Mysterious White ball appears after a hand gun is shot, page 1
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 01:18 AM by RussianScientists
reply to post by alaskan



Hi Alaskan,

I'm a person that would question what it is that is coming out of the gun after it has been fired. I'm a scientist, and I see a round off-white perfect sphere coming out of the gun at a much, much slower motion.

Not only that, I see it is not burning and there are no flames to make it disappear as some are suggesting.

So.... who else wants to make a suggestion that has something to it besides their foolish notion that it is on fire, or is burning? Because anyone can look at it and see it is not on fire and it is not burning and yet it disappears.

I've fired untold amounts of ammo, thousands of rounds in a day, day after day, and I've never seen anything like that. I've also loaded untold amounts of ammunition so I'm very familiar with guns and ammunition.

Now... I'd like to hear from someone that is really, really looking closely at that ball coming out of the end of that gun. I'd like to see someone still frame it, and blow it up huge and post different photos of it here on ATS. I'd like to see photos of it while it is disappearing in particular to see what is occurring. Anybody here with enough knowledge of how to bring those photos into play so that we can all see what is really happening?

I'd also like to know if it is forming near the end of the gun or not. All of the gases have escaped, mainly because it is a revolver and there is plenty of space between the cylinder and the barrel to let all of the gases escape, and we can see in slow motion that the gases escaped from the barrel and from the areas around the cylinder. Nice big photos of this ball would be appreciated.

Thanks for your help people, but I'm looking for the real answer, not just some guesses that don't even come close.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by RussianScientists]


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 01:32 AM by jd140
reply to post by RussianScientists



You don't see it at the range because it burns faster then you can see with the naked eye.

The gunsmoke is gun powder that has burned off, the ball is a very small amount of residual gunpowder that didn't explode on impact and burns out slower for one reason or another. It doesn't happen all the time.

If you watch gunpowder get set on fire you will notice that it glows, like a hot piece of iron.

If gunpowder produced a flame then each time you fired you would get a flame jumping out of the chamber each time you fired. Instead you get a quick flash.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 02:09 AM by RussianScientists
reply to post by jd140



That quick flash as you call it, is the flame. I'm fully aware of what many guns look like when they are fired in the day and in the night. In the night the bigger rifles have a flame that is incredible, protruding a foot or more in front of the gun, being larger than a foot in diameter.

Its not burning like a flake of powder would burn, it just evaporates.

Thanks my friend.





reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 11:47 AM by RussianScientists
reply to post by LeaderOfProgress



Hi Leader of Progress,

I still don't believe it is powder burning. Call me stubborn, but I still see no flame, I see a round ball evaporating. I'd like to see someone enhance some still photos of that footage and blow it up to a tremedous size so that we can look at it closer.

This world is a strange world and there are many phenomenons that still exist for us to discover, and there is the slight possibility that this could be some phenomenon that has been over looked.




reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 03:18 PM by jd140
Originally posted by RussianScientists
reply to
post by jd140



That quick flash as you call it, is the flame. I'm fully aware of what many guns look like when they are fired in the day and in the night. In the night the bigger rifles have a flame that is incredible, protruding a foot or more in front of the gun, being larger than a foot in diameter.

Its not burning like a flake of powder would burn, it just evaporates.

Thanks my friend.



I never heard of flame suppressors have you?

I have heard of flash suppressors though.

You are technically correct that a flash is the flame, but it doesn't burn like a flame would. That is why the small amount of gunpowder that video looks as if it is glowing right before it evaporates into nothing.

I have told you what it is. For a scientist you are pretty quick to dismiss my fact.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 04:30 PM by RussianScientists
reply to post by jd140



Hi JD 140,

I'm not quick to dismiss your idea, I'm quick to make sure what is real, and what is a guess. There is a difference "sometimes" in taking an educated guess about something, and zeroing in on something to prove it one way or another. I for one hope most or all of you are correct, but I still want scientific proof of what this is.

This could be something like triboluminescence that takes place in water, but it could be the counter product in air instead of water. Rate of Vibration determines the color.

I've made many great discoveries over the years, and made lots of money off of those discoveries, and a whole lot more money is still to come, so I think I will just keep on looking into this subject until my mind is fully satisified that there is nothing of importance to it.

Thanks JD 140.






reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 04:31 PM by RussianScientists
reply to post by FormerlyConfused



Hi Formerly Confused,


You might be right, but I'm bull headed on this one, until someone can capture those frames and blow them up so that we can really see what it is.

Thanks my friend.




reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 04:33 PM by RussianScientists
reply to post by Darthorious



Hi Darthorious,

I can easily see where you are coming from, but I want to make sure.... I'm an old stick in the mud sometimes.

Thanks my friend,




reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 04:35 PM by jd140
reply to post by RussianScientists



Then go out and spend lots of money to prove that this is indeed just a bit of gunpowder.

Or accept common sense and agree that it is just a bit of slow burning gunpowder. I know it is hard as alot of very smart people (you maybe or may not be in this category) lack common sense. It is a rarity that the two go hand in hand.


reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 04:36 PM by RussianScientists
reply to post by alaskan



Hi Alaskan,

Nice to hear from you again. I stopped the video several times and looked at it, all I can see is an off-white sphere. I'd like to see that sphere blown up the moment that we see it, a few times as its traveling, and a few times while it is evaporating.

Where in Alaska do you live Alaskan?

Stay warm my friend.


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