, and some other sects accept both.
I worte it and it gives me a headache!