A mysterious off-white colored ball suddenly appears after a hand gun is shot.

The ball comes from inside the barrel of the pistol.

What is this mysterious ball, and why does it disappear so quickly?

Is the ball some form of liquid from rapid condensation?

Or, is there more than meets the eye?

The ball is fairly good sized, at least it is large enough to see, but what is it?

Does anybody care to venture what the ball is?

Could it be a gun cleaning oil and condensation mixture that quickly evaporates from the heat of the explosion of the bullet coming from the front of the pistol?

Why didn't it fly out the end of the pistol when the powder and lead bullet flew out of the end of the pistol?


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[edit on 11-6-2009 by RussianScientists]

I'd imagine it's hot gun powder left from the initial shot. but don't quote me on that because I know nothing about guns haha

i guess it is the residual gunpowder that is on fire and pushed out from the barrell by the combustion.

When tha hammer hits the primer of the bullet casing and the primer ignites, exploding the propellant which is gunpowder. When it burns a large volume of gas is released, which propells the bullet which is resting in the casing forward.

Some residual gunpowder in the casing which is already lit, is pushed forward by the high pressure, fast moving volume of gas, otwards through the barrell and once exiting the barrell, burn faster and vanishes.

That is what we seee as the white ball.

What kind of person thinks it's anything other than a spark/residual gunpowder?

hahaha this must be a joke you know being sarcastic
Seriously no one would question gun smoke, or would they?

reply to post by alaskan

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Hi Alaskan,

I'm a person that would question what it is that is coming out of the gun after it has been fired. I'm a scientist, and I see a round off-white perfect sphere coming out of the gun at a much, much slower motion.

Not only that, I see it is not burning and there are no flames to make it disappear as some are suggesting.

So.... who else wants to make a suggestion that has something to it besides their foolish notion that it is on fire, or is burning? Because anyone can look at it and see it is not on fire and it is not burning and yet it disappears.

I've fired untold amounts of ammo, thousands of rounds in a day, day after day, and I've never seen anything like that. I've also loaded untold amounts of ammunition so I'm very familiar with guns and ammunition.

Now... I'd like to hear from someone that is really, really looking closely at that ball coming out of the end of that gun. I'd like to see someone still frame it, and blow it up huge and post different photos of it here on ATS. I'd like to see photos of it while it is disappearing in particular to see what is occurring. Anybody here with enough knowledge of how to bring those photos into play so that we can all see what is really happening?

I'd also like to know if it is forming near the end of the gun or not. All of the gases have escaped, mainly because it is a revolver and there is plenty of space between the cylinder and the barrel to let all of the gases escape, and we can see in slow motion that the gases escaped from the barrel and from the areas around the cylinder. Nice big photos of this ball would be appreciated.

Thanks for your help people, but I'm looking for the real answer, not just some guesses that don't even come close.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by RussianScientists]

reply to post by RussianScientists

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You don't see it at the range because it burns faster then you can see with the naked eye.

The gunsmoke is gun powder that has burned off, the ball is a very small amount of residual gunpowder that didn't explode on impact and burns out slower for one reason or another. It doesn't happen all the time.

If you watch gunpowder get set on fire you will notice that it glows, like a hot piece of iron.

If gunpowder produced a flame then each time you fired you would get a flame jumping out of the chamber each time you fired. Instead you get a quick flash.

reply to post by jd140

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That quick flash as you call it, is the flame. I'm fully aware of what many guns look like when they are fired in the day and in the night. In the night the bigger rifles have a flame that is incredible, protruding a foot or more in front of the gun, being larger than a foot in diameter.

Its not burning like a flake of powder would burn, it just evaporates.

Thanks my friend.

It is unburned powder burning up the rest of the way. The pistol in that video is a black powder pistol. Black powder guns are notorious for not efficiently burning all of the powder. Their know habit of not burning all of the powder prior to the projectile exiting the barrel has almost cost Oklahoma it's black powder season a couple of different years due to fire danger and drought conditions.

Fire a shotgun at lowlight using a birdshot load. It will do the same thing and be very visible. It almost appears as sparks coming from the barrel but really it is just powder completing it's burn cycle.

reply to post by LeaderOfProgress

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Hi Leader of Progress,

I still don't believe it is powder burning. Call me stubborn, but I still see no flame, I see a round ball evaporating. I'd like to see someone enhance some still photos of that footage and blow it up to a tremedous size so that we can look at it closer.

This world is a strange world and there are many phenomenons that still exist for us to discover, and there is the slight possibility that this could be some phenomenon that has been over looked.

How about we google/youtube slow-motion or high speed footage of gunshots and compare?

The temp of the burn determines the color and speed of ignition along with the size of the particle can determine the flame size if any.

Perfect example here is a sparkler in slomo. Has some flame has yellow orange and white dot's. Pretty much the same principle and shows that a white dot can be an incinerated particle.

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I never heard of flame suppressors have you?

I have heard of flash suppressors though.

You are technically correct that a flash is the flame, but it doesn't burn like a flame would. That is why the small amount of gunpowder that video looks as if it is glowing right before it evaporates into nothing.

I have told you what it is. For a scientist you are pretty quick to dismiss my fact.

I believe it to be only gun smoke.

reply to post by jd140

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Hi JD 140,

I'm not quick to dismiss your idea, I'm quick to make sure what is real, and what is a guess. There is a difference "sometimes" in taking an educated guess about something, and zeroing in on something to prove it one way or another. I for one hope most or all of you are correct, but I still want scientific proof of what this is.

This could be something like triboluminescence that takes place in water, but it could be the counter product in air instead of water. Rate of Vibration determines the color.

I've made many great discoveries over the years, and made lots of money off of those discoveries, and a whole lot more money is still to come, so I think I will just keep on looking into this subject until my mind is fully satisified that there is nothing of importance to it.

Thanks JD 140.

reply to post by FormerlyConfused

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Hi Formerly Confused,


You might be right, but I'm bull headed on this one, until someone can capture those frames and blow them up so that we can really see what it is.

Thanks my friend.

reply to post by Darthorious

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Hi Darthorious,

I can easily see where you are coming from, but I want to make sure.... I'm an old stick in the mud sometimes.

Thanks my friend,

reply to post by RussianScientists

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Then go out and spend lots of money to prove that this is indeed just a bit of gunpowder.

Or accept common sense and agree that it is just a bit of slow burning gunpowder. I know it is hard as alot of very smart people (you maybe or may not be in this category) lack common sense. It is a rarity that the two go hand in hand.

reply to post by alaskan

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Hi Alaskan,

Nice to hear from you again. I stopped the video several times and looked at it, all I can see is an off-white sphere. I'd like to see that sphere blown up the moment that we see it, a few times as its traveling, and a few times while it is evaporating.

Where in Alaska do you live Alaskan?

Stay warm my friend.

I'm in fairbanks. It's been getting around 80 degrees here lately, the only problem is the heat and mosquitoes.