Originally posted by wonderworld
We will be past all the economic bubble bursts so not to worry about that anymore. Crime will be rampant, Chaos everywhere.
There may be a grand finale waiting for the financial crisis most
are not counting on.
Warren Buffet discusses 100's of Trillions in derivatives set to
It is beneficial to buy an Army survival manual or Boy Scout handbook.
I'd say get the info off the web for free, and put it in a double gallon
ziplock bag and like troops in the field sometimes do put it in a
large ammo can with some dessicant if you can.
US Army survival manual
SAS survival guide
Save as much money as you can to buy things that are not going to be
readily available or easily produced.
Bugout bag, nice tools like a good knife, folding saw, snare wire,
sharpening tools, ammo, reloading items, first aid kit, etc etc
Food can be grown, get some sealed heirloom seed kits, and store
them correctly. Use snares, jug lines for fish, make shift traps,
and get edible wild plant guides and medicinal plant guides with pix.
Water filters will wear out after awhile and you can cheaply filter
Improvised Water Filter
Leave your laptop and cell phones home they can be tracked by GPS, also new tires have RFID chips embedded in the sidewalls. They only ask your name
for the warranty.
RFID range is actually fairly short, your cell phone can have you tracked
thru the cell tower system. If you still want to bring it with you just
in case just pull the battery out of it, and do not use it within miles of
your home base or camp. Walk a few miles use it, and then get the
hell out of there. It is better off you do not use it at all and it is likely
if their is a disaster the phone lines will roll over to priority calls only
that are for government efforts. Your laptop can be tracked if it is
modern and has the anti theft device onboard, or you go online in
Find an alternate shelter, a cave, RV, Camper, 4 season tent or make your own with tarps and tie downs. Buy a spare tarp. You can also learn to make a
Teepee or lean-to shelter.
Have a primary and secondary bug out route, and
have a bug out vehicle and perhaps a bike as a back up.
Don't spend money on RV's or other high profile items that
scream, I got lots of money come rob me !
If you look poor, they will think you are poor, and that can
get you ignored which may be a blessing if things get real bad.
If you think they will be rounding ppl up and have satellite recon at
their disposal you will need to get something between you and the sky.
It is not as extensive as shown in the "enemy of the state", but it is not
too damn far off from that.
The key things are Water, Shelter, Food, and Self Defense, and out of
sight is out of mind and the cities will not be safe.
Those who don’t own guns buy a Bow and LOTS of arrows, slingshots, with extra bands, baseball bat, mace, stun gun, whatever you can afford for
protection against crime and to hunt small game. Fishing accessories will be handy.
Lighting, get a wind up solar flashlight for 25 .00, candles, multi fuel lanterns, waterproof matches or make your own by dipping in wax.
Cooking, use a multi fuel camp stove or use fire. Make pots using coffee cans with wire handles, fire starters are inexpensive and can easily be
broken for several uses, many BIC lighters, the cheap ones wont hold up, lots of matches, build a tripod to hang your pots over the fire.
Heat, put a candle in a small can it will emit warmth, or buy hand warmers
If you can get an affordable long gun do it. A bow is great for long term,
but if you go up against ppl with guns, your gonna need a gun and you
need to use hard cover, reduce your profile, and practice with your weapon.
I recommend a .308 gun due to the decent range, if you just cannot
shoot worth a damn get a 12ga. pump.
If you can't shoot a long gun well, your likely gonna have trouble
with that bow too.
For fishing do the tricks that jug fishers use on youtube, it works.
Crazy funny jug fishing maniacs
This method I am now mentioning is illegal except in survival situations,
it was used during the great depression. Ppl would use crank telephones
to shock the fish to the surface, in modern times you can use an
insulation tester called a megger or make an equivalent.
A wind up solar light is good, also look for one that has the emergency
radio bands that you can listen too for an idea of what is going on.
Forget lanterns, forget fuel, once it is gone, its gone and if shot while
your carrying it pretty much assures your death.
Use things like a magnifying lense to start a fire, or fire steel,
or learn to make a fire bow. Some aluminum foil formed into
a parabola will catch lint, leaves, paper and other like items on fire
if directed at the sun correctly.
Doubt the power of the sun ?
Think long term, think travel as light as possible.
Steel and iron rusts and aluminum has been linked to ALZ and other
issues, and so I only use stainless steel or titanium cookware.
Stainless steel is affordable, titanium is not.
For heat you can do like bums do and stuff things between the layers
of clothing, and trashbags full of dry leaves act like insulation and
cost you nothing. Carry heavy duty trashbags as disposible panchos
and for water proofing a makeshift lean-to. Stacked deeply
a double or triple sided lean-to will hide your heat signature from the air.
Avoid hypothermia and heat stroke, dress in layers, add or remove them as necessary, always carry extra socks and extra pair of hiking boots.
It itches like hell but wool will keep you warm even when it is wet.
If you are in a high heat area like desert southwest consider traveling
by night and trying to get below ground by day as it is 59 degrees
3 feet down all year round.
Money, in the event money still has value carry small bills and change. A few bars of silver is inexpensive and can bribe the border guards or be used
Bartering, this may be dangerous. You don’t want anyone to know what you have. If you must barter some handy items are, (dollar store items), bar
soap, deodorant, twine, rope, razors, hair brush, mirror, hand sanitizer, bags of hard candy,etc. It’s funny the things you will miss when you
don’t have them.
Til things stabilize I'd not be known to have anything and the border
guards are going to be monitored, and fearful of being turned in by
each other and thus bribery may not work if things are severe enough.
Once the movie "The Road" comes out watch that for an idea of
what it could be like if the worst part of ppl comes to the surface.
Surveillance will be widespread and unforgiving.
Your links you listed are good, and I offer SurvivalBlog as well.
I do not consider myself a true expert, just somewhat experienced.
Good Luck to you all !
[edit on 14-6-2009 by Ex_MislTech]